Quote:No one was punished for performing poorly of late.
maybe we cant play for 90 mins nbecause the same guys are playing 80mins week in week out. Perhaps they're knackered.
Lack fo changes was a major selection error in my view. No one was punished for performing poorly of late. No one from outside the squad has had the chance to acquire match fitness since there havent been any jets games either. And the side doesnt neccessarily represent the best we have given evidence from the likes of addison, Tuculet, Auvaa etc earlier in the season. The usual positive and negative incentives dont seem to be in operation at Sale, and the result seems to be complacenty and unrest. Not totally surprising since there seem to be clear favourites and many who can reasonably claim to be unfairly denied opportunity.
Very disappointing result and performance all round this one.
Don't forget it's Year Zero. We must ignore what happened last year and we must look forward (?) to Year One. I wonder, however, in Year One if we can look back to Year Zero.
You can't criticise Rose because he comes to Stockport and does a few talks!!
Presumably there were a few yellows?
The players aren't good enough yet. MikeGC hits the nail on the head. I think that is pretty clear from what I have seen this season. Though we are getting better, and hopefully moving in the right direction. Also important to have more squad stability next season. Having the same players around with a few additions will help.
Macleod was awful, including one penalty which he should have put over - restarts too long, touch kicking too conservative no threat or imagination with ball in hand.
Lots of endeavour from Sam and Leota but no real cutting edge from the backs as a unit
I'd sya there are several clubs in the league who are worse on and off the pitch than Sale.
But I cant think of any that disappoint their fans and let themselves down, on and off the field, as regularly as Sale do. We are a club in constant crisis and seem incapable of getting off that particular ride.
We can all see the talent. This season we can also see the desire. But still the total output is less than the sum of the parts. Our pack got stuffed for 40 mins by the nailed on relegation candidates. Our pack, remember, has 2 british lions, an Irish international, an Scottish one, another on the bench. Still we cant get a decent lineout or maintain pressure.
I's sorry, we shouldnt have to wait for next season for some modicum of success. We've been good enough to achieve something this year. But we've let ourselves down week in week out with crass errors, inconsistency and poor tactical appreciation. At times we look schoolboy next to other teams in the league, who at least manage to play to their potential most weeks.
Quote:Yes I know it has been disappointing but if we are realistic this season has been our best since we won the GP...and it's not over yet.
p 22 w 14, drawn 0,lost 8. points f481 a374 - pd 107, tb 4, lb 3 points63
22 13 0 9 447 410 37 5 5 61
Friday was my low point as a Sale fan. That's how bad the feeling was at the end. I was stood on the covered terrace and in the first half we had 3 chances and we scored 3 tries. It felt like the Sale that started the season. Nothing fancy, some big carries from Sheridan, precise passing and just playing basic Rugby to gain territory. 2 of the tries were actually pretty good, Miller's was outstanding and was the reason I couldn't get my head around the second half performance. For about a 10 minute spell we were passing like the Harlem Globetrotters.
At half time I heard the Newcastle fans slagging them off and saying Gopperth is the reason they're losing.
I expected the bonus point to be wrapped up but as time went on it became clear that only one side would win it. Absolutely ridiculous lack of discipline cost us once more.
It was horrible standing there. Some older women behind us screaming Falcons in the strangest accent ever. It felt like the word had about 10 syllables as it was going on that long. Constant renditions of the Blaydon Races and other songs too, like my friend said - the crowd won them that game. It was deafening at one point but not in a good way. I put my hood over my head at the end as I just couldn't take being beaten like that.
Interesting though with the good atmosphere yet they never once sing a song with Newcastle in the name. Just going back to the whole Sale name change thing. I imagine most Newcastle fans are from a wide spread over the North East but it seems they only know them as the Falcons. Change them to the Falcons, make them a super northern club and leave us as Sale. We don't deserve anything super after that performance.
Quote:DaveAitchQuote:Yes I know it has been disappointing but if we are realistic this season has been our best since we won the GP...and it's not over yet.
...presumably excluding the 5th place in 2007/8p 22 w 14, drawn 0,lost 8. points f481 a374 - pd 107, tb 4, lb 3 points63
and the 5th place in 2008/922 13 0 9 447 410 37 5 5 61
RE Olyy's team the only problem with playing Auva'a is that he won't be with us next season so don't see the point in playing him.
I wasn't at the game but listened intentley to the commentary which seemed well balanced enough - What strikes me is the ridiculous comments from people that we do not have good enough players and that is why we lost the game.
for those who do not know... rugby games generally end up with a losing team and a winning team - some times its a draw, the team you support isn't gauranteed a win, they have to battle for it. Falcons battled harder and won the game. Simple. Also, no matter how a team is built and strengthened, every other team is doing exactly the same, so there is parity regardless of who is brought in.
We have a good set of players some of whom have been playing together for nearly 2/3rds of a season. The coach has been sacked so there was obviously a problem for the entire season not just in the last 3 games, Dimes has changed roles and now they are trying to regain th position we were in when winning well. It will take time.
Sharks are 7th in the table. Whichever way you view it that is pretty damn good.
Maybe you negative posters would prefer a relegation battle to whinge and moan and complain endlessly about. Why not get behind the team instead of putting them down??
Tries for: conceded: difference: Leicester Tigers 59 40 +19 Harlequins 44 26 +18 Northampton Saints 42 23 +19 Gloucester 38 37 + 1 Sale Sharks 38 43 - 5 London Irish 35 38 - 3 Saracens 30 25 + 5 Exeter 30 30 0 Bath 29 25 + 4 London Wasps 27 36 - 9 Newcastle Falcons 22 54 -32 Worcester 17 34 -17
"surprised that next in the worst defence stats from that table are Leicester!"
Barend, yes, it surprised me too. I don't know (because I haven't looked in detail, but I wonder if they Leicester conceded quite a few before the WC players got back into the fray.
I did note though that Tigger's statistics would appear to be before last weekend's games. Certainly they are for the few I checked. If the last game is added in Sale's "tries for", expressed as "average per game" increases to 2, as does Gloucester's. Munster have stayed the same in terms of tries scored, after just three O'Gara penalties in defeat to Leinster. So, in the tries for column Sale are doing better one game on.
Gloucester 38 37 + 1 Sale Sharks 38 43 - 5 London Irish 35 38 - 3 Exeter 30 30 0 Bath 29 25 + 4