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Bath vs Exeter
Discussion started by Convex Hull , 23 March, 2018 20:47
Bath vs Exeter
Convex Hull 23 March, 2018 20:47
After 50 minutes I stopped watching and went back to writing test specifications for clients.

It is more fun.



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Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 23 March, 2018 20:59
I'm still watching it. A cure for insomnia, especially Exeter. Shame as I was looking forward to some decent club rugby after the 6N. It's just yet another slug fest.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
F-F-F-FEZ 24 March, 2018 00:29
Eeek - just returned from pub and assumed score indicated a close fought thriller......

Re: Bath vs Exeter
OldMarovian 24 March, 2018 07:02
Maybe it's just me be I don't get the antipathy towards how Exeter play especially as we hardly set the world alight for many, many seasons with our kicking game.

I thought it was a good game with Bath showing some real spirit and their forwards fronting up in a big way. When you see how often the maul and a multi-phase carrying game is disrupted at International level I think it's impressive how efficient the Chiefs game is.
Not a single starting forward except Francis with fewer than ten carries shows you the work rate that is put into maintaining that attacking stream.

I also thought it was huge credit to Baxter for starting Simmonds Jnr again in an important game in which he could have gone safe with Steenson. IMO there's much more to be learnt from Chiefs than disparaged.

In terms of positives, their game frequently broke down when it moved outside the central channel in attack (although that might improve with returning players like Nowell, Woodburn, Short, etc) they played incredibly flat and there was space in behind throughout the match that would invite the sort of chips through and over that Wiggle and Goode excel in. They were also surprisingly leaky in defence when Bath tried anything but running direct. The bad news is they're relentless and disciplined and you won't defend your way to a win over them which has been our default setting in too many games recently.

I hope we meet them again this season but also that we have learned a little about them rather than just sneered at the way they play.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 24 March, 2018 09:08
To be fair the game was salvaged as a spectacle by the final 10 minutes or so when Bath upped the pace.

Nothing against Exeter but my perception is that nearly all their tries are scored by grinding the ball over the line - as was inarguably the case last night. When you get a reputation it's hard to shake off, as we know all too well ourselves.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Convex Hull 24 March, 2018 12:30
I don't really want to learn on a Friday night. I want, at least, a degree of entertainment and there wasn't much to be seen.



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Re: Bath vs Exeter
4everchief 24 March, 2018 16:41
Hope your not watching the London game that's showing now....yaaaaaawn someone wake me when its over please.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
tpr's headmistress 24 March, 2018 16:51
There's an off button you know! T!t for tat comment is most unbecoming, especially from one of our well regarded 'other team' supporters. Of course there's always one 'bad apple. Perhaps 4evercheap would be a better handle.(Sm108)

(Note: T!t because the real word was not permitted.(Sm124))

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Convex Hull 24 March, 2018 16:53
I rodded the drains to the pond after the first half, today. Definitely more exciting than the rugby. smiling smiley



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Re: Bath vs Exeter
4everchief 24 March, 2018 17:09
Quote:
tpr's headmistress
There's an off button you know! T!t for tat comment is most unbecoming, especially from one of our well regarded 'other team' supporters. Of course there's always one 'bad apple. Perhaps 4evercheap would be a better handle.(Sm108)
(Note: T!t because the real word was not permitted.(Sm124))


Just stating a fact, not helped by the referee but a terrible advert for the game on the big stage.

Nothing wrong with a few bad apples either, makes a decent cider. smileys with beer

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Seany_Boy0511 25 March, 2018 11:52
How can anyone complain about how Exeter play.. they are leading the league by 7 or 8 points and nobody can seem to stop them.... Credit where it is due people it my not be pretty but it's winning rugby

Re: Bath vs Exeter
#wolfpack 25 March, 2018 12:24
When Exeter get within 5m of the try line, they score. If they get a line out within 10m of the try line, they score.

All they need to do is keep the ball by going through the phases (often illegally by sealing and going off their feet, but hey the refs don't care about that these days), wait for a penalty and then put it into the opposition 22.

They win so many games at the death because they have made the other side tackle themselves to a standstill.


It is very very effective in a premiership where their closest rivals (Wasps and us) are always decimated by injuries or international call ups, whereas they are relatively unaffected.

They will never win the European Cup playing like that because in Europe you play the French sides who are bigger, and the Celtic sides who are fresher and injury-free.

Hence why they haven't escaped their pool in the last few years (which is itself a contributing factor to why they do so well in the premiership).

Re: Bath vs Exeter
camerounfred 25 March, 2018 13:11
Quote:
#wolfpack

All they need to do is keep the ball by going through the phases (often illegally by sealing and going off their feet, but hey the refs don't care about that these days)

agreed. the refs only care about stopping a decent contest at the breakdown by the defence....and more significantly penalising marginally "high" tackles and binning players for the heinous crime of the deliberate knock-on, even in non threatening situations (ask Max)

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Roger G 25 March, 2018 13:42
Quote:
camerounfred
....binning players for the heinous crime of the deliberate knock-on, even in non threatening situations (ask Max)

I thought Max's card was wrong at the time as the ball clearly went backwards, but I've since read somewhere that it was classed a deliberate knock into touch which, if that's a yellow card offence, is fair enough.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 25 March, 2018 13:43
Quote:
4everchief
Nothing wrong with a few bad apples either, makes a decent cider. smileys with beer

More like sour grapes than rotten apples.

At least we scored two good tries which were run in rather than the by now ubiquitous Exeter grind fest.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
ouch!_that_hurts 25 March, 2018 16:08
Which were still only worth 5 points ............

Re: Bath vs Exeter
JO'G 25 March, 2018 19:32
Quote:
Roger G
Quote:
camerounfred
....binning players for the heinous crime of the deliberate knock-on, even in non threatening situations (ask Max)

I thought Max's card was wrong at the time as the ball clearly went backwards, but I've since read somewhere that it was classed a deliberate knock into touch which, if that's a yellow card offence, is fair enough.

Agree that's what it was for remember Brock James in the Clermont semi final (Jacques game)

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Convex Hull 25 March, 2018 20:39
Leicester vs Wasps was far more enjoyable, cracking match to watch.



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Re: Bath vs Exeter
Thomas Hawk 27 March, 2018 20:46
Quote:
GazzaFez
At least we scored two good tries which were run in rather than the by now ubiquitous Exeter grind fest.

It would appear that someone has a short memory GazzaFez as only a few weeks ago when Exeter beat...... err.... Saracens........ They did so without scoring a single try from a meter out following multiple phases of battering at the Saracens line.

In fact on that day one of those Chiefs scorers was a fullback if you can believe it.

Here let me remind you. (Sm151)


Re: Bath vs Exeter
Highbury Saracen 27 March, 2018 20:52
That was our second team! smiling smiley

Re: Bath vs Exeter
clalan 27 March, 2018 22:24
A rubbish pitch (Bath) makes rubbish rugby. Its hardly Chiefs fault England don't know there @#$%& from their elbow selection wise.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 27/03/2018 22:26 by clalan.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 28 March, 2018 01:47
Quote:
Tom A Hawk

In fact on that day one of those Chiefs scorers was a fullback if you can believe it.


One of those scorers? You mean the one and only scorer. Your other try was guess what, a grunt fest which was eventually awarded as a penalty try! Don't get carried away just yet; one Swallow doesn't make a Spring. This subject has obviously touched a raw nerve as there have been a lot of defensive comments from Exeter fans both on these SN forums and indeed on the BBC.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Thomas Hawk 28 March, 2018 06:11
Quote:
GazzaFez
Quote:
Tom A Hawk

In fact on that day one of those Chiefs scorers was a fullback if you can believe it.


Your other try was guess what, a grunt fest which was eventually awarded as a penalty try!

Its not Exeter's fault if the Saracens scrum can't stand up to the Power of the Chiefs and gives away penalty after penalty at scrum time is it?

Re: Bath vs Exeter
tpr's headmistress 28 March, 2018 07:56
For goodness sake guys, MY dad is much bigger than both of yours.(Sm108)

Re: Bath vs Exeter
TonyTaff 28 March, 2018 08:33
Quote:
tpr's headmistress
For goodness sake guys, MY dad is much bigger than both of yours.(Sm108)

Well said, Cariad!



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Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 28 March, 2018 15:51
Quote:
tpr's headmistress
For goodness sake guys, MY dad is much bigger than both of yours.(Sm108)

Oh my God!!! Don't tell me your dad is in the Exeter front row as well!!!

(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)(Sm22)





Sorry TPR - it was an open goal. Couldn't resist!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28/03/2018 16:28 by GazzaFez.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
tpr's headmistress 28 March, 2018 17:10
Yes, he is, complete with halo and wings (and the devil on his shoulder!).[:wor kid:]

Re: Bath vs Exeter
GazzaFez 28 March, 2018 17:46
Quote:
tpr's headmistress
Yes, he is, complete with halo and wings (and the devil on his shoulder!).[:wor kid:]

Yes I thought that was probably the case, but it doesn't sound quite right if you say 'my dad was bigger than yours' (Sm29) Perhaps he could interfere with a few lineout throws or trip up the odd player for us this weekend! I have a feeling every bit of help will be needed.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
tpr's headmistress 28 March, 2018 20:26
I'll dig the old Ouija board out and have a word.(Sm124)

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Thomas Hawk 29 March, 2018 06:07
Kinda amused at the direction my retort has gone. While my last response was a little on the juvenile side, The overall point remains that Exeter's tries didn't come from grind fests, But was actually from Saracens being unable to stand up to the Exeter pack. Again that says more about Saracens inability to stand up to it, Than Exeters ability to inflict it. It wasn't Exeter who committed the repeated infringements that lead to the penalty try after all.

Call Exeter boring all you want, But it is kind of ironic that the same was and is sometimes said of Sarries. So I would have thought you guys would understand that sometimes winning isn't pretty... Guess not.

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Highbury Saracen 29 March, 2018 07:57
Our scrum is not good at moment but we have been without Billy V Michael Rhodes Vincent Koch most of season......during internationals add Jamie George Mako George Kruis Maro Itoje and occasionally Isiekwe
I think most people would agree thats quite a large percentage of our scrum!!
It doesnt bother me how Chiefs win games or how they play I just want Saracens to play well & get back to full strength for run in!
If we lose in Dublin I think we will be a different proposition in play offs this season



European champions 2016 & 2017

Re: Bath vs Exeter
Convex Hull 29 March, 2018 08:27
There was a time when Leicester always scored when they had possession close to the line and it was painful to watch.

Then there was a few years when that feature of the game was present, but not so dominant, which was generally more fun to watch (although Sarries were worst offenders in aerial ping-pong style).

Now we are back to trundling in the red zone, and it is still just as boring as it was before Exeter was even in the Premiership.

I don't know if it is down to changes in the laws, I will leave that judgement down those more knowledgeable than me about rugby.



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