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Discussion started by Stet , 09 September, 2018 17:20
Stet 09 September, 2018 17:20
What is it with these vendors insisting that they have to take the bottle top off you when you buy a drink.

How has this become a rule and what damage can you do with a plastic bottle top ??

A cup of tea has to have a top on and you can do a lot more damage with a hot drink, if you were inclined to throw it at someone

iBozz 09 September, 2018 17:49
The theory, which is a load of utter baloney and hogwash of the highest order, is that a bottle bought inside the ground (but apparently not if bought outside the ground) with a top on and full of liquid can be thrown hard and be used as a weapon - a bottle without a top and full of liquid cannot really be thrown with any force as the liquid would spill out. On the other hand, metal flasks, cups of hot coffee and/or tea seemingly cannot be used as lethal weapons.

They used to remove bottle tops at Twickenham but they seem, sensibly, to have abandoned the practice as they haven't bothered the last few times that I've been.

Rugby Union supporters, of course, are all well known hooligans who like nothing better during a game than to spend our time throwing full bottles of drinks at each other! (Sm11)

Another argument is that if a full bottle with top on falls over someone could step on it and have a fall. Liquid contents splashed or spilt from a bottle without a top does not, of course, present a slipping hazard as the laws of physics are different inside the AJB to what they are elsewhere!

No matter what you say, or how you say it, someone somewhere will deliberately go out of their way to be offended.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2018 17:53 by iBozz.

MikeGC 09 September, 2018 23:49
I imagine that they will continue to allow people to bring in a flask of coffee.
A full litre stainless steel flask could make quite a dent.

ulsterlad 10 September, 2018 03:42
I imagine that they will continue to allow people to bring in a flask of coffee.
A full litre stainless steel flask could make quite a dent.

The bottle top is pretty standard across all major venues.

Those venues also refuse to allow flasks and drinks though the gates. If people make an isuue of bottle tops in the bars, they may find all drinks ( including flasks) are banned from the stadium and removed at gates.

Just live with it -or if you must bring your own Coke top!

Stet 10 September, 2018 15:32
I was actually asking who came up with this ridiculous rule and what is the rationale behind it?

Is a bottle top an offensive weapon, anymore than a hot cup of tea.

It's one of the most infuriating rules out there at the moment

Barend 10 September, 2018 16:35
I would imagine at a stadium like the AJ Bell (as opposed to e.g. standing at a concert at the Manchester Arena) it is more likely the trip hazard. No lid = more likely to be crushed if stepped on, rather than slipped on if the lid is still on.

No idea where it's from but as Ulsterlad says, its commonplace.

H's Dad... 10 September, 2018 16:45
At Erawan Falls Park near Kanchanaburi, in Thailand, all water bottles and bottle tops sold have a 25 Baht deposit on them, You must bring both back to the shop to reclaim your deposit. It's a lot : almost 60 pence and represents a third of the cost of the water.
It seems to work in that it prevents littering all along the forrest rail to the amazing waterfalls. The few that are dropped accidentally are quickly collected by locals who appreciate the easy income.
Perhaps they should charge, say, a 5 refundable deposit on the drinks containers and tops in the stadium as supporters would then be sure to look after them carefully. They could do it on the plastic pint pots and coffee cups as well.
None would be used as missiles.
Sadly, after a home match, one look at the stands and you can tell we aren't Japanese.

yukon 11 September, 2018 15:59
This has been the reality for many years.

In other news, it's a shame about that great fire in London...

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