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Dimes on "European Cup stress"
28 July, 2017 17:57
The importance of the franchise avoiding relegation vs. European success:-

Dis mus be da place

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
MikeGC (IP Logged)
28 July, 2017 18:05
Can't find the story but it is blindingly obvious that premiership survival is of paramount importance

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
28 July, 2017 18:21

Sale Sharks director of rugby Steve Diamond says European competition adds extra "stress" to an already intensive Premiership season.

Diamond's side finished bottom of their Champions Cup pool last term, losing five of their six games.

After an inconsistent season, Sale finished 10th in the Premiership, 20 points above the relegation place.

"Our form was good. We lost to Toulon and Saracens and beat Scarlets but it takes its toll," Diamond said.

Speaking to BBC Radio Manchester, he continued: "The problem is that in the domestic league, that's where your bread and butter is. In a competition that has relegation, one thing you can't afford to do as a franchise is get relegated.

"So all your intentions are good in all competitions but you've really got to put the hard graft in and make sure you stay in the league and we did that comfortably."

Despite Sale not finishing in the top four of the Premiership since their title-winning 2005-06 season, Diamond believes he can bring success to the north west.

"A lot of people's ambition is to finish in Europe. Mine isn't to do that, it's to manage to be in the top four [of the Premiership]," he added.

"With the investment that's gone in this year, we've got to see ourselves being a regular top-four side in the next three or four years.

"There's no doubt we can do that. We run a business that doesn't lose any money. The sides that traditionally finish below us lose around 8-9m. We don't lose anything."
Dis mus be da place

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
MartWhit (IP Logged)
28 July, 2017 20:27
its a bit of a binary view. It surely doesnt have to be premiership or Europe?

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
Pappje Shark (IP Logged)
28 July, 2017 20:49
It doesn't, but I guess he's simply stating his priority. His resources will clearly be marshalled towards the Top 4 push rather than taking on too much in Europe. It was fun watching the run to the QFs in the Challenge Cup two season ago, but given the choice of going out in the group stages or making the Top 4, I wonder if many of us would take the latter.

Then in a few years' time, maybe we can tackle both.....

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
MartWhit (IP Logged)
28 July, 2017 20:56
probably right Pappje.

He's clearly signalling he's unwilling to put Sale in a lossmaking position to finance a push on 2 fronts.

That discounts the possibility that playing high quality european rugby is one of the routes wherby players learn quickly how to also win a premiership.

I hope that if/when we next secure a top 6 finish, we then resource a squad for a proper tilt in Europe that doesnt jeopardise our premiership chances.

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
Headington Shark (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 13:17
I think he's actually probably signalling Simon and Ged are unwilling to put Sale in a loss making position. Which is fair enough.

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
MikeGC (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 14:45
Headington Shark
I think he's actually probably signalling Simon and Ged are unwilling to put Sale in a loss making position. Which is fair enough.

Not seen the numbers and quite possibly have missed the brilliant news but since when have Sharks been "in the black" ?

Re: Dimes on "European Cup stress"
MartWhit (IP Logged)
30 July, 2017 16:33
perhaps some judicious rounding in Dimes's figures, both of our position and others losses.

The fact that Sale are 'broadly' breaking even, aligned to the number of long term contracts in place, should give the club solid visibilty to is playing cost base for a few years forward. If they can finally grow the top line more strongly, that hopefully can go straight into further squad investment. Certainly we'll need a bigger and stronger group IF we ever do want to compete in the Premiership and Europe.

The squad has been heavily pruned of fringe players who's less frequent 1st XV appearances could better be replaced and afforded by the recently promoted academy graduates. We're fully committed to running with a lean squad and allowing youngsters to get 1st XV exposure early. Its certainly sustainable, but its also the slower route to the top.

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