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Quote:That was my first thought: If we're trying to sign someone who is looking to leave their club to be first choice elsewhere then the speculation of signing someone else won't help the dealHaleShark
It doesn't say that we won't sign them and would be a coup if we did but considering the out of character statement I would speculate they won't come the A.J.Bell. Maybe the statement was to reassure players who we are pursuing to sign for us.
Quote:stevene
Couple of observations:
O'Connor. Nothing was ever going to be signed and sealed until after the LNR has ruled re his cocaine use. If he is suspended for any length then that may complicate the deal. Equally sale may want to pursue alternatives in the event of a long ban.
De Klerk. He is still in contract for more than 12 months. straeuli has already gone on record re his displeasure re de Klerks agent. Sale could be accused of tapping up another player. Therefore until that is worked out nothing will be signed and sealed. Equally any further bad PR re tapping up de Klerk won't help the solomona mediation.
fwiw I think fissler is probably on the money that deals are done with the agents. But they are done in principle only. The statement is, to me, worded to try and avoid ruling out signing them, it merely states they haven't already signed. They also state dimes hasn't spoken to the players. Doesn't mention their representatives. It also doesn't rule them out as potential signings from the potential new players.
I must say whilst fissler isn't always right his strike rate is pretty good. Clearly he gets the majority of his gossip from agencies. His twitter profile is a bit victor meldrew/ ukip love child but what do you expect from a millwall fan? All those accusing him of being full of BS because the club has made a statement need to check our DoR's factual accuracy re expectation and subsequent events. Think dimes has a trump level accuracy rate in that regard. Time will tell.
Quote:Diamond said, " I have not spoken to either player and don't know where the speculation has come from ...
Quote:H's D
Isn't that tantamount to calling Dimes a Politician (rather than a politician)?
Will the new moderators permit that sort of crass insult!?
Quote:Conwy Shark
Has it it come to pass that a remark can't be seen for what it is, humorous, or are people now so sensitive that they take offence at anything that doesn't correspond with their own point of view ?.
Quote:yukonQuote:Conwy Shark
Has it it come to pass that a remark can't be seen for what it is, humorous, or are people now so sensitive that they take offence at anything that doesn't correspond with their own point of view ?.
Who's offended on this thread? It's nothing but good natured, tongue in cheek stuff as far as I can tell
Quote:No matter what you say, or how you say it, someone somewhere will deliberately go out of their way to be offended.
Quote:iBozz
As I have pointed out before, the original statement says Diamond said, " I have not spoken to either player ..."
It emphatically does not say that the Club or anyone else has not spoken to anyone.
A theasurus also defines spoken as verbal, oral, vocal, viva voce, uttered, said, stated - it seems not to cover written communication.
Surely we have all had repeated experience of PR of all forms which teach us not to read the lines but to read between the lines?
I'm sure that Dimes' statement was perfectly correct and that he had not spoken to the gentlemen concerened.
Quote:Hobb5y
Firstly, very happy with the signing of JOC and Faf. Really good signings and hopefully good for PR and the team.
But why was this statement ever needed?
Quote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
Quote:H's Dad...
Dirty Linen is best kept out of sight...There but for the grace of circumstance...?
Sale and every other club takes advantage of signing and retaining (young) players for far less than they are really worth just as readily as any R.L. team.
I doubt we would have done much different from Castleford were financial clout and circumstances reversed.
Whilst Solomona is fantastic in attack, his defense needs considerable attention before he realizes his full potential. His value is contentious depending on priorities.
Quote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
Quote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
Quote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
It's an open forum. We are all club supporters. As PAW says, if you don't want to read about what others want to talk about, that is your prerogative. Fact is that the clubs conduct in this matter over a period of time is open to question. We are quite entitled to debate it, for better or for worse. Does not mean we are not backing the players or taking swipes at the club. Suggest you might get off your 'high horse and simply ignore the thread if you don't like It!
Quote:yukonQuote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
It's an open forum. We are all club supporters. As PAW says, if you don't want to read about what others want to talk about, that is your prerogative. Fact is that the clubs conduct in this matter over a period of time is open to question. We are quite entitled to debate it, for better or for worse. Does not mean we are not backing the players or taking swipes at the club. Suggest you might get off your 'high horse and simply ignore the thread if you don't like It!
I'm entitled to scrutinise you and your opinion as you are the clubs conduct.
If you can;t see the benefit of the not appearing to tap up players or able to understand the literal nature of that statement then the fault is yours, not Diamond's and not the club's.
Quote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
It's an open forum. We are all club supporters. As PAW says, if you don't want to read about what others want to talk about, that is your prerogative. Fact is that the clubs conduct in this matter over a period of time is open to question. We are quite entitled to debate it, for better or for worse. Does not mean we are not backing the players or taking swipes at the club. Suggest you might get off your 'high horse and simply ignore the thread if you don't like It!
I'm entitled to scrutinise you and your opinion as you are the clubs conduct.
If you can;t see the benefit of the not appearing to tap up players or able to understand the literal nature of that statement then the fault is yours, not Diamond's and not the club's.
You miss my point. I was commenting upon your apparent view that people shouldn't post about 'old' topics, which is clearly nonsense. On an open forum, people can post about any matter subject to the usual caveats of legalities, decency, libel etc. Of course, on this forum, one would reasonably expect posts to be rugby related!
FWIW I am quite clear about the need for the club not to be seen to be tapping up players, if indeed that is what happened. I suspect that we agree about this and the way that the club subsequently handled the matter.
Quote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
It's an open forum. We are all club supporters. As PAW says, if you don't want to read about what others want to talk about, that is your prerogative. Fact is that the clubs conduct in this matter over a period of time is open to question. We are quite entitled to debate it, for better or for worse. Does not mean we are not backing the players or taking swipes at the club. Suggest you might get off your 'high horse and simply ignore the thread if you don't like It!
I'm entitled to scrutinise you and your opinion as you are the clubs conduct.
If you can;t see the benefit of the not appearing to tap up players or able to understand the literal nature of that statement then the fault is yours, not Diamond's and not the club's.
You miss my point. I was commenting upon your apparent view that people shouldn't post about 'old' topics, which is clearly nonsense. On an open forum, people can post about any matter subject to the usual caveats of legalities, decency, libel etc. Of course, on this forum, one would reasonably expect posts to be rugby related!
FWIW I am quite clear about the need for the club not to be seen to be tapping up players, if indeed that is what happened. I suspect that we agree about this and the way that the club subsequently handled the matter.
Quote:Hobb5yQuote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Chris1850Quote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:yukonQuote:Prop at WorkQuote:Why was raking this up ever needed?
A dozen responses in 24 hours suggests it's something that Sale supporters are happy to discuss.
Sale supporters still discuss Edgeley Park, which is equally as pointless
For goodness sake, Yukon, there is a whole TV channel devoted to 'History', is that equally pointless? Last night I watched the excellent documentary on the 1974 Invincibles - pointless! (I did not, however, watch 'Pointless', for obvious reasons).
People talk about what THEY find interesting. You don't HAVE to contribute.
Immeant moving back to Edgeley- pointless, like raking this up. Utter nonsense.
Try backing the players instead of taking swipes at the club/ Dimes
It's an open forum. We are all club supporters. As PAW says, if you don't want to read about what others want to talk about, that is your prerogative. Fact is that the clubs conduct in this matter over a period of time is open to question. We are quite entitled to debate it, for better or for worse. Does not mean we are not backing the players or taking swipes at the club. Suggest you might get off your 'high horse and simply ignore the thread if you don't like It!
I'm entitled to scrutinise you and your opinion as you are the clubs conduct.
If you can;t see the benefit of the not appearing to tap up players or able to understand the literal nature of that statement then the fault is yours, not Diamond's and not the club's.
You miss my point. I was commenting upon your apparent view that people shouldn't post about 'old' topics, which is clearly nonsense. On an open forum, people can post about any matter subject to the usual caveats of legalities, decency, libel etc. Of course, on this forum, one would reasonably expect posts to be rugby related!
FWIW I am quite clear about the need for the club not to be seen to be tapping up players, if indeed that is what happened. I suspect that we agree about this and the way that the club subsequently handled the matter.
Dear Yukon, sorry if you felt this wasn't a valid topic for discussion, I thought it was relevant. No need to insult me or suggest I wanted to stir the pot. I was and am happy about the signings. I am not happy with the way the club handled the PR and struggle to see how the statement does anything but make the club look guilty, I wanted to discuss this issue on the fan forum.