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Half of those were away games which you don't necessarily expect to win, but, yes, not many bonus points and not good!
Quote:VR1997
Wasps, Quins, Northampton, Exeter, Bath and Leicester all lose this weekend.
At the halfway stage in the Pools it doesn't look as though we are going to have much representation in the latter stages of the Champions Cup.
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There's a team missing from that list!
That's because he doesn't have a crystal ball. As a Tigs supporter you of all people must know that you can't be top dogs for ever.
Quote:Westrock
Increase the salary cap to that of the French teams and then we might be able to build bigger and better squads to compete.
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Increase the salary cap to that of the French teams and then we might be able to build bigger and better squads to compete.
Quote:Seany_Boy0511
Raising the salary cap would not work, money doesn't buy success (no matter what anyone thinks) Saracens team that dominated over the last couple of seasons have mainly been academy lads with the retiring experienced players coming for the odd season, also we unearthed Gems in Duncan Taylor, Chris Wyles, Schalk Brits, and to a degree Alex Lozowski.
Quote:Roger G
Hi ukms, I think you have a point with regard to Lozowski. Brits, however, although a capped international had, as far as I'm aware, little or no chance of adding to his caps due to the preference of the then SA coach for a different type of hooker (Jon Smit, Bismarck du Plessis), and when he came to Sarries few in the UK had heard of him. Another Du Plessis, although no longer with us, might also be classed as an unearthed gem, along with Richard Barrington. Yes, we've signed some big names, but no more than some other clubs, and the squad is primarily built around academy graduates
Quote:OldMarovian
Roger G, spot on. Also think you could claim that whatever potential Lozo might have had at Wasps it wasn't being realised as he sat behind Cipriani and Gopperth barely getting bench spots let alone starts. Skip forward a season and he is starting or at worst benching almost continuously whilst having been called up by England. I'd be very interested to hear where or when Wasps supporters think his break at Wasps was going to come? When Cipriani was injured maybe? little sign of it before then.
Quote:OldMarovian
Fair point ukms but if I understand you right that's a bit my point. He was waiting around for an injury to promote him to a starting or bench spot and give him the chance, without that would he have got one?
Funnily as soon as he joined us he benefitted from just that straight away as Farrell was out at the beginning of the season so Lozo went straight from "bright young thing" to starting fly-half.