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A game too far
Stopsy (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 17:26
For your squad, remember how your first win at Welford Road felt? This is the same for us. Our best game of the season albeit against a much depleted Saracens team. By the way, what a player Malin seems!



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Re: A game too far
Huxley (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 17:32
Congratulations Stopsy, both teams got exactly what they deserved from the game.

 
Re: A game too far
Dave Berko (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 17:34
Have to agree. Far too many out plus too many 1st games back after very long spells out. Also agree re Malins.

But Tigers were excellent and worthy winners.

 
Re: A game too far
King Zak (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 17:38
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Huxley
Congratulations Stopsy, both teams got exactly what they deserved from the game.

Spot on!



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Re: A game too far
ninjafez (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 18:02
We were forced into the worse performance I have seen at azp except that fateful game with wasps, congrats stropsy, you team deserved all 5 points



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Re: A game too far
Rolls (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 18:44
Can’t begrudge Tigers the points, they played pretty much the best team they could, we played what we’d got left. Our play at the breakdowns was the worst I’ve ever seen, just awful. Full marks to our subs, Malins, Spurling, Whitely etc they really looked like they wanted to redress the balance, our starting line up never fired, with a few exceptions.
Funny thing is, I felt more downhearted for 65 minutes in this game than I did for the St Valentine’s Day Massacre! Oh well, Chiefs away next week, see you there.

 
Re: A game too far
samgibbo (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 18:50
much like the home fixture against Exeter, we failed to kick for field position and attacked from the wrong areas of the pitch which resulted in errors and is losing possession

 
Re: A game too far
OldMarovian (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 18:56
Well done to Stopsy and Leicester but I am not sure I accept that it was a game too far for us.

Not for the first time this season the gameplan was absolutely brain-dead considering the opposition. Kick (into the wind) infield with an indifferent chase to an opposition who relish running it back. Yes injuries derailed us to an extent but Spencer, goal-kicking aside, played as badly as I have seen him and yet wasn't hooked till what? ten minutes left? Felt like a repetition of us leaving Mako on once he had picked up his fourth penalty and then got an inevitable card. Also what was the plan with one up runners all game? Really, really disappointed.

Earles also had a shocker. First try was a hard finish second one was butchered.

Last twenty was pretty positive and we were so close to getting a try in the last play. Who'd have thought that moving a big team like Leicester around and cutting angles was more successful than running straight at them?? (Sm54)

Hope that Clark and Vailanu are ok and also the Leicester 12.

Malins was class. Barritt tireless. Impressed with Spurlings work rate and willingness to get involved despite taking a huge hit soon after he came on.

Credit to Leicester but this was a self-inflicted loss.

 
Re: A game too far
The Bard (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 19:24
Can’t disagree with much of that. Tigers pack played like a pack, we were all over the place . Defence was largely good, but lapses in concentration cost us dear. It was our ball handling, poor kick chase and breakdown work that really disappointed.
Vieanu is a true world class full back it must be said

 
Re: A game too far
RustySword (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 21:04
Cheers Stopsy, generous and gentlemanly as always.

I presume that whoever broke Clark's wrist (such is the rumour I hear) whispered "this is for Rob" into his shell-like.

 
Re: A game too far
OldMarovian (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 21:17
Snip



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Re: A game too far
Jim 55 (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 21:37
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OldMarovian
snip
Yup +1.



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Re: A game too far
RustySword (IP Logged)
25 February, 2018 23:56
[snip]



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Re: A game too far
Stopsy (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 08:40
And this thread had been civilised up until now, shame.

 
Re: A game too far
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 08:42
Sometimes Stopsy, the emotion is too much.(Sm147)

 
Re: A game too far
Stopsy (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 08:44
I'll have to rewatch it (not just for this) and see what happened to Calum but I suspect he damaged himself landing much as Owen did. Now I know the lad has talked about his inner chimp but whispering to himself? really?

 
Re: A game too far
Roger G (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 09:02
IMHO this game shows the value of our normal rotation policy, which we haven't been able to operate for a while. Our guys out there seemed tired to me, which is not surprising since the same group have had to play game after game due to international call-ups and injuries. That's not a moan, just the way it is. Also, it is just one poor performance. I'm very confident that we can (note: "can" not always will or should) beat anybody, home or away, when we have anything close to our first choice team available, so as long as we stay in the top 4 the chance of AP silverware is still very much alive.

 
Re: A game too far
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 11:36
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Re: A game too far
Neville (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 12:37
Well played Leicester and Stopsy. Class both

 
Re: A game too far
Seany_Boy0511 (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 13:32
Stopsy very deserving win congratulations, don't worry about silly comments from some posters, nobody deliberately breaks people's wrists, obviously there is a little bit of bad blood between Clark and Leicester and therefore they will probably go in even harder on him... But not to intentionally injure him!

Well done and best of luck for the rest of the season

Maybe Malins should start down at Exeter? Mix it up a little

 
Re: A game too far
Stopsy (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 13:57
Malins should be kept safe from harm until he joins us.... (Sm128)

 
Re: A game too far
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 16:37
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Stopsy
Malins should be kept safe from harm until he joins us.... (Sm128)
Please don't even joke about it. ;-) . Faz Loz and Max...can we keep them all happy in the future?



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Re: A game too far
Innings (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 18:49
A game too far? It's pretty much known at the beginning of the season how many games are to be played. The only game too far would be getting into knockout stages and being knocked out through being knackered, as we have known from experience.



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Re: A game too far
Stopsy (IP Logged)
26 February, 2018 21:26
But Innings, the pre-season can take into account the fixture list and international absentees. What it cannot do, within the cap, is plan for multiple additional absences particularly in the same position

 
Re: A game too far
#wolfpack (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 10:59
I don't think there is any coincidence that England and Sarries have been stuttering a bit this season, with - with the exception of the always excellent Owen Farrell - our big players being really quiet (or injured).

Maro has been very quiet this 6N (and season in general I think), Mako has tried manfully but hasn't got the purchase he used to and his scrummaging has gone backwards, George Kruis had such a poor couple of months he went from Lions starter to out of the Sarries team, Jamie George hasn't been quite as busy as he was last year, Billy Vunipola has played very little in the last 12 months.

On the Sarries boys - Wiggy has had fits and starts, Marcello looks a yard off, Rhodesy has been injured most of the year, Jackson is having his quietest season for a few years etc.


I just think some of these boys are very tired both mentally and physically. So many big games, so many physical games - no wonder every so often they look like they've lost a tiny bit of desire.

I know he was v poor at the weekend, but for me our best player this season has been our replacement scrum half - closely followed by a 19 year old lock in his first year of first team rugby. This is in a team with some of the best players in the world. There has to be a reason for that.

We're a very good team (and very very good when we play Northampton) and we may well end up winning some silverware at the end of the season, but I just think that the more we and England flog our players the more we should expect results and performances like some of those we've seen this season.

At the end of the year I'd like Eddie Jones to leave anyone who went on the Lions tour at home to give them some proper recovery time. He'll be sniffing a southern hempisphere whitewash, however, so no chance - and then the cycle will start again in September.

 
Re: A game too far
Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 11:47
Agree totally
I dont think when our 6 Lions come back it will have quite as much of an effect as we are hoping!



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Re: A game too far
Innings (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 13:55
Nor the Scot, nor the Welsh chap, (who BTW is also a Lion), nor Rhodes, nor Billy, nor the other Scot, nor the Frenchman, nor the big Aussie. AS everyone knows, Sarries have forty players in their squad who would be marquee signings in any other set-up, so losing the best players on the nominal roll is not a problem.



Innings

Points win matches: tries win hearts and minds.

 
Re: A game too far
OldMarovian (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 18:04
Quote:
#wolfpack
He'll be sniffing a southern hempisphere whitewash, however, so no chance - and then the cycle will start again in September.

More like trying to avoid a bloodbath. Erasmus is working on having his SA "foreigners" available and over-turning the current rules. He'll still be constrained by the 50/50 rule but potentially he could have the Montpellier boys back, Koch? Vermuellan, Faf de Klerk, Pienaar, Hougarrd, etc

I don't see Jones increasing the risk of a humping by leaving first XV players at home.

 
Re: A game too far
Mobbs (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 21:13
Please feel free to make a similar performance at the Gardens in a few weeks time !

 
Re: A game too far
The Bard (IP Logged)
27 February, 2018 21:56
If we do you might just make up the 150 points difference in one go!

 
Re: A game too far
Seany_Boy0511 (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 15:24
We will have our full strength team by then, so fortunate for you mobbs, that is unlikely to happen again

And after all we want 200 (Sm100)

 
Re: A game too far
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
28 February, 2018 19:38
With regard to Saints - where is SaintEd these days - I hope he is well and just fed up with rugby.

 
Re: A game too far
Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
04 March, 2018 17:48
Now that game at Sandy Park may have been a game too far!!
The lads tried really hard but looked dead on their feet at end!
Time for 3 weeks much needed recouperation!
Just seems we arrive at this period every year trying to get a top two spot with minimal numbers!
Some light at end of tunnel could be Pests failure to get 5 against Irish....could prove costly for home semi



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