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NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
shhandy (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 22:40
Now if NFL played like this more often I might even watch it. @Eatsleeprugby

One thing I've often wondered is why is not the torpedo pass used as a surprise tactic occasionally to switch play radically? Anyone ever seen it used?

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Bristol Ian (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 22:47
Have you seen this before (from our very own NFL fan)?

Youtube



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Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
inatthebreakdown (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 07:05
Presumably it's never used because of how difficult it is to throw straight for that distance. Not to mention the reasonable chance of an interception?

 
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robtheh (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 07:17

 
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shhandy (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 07:57
Love that Steve Luatua footage, and an impressive length on the throw. It was never going to be straight though!

 
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Jimeno (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 09:22
Watching Hurrell and Pisi running interference for Protheroe would be fun too.

 
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Rinkadink (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 09:29
Quote:
shhandy
Now if NFL played like this more often I might even watch it. @Eatsleeprugby
One thing I've often wondered is why is not the torpedo pass used as a surprise tactic occasionally to switch play radically? Anyone ever seen it used?

I don't understand why they don't use multiple passing plays/offloads more often in the NFL. Any fans know?

Would love to see what a union or league coach could do over there with legal blockers and the like with continuous set piece play.

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Earlsbris (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 10:14
They call such passing a ‘lateral’. Such passing is used in college football a reasonable amount but not generally in the NFL due to risk/reward. Players have a very specific skill set, and most aren’t used to handling, which combined with the fact that a lot of the big lads have their hands/fingers taped to avoid breaking them leads to a risk of fumbles in a game where ‘keep ball’ is the all important thing, which coaches don’t see as acceptable.

Also the ayers are geared to short bursts of power rather than continuous cardio

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Standardprocedure (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 10:25
was thinking the same rinky. no knock-ons and plenty of blockers should make it much easier

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
SparkyBris (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 12:29
Gareth Rees used to do this type of throw every now and then.

I think the reason why it isn't used so much is that the degree of error is too large. Unless you've got someone throwing with pinpoint accuracy, then you have to ensure the ball is going backwards. Given the length of time the ball will be in the air and travelling towards the defending try line, there is too much risk of interception and/or losing territory.



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Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Peter D (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 12:50
Plus it's a lot harder (although not impossible) to do that with a rugby ball than with an American Football.

 
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Hercules Spoons (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 12:55
Barf used to have an American (Canadian?) forward by name of Dan Lyle, who I saw use an American football pass during a passage of play - it went past two or three others to reach the winger.
Very effective.

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Bris nut (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 13:20
Many years ago when I were a lad Bris
played the American Eagles ( national team at the time I think) and one of their halfbacks used the same NFL torpedo pass playing straight across the pitch to their winger.
The first time people were dumbfounded "is that allowed?"
"That's not rugby " being muttered. The second time I remembered thinking why doesn't every side do this ?
The third time the boys had worked it out and as the ball arrived to the winger he was completely taken out by a Bris player (Alan Morley ?). Never tried it again.
As I say I was only a kid. Anybody even older got recollections of it ?

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Gray_Lensman (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 13:37
I know I saw it done at the Memorial Ground on the 22 at the Clubhouse end and I think it was the Eagles. The ball went across the width of the pitch. Stumped everyone.

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Jim H (IP Logged)
04 October, 2017 16:56
Quote:
Hercules Spoons
Barf used to have an American (Canadian?) forward by name of Dan Lyle, who I saw use an American football pass during a passage of play - it went past two or three others to reach the winger.
Very effective.

American, though I think he's qualified for residency now.

 
Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Graham_U (IP Logged)
05 October, 2017 12:10
Pretty sure Jason Keyter (US international winger that played for us although I think he was US through his parent) did at least once at the Mem.



Graham

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Re: NFL Match Finishes with Rugby Flourish
Agent Dagnamit (IP Logged)
05 October, 2017 15:33
That clip shows why it isn't done that often! The risk of a turnover is too big - turnovers being one of the strongest predictors of win/loose in the NFL.

You see it used on kick offs occasionally, when the receiver isn't under any pressure.


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