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McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
05 December, 2017 13:00
...... which is also my birthday - the same glorious day "Bill" came to EP.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/12/2017 13:00 by Mrs Trellis of North Wales.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
Flumpty (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 14:19
I'm going to go for Sending Off Sufficient, with no further ban.
Good disciplinary record, no malice involved, remorse shown at time etc, etc.

UNLESS, Dimes speaks up for him at the session, in which case he'll get 10 years hard labour in a salt mine.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
05 December, 2017 14:27
.........luxury!



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Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
clutch (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 14:42
Ha ha.

If he gets anything other than that expect a clutch rant. When are they wasting money on this nonsense.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
Olyy (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 14:46
My guess is a one week ban,
That's what Rob Horne got for two yellow cards a few weeks ago.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
buelligansmate (IP Logged)
06 December, 2017 21:09
No ban for Byron!


From the BBC

Meanwhile Sale's Scotland back Byron McGuigan has avoided further sanction after his red card at Worcester.

He was sent off after two yellow cards, the first for a deliberate knock-on and the second for a dangerous tackle.

RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
Flumpty (IP Logged)
06 December, 2017 21:20
Quote:
buelligansmate
No ban for Byron!

From the BBC

Meanwhile Sale's Scotland back Byron McGuigan has avoided further sanction after his red card at Worcester.

He was sent off after two yellow cards, the first for a deliberate knock-on and the second for a dangerous tackle.

RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.

cough, cough, ahem
"I'm going to go for Sending Off Sufficient, with no further ban."

I present to you, Flumpty, the predictor of the future (Sm108)

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
buelligansmate (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 00:03
Quote:
Flumpty
Quote:
buelligansmate
No ban for Byron!

From the BBC

Meanwhile Sale's Scotland back Byron McGuigan has avoided further sanction after his red card at Worcester.

He was sent off after two yellow cards, the first for a deliberate knock-on and the second for a dangerous tackle.

RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.

cough, cough, ahem
"I'm going to go for Sending Off Sufficient, with no further ban."

I present to you, Flumpty, the predictor of the future (Sm108)

Please supply lottery numbers for Friday and Saturday.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
Yareet (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 00:57
Quote:
buelligansmate

Please supply lottery numbers for Friday and Saturday.

That’s easy

43 26 38 15 34 9

Now just work out which lottery they’re for

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
ale shark (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 06:49
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buelligansmate
RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.[/i]

So why did they summon him to appear? Total waste of time and money.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
M5 Shark (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 07:45
Who covered the costs?

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
DaveAitch (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 08:23
Quote:
ale shark
Quote:
buelligansmate
RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.[/i]

So why did they summon him to appear? Total waste of time and money.
Absolutely, Ale (unless there is some provision for having to be reviewed if a tip-tackle is involved, but I presume that would only be if it attracted a straight red). Still, it must have been a nice all expenses paid day out for several people, so maybe it's not all bad.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
H's Dad... (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 09:27
Is deliberate knock-on a technical offence?
It's intentional in law!
From the Laws of the Game:
Law 10.2 (a)
Intentionally Offending. A player must not intentionally infringe any Law of the Game, or
play unfairly. The player who intentionally offends must be either admonished, or cautioned that a send off will result if the offence or a similar offence is committed, or sent off.
Sanction: Penalty kick
A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise
have been scored. A player who prevents a try being scored through foul play must either
be cautioned and temporarily suspended or sent off.

Also note that "foul play" covers everything from intentional offending and obstruction, all the way through to dangerous play.

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
buelligansmate (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 10:04
Quote:
ale shark
Quote:
buelligansmate
RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.[/i]

So why did they summon him to appear? Total waste of time and money.

Did they summon him though?

England rugby

The case will be dealt with on papers on Wednesday evening by a panel including Aidan O’Brien (chairman), Becky Essex and Tim Grey.

Does "on papers" mean the panel just look at the written evidence?

Paice on the other hand was Summoned to appear before the panel

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
Flumpty (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 11:45
I'm not 100% certain, but a sending off gets reported to the "powers that be", who review the sending off offense and decide the appropriate punishment.

The "hearing" can be done over the phone by conference call and the costs involved can me minimal (£25ish)

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
MartWhit (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 12:04
the costs probably depend on which network you use. Maybe they should use their free text allocation?

 
Re: McGuigan up before the beak tomorrow evening 06/12/2017
ageinghoody (IP Logged)
07 December, 2017 14:06
Quote:
buelligansmate
Quote:
ale shark
Quote:
buelligansmate
RFU rules state if a player is sent off for two yellow cards and at least one is a technical offence, such as a deliberate knock-on, the sending-off is sufficient punishment.[/i]

So why did they summon him to appear? Total waste of time and money.

Did they summon him though?

England rugby

The case will be dealt with on papers on Wednesday evening by a panel including Aidan O’Brien (chairman), Becky Essex and Tim Grey.

Does "on papers" mean the panel just look at the written evidence?

Paice on the other hand was Summoned to appear before the panel

The use of the term "face" the panel does seem to imply attendance at first reading. On the other hand, if there'd been a suggestion he was "facing" a ban, I don't suppose we'd have taken that literally.


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