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Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
09 February, 2018 12:51
These are 'Skippy's' favourites. These are the players who together never look like a team and who collectively on the whole have failed.

Like many I would have liked to have seen at least Simmons and most especially Wells in the team. What exactly are we saving Wells for because at this rate he'll be off at the next opportunity?

As always I would like to be proved wrong.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Rich W (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 13:09
Give our lineout difficulties as a whole this season I'm pretty sure starting with TPN isn't the solution.

Are we seriously to accept that an international 10 - no matter how imperfect - isn't a valid option over an imperfect Championship 10? Come on - there are times when you have to play the numbers.

I'm not sure there are too many favourites involved - in fact MOC's signings are largely conspicuous by their absence from te starting XV at least - it just look like selection by rote to me.



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Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Tom Paine (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 13:47
A lot will depend on the form of the two Mikes. As Rich pointed out on another thread, they have both gone backwards under the current regime. It's now hard to believe that Williams was ever on Jones's radar, but he was and his form then was certainly noteworthy.
I actually think we can win this as the Glos team doesn't look that strong in the pack and Twelvetrees is prone to defensive errors. It depends how well or forwards emerge from the cotton wool.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
GT1 (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 13:52
Just my thoughts but could it be that Toomua's not able to play at 10(the kicking part anyway) due to his recent injuries!
He hasn't looked anywhere near the form he was in at the start of season imho
Hope we can get something from this game but Glous are very good at home!
And Manu has been named but will he start?

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
09 February, 2018 14:05
Perhaps favourites was the wrong word.

Perhaps I should have said his stubbornly, fixed in stone although it's not working, favoured selection.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
daktari (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:09
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RushdenTiger (KT at work)
Perhaps favourites was the wrong word.
Perhaps I should have said his stubbornly, fixed in stone although it's not working, favoured selection.
But working hard in a "it`s not working" environment.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Rich W (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:10
that I get!



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Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
SK 88 (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:47
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At last, Tiggs - someone questioning the Toomua at 10 idea. He may have played there before, but I was never convinced when it was tried in Super Rugby. In addition to general play, his goal kicking has always been incredibly streaky, prone to disastrous off-days.

He's not a goal kicker granted. According to itsrugby he's only ever kicked 7 conversions.

But he has played a lot at 10. Saying it was "tried" implies an occasional use. He played 40 of 58 Super Rugby matches itsrugby has data for at 10. That's was his main position.

Its not a controversial opinion to want an experienced Super Rugby player ahead of a former Championship player!

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Tiggs (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:50
Did he play 10 with an experienced kicker in the side ?
In Oz they often play the 10 as a second 12, and someone else kicks ?



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Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
daktari (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:51
Who knows, it might of been part pf the machinations in securing Golden boy that big bruvva came with him and played 10 whenever his sibling was playing for Ingerlund.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
IDLETIMES (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:51
Doesn,t matter what the team is from here on in, it's win or fertilize

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
SK 88 (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:56
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Did he play 10 with an experienced kicker in the side ?
In Oz they often play the 10 as a second 12, and someone else kicks ?

well yes obviously they had another kicked in the side! They didn't just turn down all the conversions and penalties!

Sam Harrison kicked us to victory in this game last year. But apparently he can't now?

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
tigerburnie (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 15:20
As long as we are still in it at the hour mark we will be fine when their replacements come on, only heard of 2 of them and we gave them those 2 and Fraser isn't going to worry us is he?

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Ayerza wannabe (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 15:45
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Tiggs
Did he play 10 with an experienced kicker in the side ?
In Oz they often play the 10 as a second 12, and someone else kicks ?

I think it was usually him and lealiifano who played 10/12 and rotated a lot during the games.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
tigersimon (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 16:03
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As long as we are still in it at the hour mark we will be fine when their replacements come on, only heard of 2 of them and we gave them those 2 and Fraser isn't going to worry us is he?


With our slow starts this season(Sm22)

In terms of the bench Vellacott is a good Scrum half and Matt Scott is a Scottish international, surprised Owen is not in their squad

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
tigersimon (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 16:09
What a fantastic selection (Sm161)

What encouragement does that give the squad that you are selecting on form, as previously mentioned 'Skippy's' favourites have been chosen

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Yorkie (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 16:12
Don't I recall that Owen has played a fair bit at 10 in the past? So bring him in and you have a similar set up as Oz.

Worth did a reasonable job at kicking recently so stick him in a full back (or Centre if Manu not fit) and move Veainu to the wing instead of Malouf.

Just mix up what ain't working ffs!



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Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
tigersimon (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 17:06
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Yorkie
Just mix up what ain't working ffs!

Agree but don't think it will happen in the current 'environment' as would mean not selecting Skippy's favourites.

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
tigersimon (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 17:19
Traynor should be no where near our Matchday squad put some faith in an Italian international who under an old management scheme and whilst on loan working for this person played well or develop the Argentinian!
The selected 2nd row partnership has not performed well this season and on form Wells has to start (especially without Barrow).
Williams has not been in particularly good form this season but with the 2nd row selection probably has to play to add grunt. Kalamafoni has not impressed and I would on form select Mapalangi above him.

Joe Ford is a failed experiment at Premiership level so try something different, Toomua, Worth or recall Hardwick from U20's!

 
Re: Gloucester v Tigers Team News
Rich W (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 17:31
In fact - anything!



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