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Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
Rich. (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 06:53
I posted this on Wendyball thread and so if anyone does know the answer they may not have read it there so -

In the 2nd test the TMO seemed to be used on two occasions where I'm not used to seeing them used. The last was to check if Hughes had knocked the ball out of de Klerk's hands. I thought the TMO was used only for foul play or any infringement (forward pass, off side foul play etc) linked to a try being scored (though not going back more than 2 phases).

If they could have checked that Hughes thing then what's to stop at each break in play the ref going back to last ruck to see if anyone was offside?

I've since checked the TMO rules on World Rugby site and there is nothing at all there to suggest to me that it should have been used for this purpose of on Saturday

Anyone in the know or any thoughts?

Re: Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
Rich. (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 07:24
Pasted from world Rugby site (none of which link to the Hughes incident - for which he was yellow carded) - I can't believe they would count tapping the ball out of the scrum half's hand as being Foul Play. But maybe they do but it's not dangerous and so why different than deliberately off-side (excluding when checked in relation to a try being scored or not being scored)

A match organiser may appoint a television match official (TMO), who uses technological devices to clarify situations relating to:
The grounding of the ball in in-goal.
Touch or touch-in-goal in the act of grounding the ball or the ball being made dead.
Where there is doubt as to whether a kick at goal has been successful.
Where match officials believe an infringement may have occurred in the playing area leading to a try or preventing a try.
Foul play, including sanctions.

Re: Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
Jimeno (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 07:46
Law 9 - Foul Play

4, A player must not intentionally prevent an opponent from having the opportunity to play the ball, other than by competing for possession.

Does that cover it?

Also (I don't have a recording of the match so I can't check) but is it possible that the TMO called the ref's attention to the incident so the ref called penalty and the TV replay was for our - the spectators - benefit rather than part of the sanction process?

Re: Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
Rich. (IP Logged)
20 June, 2018 07:58
Cheers Jimeno, yes that seems to cover it. No he did ask TMO for confirmation Hughes had done it - so TMO involved but, as per your find, that was right because it was foul play. I'll look at that list because as that is what else is?

Re: Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
Graham_U (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 12:29
Sounds about the same as deliberate knock on that they check all the time Rich. Interestingly list they have in that section Jimeno, well worth a look for anyone interested.


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Re: Strange use of TMO during SA v English game
ouch!_that_hurts (IP Logged)
21 June, 2018 12:59
I haven't seen the match or the incident but could it have been that he saw the offence but couldn't identify the culprit without the TMO's help?

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