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Nigel was a leading voice in getting rid of the previous Heineken Cup organising body (a creature of the Unions) and setting up the new body (EPCR) a creature of the clubs. He got what he wanted, but now he seems to be saying he doesn't want it!
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I could without fear of contradiction say the government is chaotic; doesn't mean I don't want the government
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He's simply saying they're chaotic (hard to argue against) not that he doesn't want them. He's saying he doesn't want them to be chaotic!
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He's simply saying they're chaotic (hard to argue against) not that he doesn't want them. He's saying he doesn't want them to be chaotic!
Plainly that is not what he said. What he said (paraphrasing) is that they are necessarily chaotic, that it is in the nature of the beast. They can't be necessarily chaotic and yet not chaotic!