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So, Joe Launchbury again linked to a £500k contract with us. Rugby Pass have stated that he’s unhappy with the list of high profile players leaving Wasps and that we are after him.
Few thoughts, firstly I think that whilst we went after him once and he re signed with them, the player departures and the lack of decent training ground STILL, as well as the financial uncertainty may well make it more likely this time around.
Secondly, whilst he has performed fantastically for Wasps when fit, he has had some injury plagued seasons. I often think a fresh start is a catalyst for a player getting back to his top levels and getting the game time in.
Thirdly, we have are starting to show that we are a very good side and should only get better with the rumoured signings. I hope that the re signings of the big names will be an attraction for others.
Finally, Manchester vs Coventry = no contest. I know most of the Wasps lads live in Leamington Spa is it, but we have some quality spots and a bit more up here for him.
PS. He’s currently only on £270,00, so virtually doubling his pay surely won’t hurt
Few thoughts, firstly I think that whilst we went after him once and he re signed with them, the player departures and the lack of decent training ground STILL, as well as the financial uncertainty may well make it more likely this time around.
Secondly, whilst he has performed fantastically for Wasps when fit, he has had some injury plagued seasons. I often think a fresh start is a catalyst for a player getting back to his top levels and getting the game time in.
Thirdly, we have are starting to show that we are a very good side and should only get better with the rumoured signings. I hope that the re signings of the big names will be an attraction for others.
Finally, Manchester vs Coventry = no contest. I know most of the Wasps lads live in Leamington Spa is it, but we have some quality spots and a bit more up here for him.
PS. He’s currently only on £270,00, so virtually doubling his pay surely won’t hurt
How the heck is their captain on such a small wage.
I’m believing the front row rumours but I’m sort of ignoring the second row ones. We are being linked with everyone.
Personally, I think Launchbury is class but in terms of availability v value etc I think Attwood would be a better signing. Assuming he stays fit.
I’m believing the front row rumours but I’m sort of ignoring the second row ones. We are being linked with everyone.
Personally, I think Launchbury is class but in terms of availability v value etc I think Attwood would be a better signing. Assuming he stays fit.
I don’t think Jono Ross will be on anything more than 250/300. There are only a few top players commanding the 400 plus amount
Is this going to be the new annual rumour, taking over from Kyle Eastmond?
If you grossed £250000 a year and paid full tax in the UK, you would take home about £143,000 a year. Over a ten year career you would make £1.43 million. If you earned £30,000 a year take home, it would take you nearly 48 years to earn that amount.
I hope other people are interested in this, or I am just weird.
I hope other people are interested in this, or I am just weird.
oooohh, is Kyle Eastmond avaliable??? Not getting much game time at Tigers these days.
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If you grossed £250000 a year and paid full tax in the UK, you would take home about £143,000 a year. Over a ten year career you would make £1.43 million. If you earned £30,000 a year take home, it would take you nearly 48 years to earn that amount.
I hope other people are interested in this, or I am just weird.
Launchbury is a fantastic player and would be a great signing. However, with international duties and his injury record, how many times would he actually feature for us?
If one of the reasons we are attracting the interest of some of these big name stars is because we have salary cap to fill, and are now in the position that we can actually fill it, then we need to be careful how we do that. In many respects, I would rather bring in a Dave Attwood, on less money and who will be available for the whole season, than a Joe Launchbury on (allegedly) a huge wage and who will only play half a season.
Nice problem to have though and it would be difficult to say no to Launchbury I guess!!
If one of the reasons we are attracting the interest of some of these big name stars is because we have salary cap to fill, and are now in the position that we can actually fill it, then we need to be careful how we do that. In many respects, I would rather bring in a Dave Attwood, on less money and who will be available for the whole season, than a Joe Launchbury on (allegedly) a huge wage and who will only play half a season.
Nice problem to have though and it would be difficult to say no to Launchbury I guess!!
If it's true and if it happens (I'm really stressing the "if" here) I would be praying he doesn't turn out like Richie Gray!
Launchbury has a huge work ethic, can’t see him becoming a Ritchie Gray if we signed him
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If it's true and if it happens (I'm really stressing the "if" here) I would be praying he doesn't turn out like Richie Gray!
Absolutely no chance
Just a quick point re Kyle Eastmond deferred to above, he’s had an injury and a (harsh) ban. Has impressed when given the chance earlier in the season.
Ps I would like to think we were in for Launchbury if he is unsettled but there’s no word about it. Would be a great signing for you guys
Ps I would like to think we were in for Launchbury if he is unsettled but there’s no word about it. Would be a great signing for you guys
I understand the reservations over Launchbury's recent injury record and likely time away with England, but on top of his game he is one of the best locks in world rugby, we would have to take him if available. One thing I am certain Dimes wouldn't do, no matter how high his budget, is over pay for anyone, he will demand value.
I would be delighted with either one of Attwood or Launchbury, just that little bit more delighted with Joe.
Unhappiness, where's when I was young
And we didn't give a damn
'Cause we were raised
To see life as a fun and take it if we can
I would be delighted with either one of Attwood or Launchbury, just that little bit more delighted with Joe.
Unhappiness, where's when I was young
And we didn't give a damn
'Cause we were raised
To see life as a fun and take it if we can
In the last 6 seasons you needed 15 wins to be sure of a top 4 finish. Sometimes 14 is enough.
This season 6 league games are on during the AIs and 6N meaning if you're packed full of internationals you only get your optimum available selection for 16 league games (assuming 4 AIs and no selection during the 6N off weeks). I assume that is typical of other previous seasons, not bothered to check.
You also have the maximum game numbers a player can play in a season to worry about (I don’t know what a season is or if the rule applies to a calendar year). I don’t know if this is RFU or World Rugby rules. From next season its 30 lots of 80 mins or 35 matchday squads. England play 11-12 games a year.
England players should be available for at least 15 rounds of the prem, the play offs and all of a Europe campaign.
I’m rambling.
This season 6 league games are on during the AIs and 6N meaning if you're packed full of internationals you only get your optimum available selection for 16 league games (assuming 4 AIs and no selection during the 6N off weeks). I assume that is typical of other previous seasons, not bothered to check.
You also have the maximum game numbers a player can play in a season to worry about (I don’t know what a season is or if the rule applies to a calendar year). I don’t know if this is RFU or World Rugby rules. From next season its 30 lots of 80 mins or 35 matchday squads. England play 11-12 games a year.
England players should be available for at least 15 rounds of the prem, the play offs and all of a Europe campaign.
I’m rambling.
If you get Launchbury, he is a top, top player, will be sadly missed by Wasps. He lifts the whole side to give more. Not a vocal captain, but leads by example and is highly motivated and always gives 100%. Definitely a cut above Attwood, who is a good player.
Ostrikov, who he’d effectively be replacing, also missed games due to internationals and has a mixed injury record, we would still have good players like Phillips to fall back on when away. We don’t want to be too packed out with internationals, it’s just getting the balance right.
I'd be confident we could help Launchbury stay fit and on the park, less confident he'd be value for money at the reported salary as he'd still be absent with England and have to play more games than other squad members. He's clearly quality however.
FOr me, I think the gap between he and Attwood is slim enough to make Attwood the better pickup at likely a much lower figure.
Unless we're looking at both of course. But that would then make the du Preez triple threat less likely.
FOr me, I think the gap between he and Attwood is slim enough to make Attwood the better pickup at likely a much lower figure.
Unless we're looking at both of course. But that would then make the du Preez triple threat less likely.
I agree. I think Attwood would be great. Happy with either obviously!!!
Depends when Du Preez are potentially arriving of course. It may not be for start of next year. Some current players may well leave as well.
Depends when Du Preez are potentially arriving of course. It may not be for start of next year. Some current players may well leave as well.
Joe and Wasps have just released a joint statement that Joe is going nowhere and will be at Wasps next season.
Sorry fellas but you have signed one top player from us in JCW.
Huge relief for us Wasps fans. His departure would have been tragic.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
Sorry fellas but you have signed one top player from us in JCW.
Huge relief for us Wasps fans. His departure would have been tragic.
Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Anyone else we can grab?
Wow. We’ve lost a few stellar players recently - Wade, Hughes, JCW, WLR and Stuart - with Daley expected to go too. We are feeling very vulnerable at the moment and not confident they can be replaced before next season.
Wasps are going through a period of transition right now and the retention of Joe gives us something to be positive about.
I realise we have nicked quite a few of your best players too so we wish you well. Your club seems to be in the ascendancy right now. Good luck.
Can we reclaim TT, Miller and McIntyre please.And Gaskell whilst we're at it please.
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Can we reclaim TT, Miller and McIntyre please.And Gaskell whilst we're at it please.
I think we’ve got better than Miller
Not really too bothered about any of them unless TT stays fit for a season.
I rather like one (major) club players like Cueto and now Launchbury. It's great that so many of Exeter's players were there from the start of the rise.
There are no ants in Antarctica despite the name.
I rather like one (major) club players like Cueto and now Launchbury. It's great that so many of Exeter's players were there from the start of the rise.
There are no ants in Antarctica despite the name.
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Can we reclaim TT, Miller and McIntyre please.And Gaskell whilst we're at it please.
I think we’ve got better than Miller
I agree. He was never a regular starter when he was with us before. I know he has had his injury problems since joining Wasps but they don't particularly wax lyrical about him on their forum. Shame really because he undoubtedly has/had talent but, for whatever reason, it still seems to be unrealized potential.
I think of that bunch, McIntyre is the only one who has kicked on (in rugby terms) since moving.
Gaskell was captain of the England Saxons* when at Sale, now struggled with injuries and has been in and out of the team. No further recognition for England.
Taylor has been perma-crocked and is now seemingly way down the pecking order. Even trickier when behind the England captain and a Lions test starting hooker for the national team.
Miller been injured too I think. He was the leading try scorer for a bit when he was with us and we moved him from a fly half to a wing/full back. Called up to Saxons too. Done nowt special since.
At Sale now, they'd be pretty good squad players, but for me the jury is out as to whether they have 'improved'. Depends on your definition I guess. Does watching your team from the sidelines getting battered by Leinster in the Heineken Cup improve your own game?
*I appreciate it is difficult given the Saxons no longer exist.
Gaskell was captain of the England Saxons* when at Sale, now struggled with injuries and has been in and out of the team. No further recognition for England.
Taylor has been perma-crocked and is now seemingly way down the pecking order. Even trickier when behind the England captain and a Lions test starting hooker for the national team.
Miller been injured too I think. He was the leading try scorer for a bit when he was with us and we moved him from a fly half to a wing/full back. Called up to Saxons too. Done nowt special since.
At Sale now, they'd be pretty good squad players, but for me the jury is out as to whether they have 'improved'. Depends on your definition I guess. Does watching your team from the sidelines getting battered by Leinster in the Heineken Cup improve your own game?
*I appreciate it is difficult given the Saxons no longer exist.
It is impossible to know of course if their careers might have progressed further had they stayed with us. All claimed that they left to further their careers at a 'bigger' club. Clearly that hasn't happened for a variety of reasons. I would be happy to have TT and Jamma back anyway, if they could be nursed back to fitness.
All bar McIntyre have nose drived since going to Wasps there’s not even an argument. Nearly all injured, all the time. Never so at Sale. If you asked any of them (receiving an honest answer) I bet none of them would gone if they had known how the past few years have worked out, especially with our new owners.
The only one who would significantly add to our team at the moment would be TT, imagine Webber starting (with current form) and TT coming off the bench. That’s the stuff of naughty rugby dreams.
The only one who would significantly add to our team at the moment would be TT, imagine Webber starting (with current form) and TT coming off the bench. That’s the stuff of naughty rugby dreams.
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... for me the jury is out as to whether they have 'improved'. Depends on your definition I guess.
They'll certainly have improved their bank balances. For many, as an employee, that's enough.
Wasn’t Cruise also ex-Sale? He seems to have done rather well
Yes, I’d argue cruse is the really big success story of our old boys down there.
Aye, Cruse has been really good for Wasps.
Thought it was pretty ironic when he initially signed for them - He left us because Taylor overtook him. Moved to Roterham then Not Nots before signing for Wasps...who Tommy Taylor then signed for as first choice.
Worked out alright for him in the end, though, as Taylor is almost constantly injured (52 appearances for Cruse, 41 for Taylor)
Thought it was pretty ironic when he initially signed for them - He left us because Taylor overtook him. Moved to Roterham then Not Nots before signing for Wasps...who Tommy Taylor then signed for as first choice.
Worked out alright for him in the end, though, as Taylor is almost constantly injured (52 appearances for Cruse, 41 for Taylor)
My all seems to have performed well and consistently at Wasps, but whether he has improved is moot. Seems to have stayed fit.
I recall Miller was exciting at wing and fullback. He had real gas, solid under the high ball and a very good boot on him. His defence was a bit suspect. He seemed more at home in the back three than at fly half. IIRC he has played a fair proportion of his games at 10, and has of course been behind Cipriani, Wade and le Roux in his positions - so perhaps not surprising he hasn’t featured more frequently behind those galacticos. While we are blessed with a surfeit of quality back three players he would probably be surplus to requirements, but imho there aren’t many other premiership xv’s Where he wouldn’t get a load more game time outside ourselves and Wasps.
I recall Miller was exciting at wing and fullback. He had real gas, solid under the high ball and a very good boot on him. His defence was a bit suspect. He seemed more at home in the back three than at fly half. IIRC he has played a fair proportion of his games at 10, and has of course been behind Cipriani, Wade and le Roux in his positions - so perhaps not surprising he hasn’t featured more frequently behind those galacticos. While we are blessed with a surfeit of quality back three players he would probably be surplus to requirements, but imho there aren’t many other premiership xv’s Where he wouldn’t get a load more game time outside ourselves and Wasps.
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All bar McIntyre have nose drived since going to Wasps there’s not even an argument. Nearly all injured, all the time. Never so at Sale. If you asked any of them (receiving an honest answer) I bet none of them would gone if they had known how the past few years have worked out, especially with our new owners.
Hang on fella, doesn't sound like a statement built on fact.
Mac has been as injured as any of them, maybe more so, so how has he kicked improved? TT got injured with England long term then got concussed during a game, these are not club specific, noting he was with the national team, so clearly kicked on.
Gamma has a long term back/nerve issue that isn't resolving, again not a direct attributed to anything.
Over these years you speak of they have been in a team that played reg in Europe and reached finals and semi's. The fact they have all re-signed tells you they are happy with their moves.
Hymenoptera - Do Wasps still train on a pub car park or have they got their own facilities yet? Might exacerbate some of the injuries.
I wonder if Wasps getting Gaskell to put a load of weight on has caused him problems.
Would likely have had the same issues if he’d stayed with us, like with Nott.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
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Would likely have had the same issues if he’d stayed with us, like with Nott.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
Unless your James Phillips aka Super James Phillips, who seems to have come along very nicely since joining us from Barf.
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All bar McIntyre have nose drived since going to Wasps there’s not even an argument. Nearly all injured, all the time. Never so at Sale. If you asked any of them (receiving an honest answer) I bet none of them would gone if they had known how the past few years have worked out, especially with our new owners.
Hang on fella, doesn't sound like a statement built on fact.
Mac has been as injured as any of them, maybe more so, so how has he kicked improved? TT got injured with England long term then got concussed during a game, these are not club specific, noting he was with the national team, so clearly kicked on.
Gamma has a long term back/nerve issue that isn't resolving, again not a direct attributed to anything.
Over these years you speak of they have been in a team that played reg in Europe and reached finals and semi's. The fact they have all re-signed tells you they are happy with their moves.
So what you’re saying is they’re a bunch of crocks and we are better off without? Agreed.
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Would likely have had the same issues if he’d stayed with us, like with Nott.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
Horse seems to have kicked on somewhat since he came to us.
And Yarde seems happier.
Cips arguably sorted himself out.
Dan Mugford I’d argue would never reach his potential playing for Dimes.
On a wider note, Eddie managed to turn round the England team pretty quickly.
Gustard seems to be doing the same at Quins.
I think a coach can have a massive impact just as a line manager can in any environment. Most people will have a favourite boss or even teacher.
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Would likely have had the same issues if he’d stayed with us, like with Nott.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
Horse seems to have kicked on somewhat since he came to us.
And Yarde seems happier.
Cips arguably sorted himself out.
Dan Mugford I’d argue would never reach his potential playing for Dimes.
On a wider note, Eddie managed to turn round the England team pretty quickly.
Gustard seems to be doing the same at Quins.
I think a coach can have a massive impact just as a line manager can in any environment. Most people will have a favourite boss or even teacher.
Not sure that Mugford was ever Premiership quality. Dimes or no Dimes. There doesnt seem to be a queue of Prem clubs being linked with him atm
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Unless your James Phillips aka Super James Phillips, who seems to have come along very nicely since joining us from Barf.
I think James is great, but for me his improvement comes mostly from getting more regular game time with us than he did at Bath. This is often the case with players on the chunkier side - Rooney was similar for Utd.
If we sign a couple of locks in the summer and he’s less of a first team fixture I’d anticipate his performances to slip back again.
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Horse seems to have kicked on somewhat since he came to us.
And Yarde seems happier.
Cips arguably sorted himself out.
Dan Mugford I’d argue would never reach his potential playing for Dimes.
On a wider note, Eddie managed to turn round the England team pretty quickly.
Gustard seems to be doing the same at Quins.
I think a coach can have a massive impact just as a line manager can in any environment. Most people will have a favourite boss or even teacher.
England have also had a bit of a crash and Gustards results have been pretty patchy to be honest, so I think you help make my point. Yes of course the coach can help with a players mental state or improve a playing environment, or teach new moves, but that doesn’t fundamentally change the players ability, otherwise the performances of England and Quins would remain more consistent.
Yarde had all the attributes before, he wasn’t happy where he was. Byron has had more chances to play as with Phillips. Cips always had mad skills.
My point is saying that the players who moved to Wasps
failed to kick on as players is a bit irrelevant. Saying they failed to win trophies and get England recognition is fair enough.
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Would likely have had the same issues if he’d stayed with us, like with Nott.
I think the whole idea of moving to another Prem club to improve as a player is a bit of a fallacy to be honest.
You may move to a better team, in which case your own strengths may stand out more, or be playing in more high profile games to get more exposure.
Possibly you could move to a team whose playing style suits you better, but ultimately I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
I would say that the quality of off field stuff like physio availability and medical facilities such as alt-g treadmills can vary significantly between clubs, stuff like that is hard to quantify, but will make a difference to a player in terms of ability to consistently play to their potential, as well as long term injury rates.
It is also outside of the salary cap, so is easy to cut back on, if money becomes tight
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All bar McIntyre have nose drived since going to Wasps there’s not even an argument. Nearly all injured, all the time. Never so at Sale. If you asked any of them (receiving an honest answer) I bet none of them would gone if they had known how the past few years have worked out, especially with our new owners.
Hang on fella, doesn't sound like a statement built on fact.
Mac has been as injured as any of them, maybe more so, so how has he kicked improved? TT got injured with England long term then got concussed during a game, these are not club specific, noting he was with the national team, so clearly kicked on.
Gamma has a long term back/nerve issue that isn't resolving, again not a direct attributed to anything.
Over these years you speak of they have been in a team that played reg in Europe and reached finals and semi's. The fact they have all re-signed tells you they are happy with their moves.
It isn’t based on fact no, but how many times has TT played for England whilst at Wasps? 100% of his caps were as a Sale player. Not had a look in since.
Gaskell is no where near the England second row whereas when he was a Saxon with Sale you would imagine he would have been somewhere near the reckoning.
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I don’t see coaches at different teams making a fundamental improvement to a players skillset/conditioning once theyre already of Prem standard.
He may not be head coach, but I would say our forward play has improved massively since West joined as forwards coach. Think a good coach can make all the difference and get more out of the players
Coaches clearly have a big role to play
e.g. Richie Gray - good international player, good pre Sharks and good post Sharks
I understand many dismiss the lad but he was playing the role that the DoR required but it was clearly the wrong role as it failed to use him to Sharks best advantage
e.g. Richie Gray - good international player, good pre Sharks and good post Sharks
I understand many dismiss the lad but he was playing the role that the DoR required but it was clearly the wrong role as it failed to use him to Sharks best advantage
Coaches clearly have a big role to play
e.g. Richie Gray - good international player, good pre Sharks and good post Sharks
I understand many dismiss the lad but he was playing the role that the DoR required but it was clearly the wrong role as it failed to use him to Sharks best advantage
e.g. Richie Gray - good international player, good pre Sharks and good post Sharks
I understand many dismiss the lad but he was playing the role that the DoR required but it was clearly the wrong role as it failed to use him to Sharks best advantage
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Coaches clearly have a big role to play
e.g. Richie Gray - good international player, good pre Sharks and good post Sharks
I understand many dismiss the lad but he was playing the role that the DoR required but it was clearly the wrong role as it failed to use him to Sharks best advantage
I disagree, he played the Invisible Man role magnificently. Game after game I went to Sale and watched 14 players and an empty shirt.
That isn't quite true - I can remember one good game that he played in. It was when John Mitchell had perfected his scary look and he freely used it.
I think this discussion shows that there are lots of reasons why moving clubs can improve a players’s perfornsnce
Their actual skill level improved due to different coaching methods
They happen to get more game time and this improves fiitnrss/confidence
They feel happier on an emotional level with the coach/club/players/location
They fit in better with the playing style/team mates
I’m sure there are others, but just pointing out that players have performed better at new clubs doesn’t mean crutch is wrong about them not necessarily improving their personal skill set, it’s often just about getting the most out of what they already possess
Their actual skill level improved due to different coaching methods
They happen to get more game time and this improves fiitnrss/confidence
They feel happier on an emotional level with the coach/club/players/location
They fit in better with the playing style/team mates
I’m sure there are others, but just pointing out that players have performed better at new clubs doesn’t mean crutch is wrong about them not necessarily improving their personal skill set, it’s often just about getting the most out of what they already possess
Yes. In the case of Diamond his player improvements are mainly mental. West’s coaching has definitely improved the team but that doesn’t mean that it improves the player necessarily.
Remember watching Gray warming up pre match on his own with a personal trainer and thinking that's odd and perhaps he won't fit in.
Same thoughts immediately occurred with Mujati when in his first home game he had shot down the players tunnel to the dressing rooms within 30 seconds of the final whistle going
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Same thoughts immediately occurred with Mujati when in his first home game he had shot down the players tunnel to the dressing rooms within 30 seconds of the final whistle going
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Fissler saying on Twitter that Dave Attwood is off to Bristol for next season. Would like to see him here. Just the sort of player we could do with.
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Same thoughts immediately occurred with Mujati when in his first home game he had shot down the players tunnel to the dressing rooms within 30 seconds of the final whistle going
Probably in a hurry to update his Social Media. Priorities and all that!
Just think he was a slightly odd character. Doesn’t mean there was an issue. Not sure his heart was in it anymore which is why he wasn’t great.
I think you are right and his priorities had changed since his days at Saints. Probably the same issue in France
From his videos his priorities were clearly brewing and bodybuilding with rugby a distant 3rd. Thats fine and i''m sure there are many of us that much prefer to do things other than our jobs but we have to do our jobs properly in order to fund doing the stuff we like doing and to eran a living
From his videos his priorities were clearly brewing and bodybuilding with rugby a distant 3rd. Thats fine and i''m sure there are many of us that much prefer to do things other than our jobs but we have to do our jobs properly in order to fund doing the stuff we like doing and to eran a living
Mujati - He gives some great BBQing advice. An inspirational figure for me last year. I would never have attempted a 12hr Boston butt without his input. It was truly magnificent.
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Same thoughts immediately occurred with Mujati when in his first home game he had shot down the players tunnel to the dressing rooms within 30 seconds of the final whistle going
Probably in a hurry to update his Social Media. Priorities and all that!
I was told he had to rush off to look after his kids, as Chenesai was otherwise engaged.
He had only recently arrived and hadn't been able to organise a support network.
Understandable I would have thought.
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