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Julian's house (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 20:46
Henry Vanderglas was outstanding on Sunday - the best individual display of the season IMO.

How the hell does Liam Middleton pick a back row??

Grieve: captain and huge player for us
Ovens: dynamic and one of the most consistent players
Vanderglas: Aside from Otto, looks the most individually gifted player we have
Merriman: the best back rower we have

Throw Pennycook, Montsgu and Mama in the mix and you have a real selection dilemma.

Not to mention that Harris-Wright, arguably our strongest hooker, is back in the next couple of weeks. Good times.

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Gray_Lensman (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 21:18
VEry arguably our best hooker. We've seen so little of him in a Bristol shirt that it's hard to form a judgement or compare him with the more regular incumbents. 3 or 4 appearances.

Agree with you about the backrow selection issues.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/02/2012 21:21 by Gray_Lensman.

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Rinkadink (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 22:34
Still, nice problem to have (in a way).

Really pleased with Vanderglas' signing, seems to be giving his all for us. Does anyone know if he has a nickname yet?

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brisfromafar (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 23:03
Vanderclass. I thought he looked good on his first showing for us as well.

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Znoober (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 23:50
If it helps, a group of us in the Blackthorn End have been calling him Iceman...

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Seedub (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 07:22
We use Skippy

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Target (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 09:35
The Generator. (Think back to school physics) (Sm85)

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Agent Dagnamit (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 10:43
Would certainly be nice if Ovens was part of the backrow dilemna next season, but I have my doubts. Merriman not cetain to be here either unfortunately.

And what are we going to do when Ben Morgan comes home?

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alcoholic nli (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 11:37
Morgan's already going to Glos isn't he?

I hope Merriman is going to stay.
He's stuck with us through the bad times, universally loved by the supporters and now we are secure financially we could give hime the contract he deserves?

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Slaphead (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 12:06
Just like to say that I think that Vanderglas looks like real class athlete. Isn't he only contracted to the end of the season though? If so, sign him up now please.

Spoke to him briefly after the Roth game - a really good bloke too. I love the way he has rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in.

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Hercules Spoons (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 12:39
I agree Vanderglas is a prize signing and I'd hope we can keep him here.
With his speed and agility I'm surprised we haven't played him at openside, whilst Merriman is injured

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Murgatroyd (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 13:47
Regarding Ovens, is one of the reasons he's delaying his 'Bris v Bath' contract decision because he's not sure of a starting spot at either club?

To compete in the Prem, we need a specialist 8. If Grieve and Vanderglas don't fall into that category, that would make them a 6 (don't really see Vanderglas as a 7, especially not with Red and Merriman in the squad). Then it's Ovens v Grieve v Vanderglas for that 6 shirt. Maybe Ovens is concerned he won't win that battle against the club captain and a player in great form.

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Bris Supporter @ Work (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 14:55
I was informed recently that Merriman was very likely to be staying!

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1908 (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 15:38
If Vanderglas was the number 6 then you have a real diamond there.He caused us no end of bother.

As a matter of interest what's he like dogging it out on a mud bath in the pouring rain? He's obviously outstanding on firm surfaces.By the looks of him he is the sort of player who just givesw 100% whenever he is on the pitch.

Looking forward to seeing him again in the final when the Pirates and Briss get it on again.

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elegia (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 17:13
that was only his third appearance 1908, so can't really say yet!

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Graham_U (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 18:23
Skippee's best performance by some way, although he seems to lend his teflon hands from last week to Will. I thought he played a lot like Ovens in style. Although Dan is playing well I really want to see Skippy given a run at 8, was surprised that Grives played there when he came on.


C'mon Bris,,file=399.jpg

Stand out in a crowd, wear the Hoops!

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Gray_Lensman (IP Logged)
22 February, 2012 09:04
And there Graham , is the point we've both made before. The desire to play Grieve means that we try to slot him in at 8 when this is undoubtedly not his true position. or he needs a lot of specialist coaching (Dean Richards?!). It means to me that the coaches know he's good, he's captain and has to play when fit. The fact that it's not where he ought to play makes me think that they believe other players are better at 6 or 7. Frankly I thinks he's a 6 and has to duke it out for that spot.

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Rich. (IP Logged)
22 February, 2012 10:32
I think new players often make mistakes (including dropping the ball) by being too keen and eager to impress. Let's not brand him as teflon hands quite yet - I suspect it was just case of over-eagerness to smash into a player or surge into space before he really had the ball under control. He is going to be a diamond IMO.

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alcoholic (IP Logged)
22 February, 2012 11:29
Give him time to settle in, he's only been here a month.

It's a horrible way to think, but I'm working on the basis that Josh Ovens is a Bath player, and will probably be a Bath player next season.
So whichever league we are in, we have Grieve & Merriman as 6 & 7. If Vanderglas & Pennycook sign on for next season then I can't see any problem with our flankers. Coupled with Mama getting ever better. Very competition, keeping all 4 players honest and playing at their best as they know there is someone waiting behind them.

Regarding the captain, it's the way he leads the team that merits his inclusion. Grieve is a good 6 & a good 8, but not quite Ovens or Monty. But can you really leave him out if he can inspire the team etc?

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teflonHead (IP Logged)
22 February, 2012 15:47
Graham_U sounds more likely to have a teflon head with comments like that about Mr Vanderglas, rather than Henry's hands.

If you had bothered to look into his past you would see that he comes from the Aussie 7's squad, where, not surprisingly you need fantastic handling skills.

You will be eating your words very soon I should imagine ha ha

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