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Season Tickets
Paulr58 (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 12:23
Looks like the prices are correct. Just looked in my account just now under reserved tickets and my new price for my season ticket is £1030. My gold seat is now platinum.
Where is the Honesty decency and respect for the supporters !!!!!, this has been done in a very underhand and disrespectful way. The renewing of the season tickets has been delayed by over a month, I suspect to try and avoid as much protest as possible. I hope all the supports affected will contact the Chief Executive and Chairman to register their feelings at such an unjustifiable rise in price.



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Rolls (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 12:28
Still no email, guess Iíll have to go to Allianz, not optimistic for next year.

 
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Eurosarrie (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 12:41
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Paulr58
Looks like the prices are correct. Looked in my account just now under reserved tickets and my new price for my season ticket is £1030. My gold seat is now platinum.
Mine too. 2017-2018 same seat was £660.00 and designated "gold"; 2018-2019 same seat is confirmed in My Account to be £1,030.00 and changed to "platinum". A cool 56% increase on last year! Pretty outrageous way to be "asked" to continue a long standing (13 years so far) STH support of the club (simple update seat cost/ designation on your Account page)!!

 
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Eurosarrie (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 12:45
My maths has evaded my i'm so disgusted. I've been a STH for over 17 years!

 
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whyisitnevereasy (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 13:32
Wow..... row G E2 east stand must be the last row for silver in the east stand. Gone up from 440 to 475 . Find this price so bitter sweet. Not even 10 per cent for me, why not make it 10 - 15 percent across the board . Can't believe the club can just turn a blind eye and let life long supporters like innings for one of many just be hung out to dry with the washing. A sad day.



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Wayoutwest (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 13:46
Yep....I can't believe it I have had no email confirmation explaining why this is being done from the CEO? It honestly would not take much to do and would go along way to smoothing the situation.

So much for the Sarries famly values. Obviously does not extend to the longstanding season ticket holders.

I will renew, this year. However a chunk of goodwill has gone. I will remember this for a long time...

 
Re: Season Tickets
Waldo (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:17
The email has arrived !

The business end of the 2017/18 season is fast approaching and while we know there are still some huge fixtures coming up it is also now time to look ahead and renew your membership for the 2018/19 season to secure your seats at Allianz Park.

As a club we understand that the changes communicated last week to you will have come as a surprise and, as we launch renewals for the 18/19 season, we wanted to ensure that all supporters are fully informed about the reasons behind these changes.

Over the last five years at Allianz Park we have seen support for Saracens grow. This has been wonderful for the club but it has also created scarcity, particularly in the East Stand where the best seats in the stadium are located and where demand is highest. In response to this, and with the future of our club firmly in mind, approximately 25% of seats in the East Stand will be recatorgorised for the 2018/19 season.

These changes are part of our commitment to develop our facilities, ensure that Saracens maintains its place at the top of European rugby and provide the best match day experience for every fan.

As part of the changes to seat prices we have taken steps to acknowledge that there may be a price increase associated to the seat you currently have. Any season ticket holders affected by recatorgisation will be entitled to renew their seat on Direct Debit at 0%, without being affected by the Direct Debit surcharge, and there will also be concession prices available for this season in all recategorised seats, including Gold.

As ever, there are a number of options available to you, both in terms of seating and payment structures, so if you would like to discuss this further with a member of the Supporter Services team please contact us on 0203 675 7200 or by emailing supporterservices@saracens.net.

A season ticket is still the best way to come together and support your team, with a considerable saving per game compared to match by match prices and we very much hope to be able to welcome you back to the stands at Allianz Park for the new season in September.

 
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#wolfpack (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:17
I am up 40% but my tickets were cheap to begin with, so am renewing on the basis that:

1) I think I was paying under-market for what I was seeing, and I am now paying around about market prices

2) I accept the point that the club needs more income to thrive and be successful, and some of the burden should be spread rather than simply fall upon Nigel Wray.


HOWEVER

As I said, I now think I am paying around about market price at circa £30 a game where I'll get damp if it rains.

The expectation that people should pay 2x, 2.5x or 3x that to watch Saracens vs Worcester on a drizzly Saturday evening is a nonsense. If you're paying for a family, the sudden increase becomes entirely unaffordable. If the club wanted to make more money out of those sitting in the East, they should have made contingencies like expanding the North / South dramatically so that those who wanted to move could move (and moving to the West in its current state is not really an option). I sympathise and agree with the disappointment and anger of those who have followed the club for years, suddenly to be priced out and hope the club are doing something to rectify this.

 
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MarchingIn (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:30
Saint in peace... we have had our season tickets reclassified as well, but the club has also allowed existing ticket holders to renew at the previously classified rate this time if purchased by the end of May - I am not sure how long that will persist though. It seems a bit unfair you aren't being given the same opportunity.

Had this not been the case we would have simply changed position. It is unfortunate that fans often need to vote with their feet to get a message to the premiership clubs. If everybody in the reclassified blocks moved to cheaper ones, surely they will end up having to discount the platinum ones to sell them as few clubs hit their full ground capacity regularly?

 
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Eurosarrie (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:31
Waldo, any idea what the ".. concession prices.." are proposed (from Gold to Platinum)?

 
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Waldo (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:45
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Eurosarrie
Waldo, any idea what the ".. concession prices.." are proposed (from Gold to Platinum)?

I'm afraid not - It only gives the price for my current seat, and that phrase " there will also be concession prices available for this season in all recategorised seats, including Gold. " is very ambiguous.

Do they mean the old Gold (now platinum) or the new Gold (that was silver ) ? ie concessions only available up to new gold level or including the new platinum level ?

 
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BigBri (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:50
I have cancelled my season ticket renewal as well out of principle at the 56% rinsing of loyal fans. I have supported Sarries since 1972 as a mini and will now attend as and when I think we have a team out on the pitch like yesterday. No AW games no games with half teams during Internationals. I will spend my money on games that I think that are value for money.

So much for Fezboys 21st Birthday this season and the naming of another bar in our name.

I am and always will be grateful to Nigel for giving us these memories and his investment but this is a step too far for me. If he had asked for an Investment from Supporters I would have contributed and felt part of the club I support but this is pay up or do one attitude has finished it for me.

I have agonised and had many sleepless nights over this and there was a chat of a transitional season but clearly that scarcity has won the argument. Let's hope and I am genuine in this, that we do not have a rough patch where the supply is suddenly much higher than the demand and we see emptier stands.



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Eurosarrie (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 14:55
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Eurosarrie
Waldo, any idea what the ".. concession prices.." are proposed (from Gold to Platinum)?

I'm afraid not - It only gives the price for my current seat, and that phrase " there will also be concession prices available for this season in all recategorised seats, including Gold. " is very ambiguous.

Do they mean the old Gold (now platinum) or the new Gold (that was silver ) ? ie concessions only available up to new gold level or including the new platinum level ?

Thanks Waldo.
I've now got the email too and have replied to SSS to ask about the "..concession prices.." available. Needless to say, the phone line is very busy!
Watch this space.

 
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Roger G (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 15:00
The way I read it was the gold concession was only for holders of silver concessions who had been re-classified as gold, and only for one year. I don't think gold normally has concessionary prices.

 
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WaspieKev (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 15:01
Wasps fan in peace.

This is all too familiar. Our seats at Adams park were re-categorised a couple of years before we moved up to the Ricoh. Although the resultant increase in prices were held for the first couple of years up in Cov they eventually went up quite substantially but early-bird renewals were still discounted. Now, the early-bird price is face value with no discount, just a promise of losing your seat if you fail to renew before the cut-off date. They've also changed the age limit for seniors and brought it down to 60 from 65 this season. Still think we get good value for money though at around £550 for a half way line seat, in the dry too, but I really sympathise with you all as that is a shocking hike in price you're now being expected to pay. Will possibly drive families away, which will be a real shame. Good luck for the rest of the season, unless we end up playing you of course!

 
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GazzaFez (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 15:02
Re. concession prices.

First up the fear that the concessions would be available for this season only are true then.
Reclassified Silver to Gold U24 tickets go from £170 to £400 (counted as a new concession!) this year and then up to full adult price of £700 (plus whatever the rise is next year) when the concession no longer applies at all. That's a whopping 300% + rise in just over a year!

It's this reduced concession this year followed by complete loss of concession next year which is the most damaging. My own seat is up about 50% but my total bill for seats I pay for is up an eye watering 78% this year alone!

So much for the "don't worry it will all be explained on Monday" email.

Still not decided.

 
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ninjafez (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 15:36
would love to ask everyone to come join us in the North but were pretty full already! its a shame but completly understand everyones posison

just hoping it goes better afterwards then lets say northans that due to 'on field' product arent able to whield their increased capacity they have had to pay for.



Ninjafez - supporting Sarries and cleaning their signs since 2006!

 
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TV (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 16:01
My seat and RobV's have been reclassified from silver to gold.
I receive a concession and will be able to pay £400 this year up from £360 but for one year only. RobV will have to pay £705 up from £450 if we continue which is not decided yet.
The whole process has been badly handled. I think a major change such as this should have had 12 months notice plus an opportunity to discuss at a fans forum. Did we not have a grace period following our move from Watford where the increases were staged over a couple of seasons or is my old memory playing tricks? This would have been a more equitable arrangement.

 
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MarchingIn (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 16:39
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just hoping it goes better afterwards then lets say northans that due to 'on field' product arent able to whield their increased capacity they have had to pay for.

The plans I've read to replace your West Stand give you a roof but no more seats? Is there any plan to go bigger?

Saints didn't fill the ground every game before the new stand was built when we were top of the table. One reason other than "bad product" that games have seen lower attendances is that the club had to promise to stop offering discount tickets that were cheaper than the averaged season ticket rate per game in order to placate some very vocal (selfish and short sighted in my view) ST holders - they were doing promotions to fill Friday and Anglo-Welsh games at the lower capacity when we still had "good product". I love Friday night matches but they are an economic nightmare for the club.

 
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Roger G (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 16:51
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MarchingIn
The plans I've read to replace your West Stand give you a roof but no more seats? Is there any plan to go bigger?

The new stand will not only give the West a roof, but also seats with width and leg room for more than a midget or child, and 500 more of them.

 
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Glumbumble (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 18:53
My reply to Saracens Email.

I have to say that I am extremely disappointed by the contents of your email.
I have been a season ticket holder for over 20 years.
I have had to endure the taking of our club room, at Vicarage Road, so that the wealthy could have more room to eat before the match.
I have had my "consessionary" status removed.
I have tried to keep pace with the annual price increase from within my pension and had again planned for this.
I had not suspected that you would price me out of my seat of twenty years to allow the toffs to take it over.
Out of respect for those who have supported the club, through thick and thin, for so many years I would have thought that you could have redesignated seats in our area as seats become available.
Obviously we are thought of as well as potential rich supporters.
I will not be pushed down through the qualities of seating, because I have to live on a pension, to ultimately end up in a paupers enclave.
I will not be renewing my season ticket this year and regret that I leave the club that I have supported for so long with such bitter feelings of rejection and exclusion.
Glen Baker

 
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Mac L (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 19:22
My seat has not been 'upgraded' thankfully, I'm too close to the pitch, but even so it has gone up from £640 to £700, greater than inflation.

 
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fleetg (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 20:32
Don't be sad BigBri come and join us at Franklins Gardens next season ....... that will really finish you off Sir !!!!!

 
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Surbiton Sarries (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 20:41
My north stand ST has only gone up by about 15 quid as far as I can tell, so I expect I shall swallow this, especially as I shall qualify for senior rate for the following season.

 
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mrangry (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:36
Surprised that some are not getting concessions, as my Silver to Gold reclassification went up to £705.I was going to cancel, but had a whopping £305 age concession, bringing the cost to a very reasonable £400. Somewhere the club does have a heart, and perhaps it will take note of our concerns. I do believe that we ought to make our feelings known, as Glumbumble has stated so well, regardless of whether we renew or not, to show why we are worried. A round robin perhaps that we can sign at the Bristol match?

 
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Lucysarrie (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:37
we have seats in E1 bronze now silver and has jumped up £140 each unfortunately I can't afford the increase in my job I had accounted for 10% to 15% but 40% prices me out by the time I add in parking. Where are Bronze moved to ...now the West stand with no coverconfused smiley . I have rung and left a message waiting for call back hopefully we can move to North or South Stands otherwise I fear we will not be renewing after 10 years . Fingers crossed but not holding my breathe.

 
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Old Curmudgeon (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 07:31
Although not unexpected, the scale and style of this increase is beyond disappointing.

Our tickets have increased by 60% and not through any re-grading; we are in the cheap seats of the North Stand and the rise to £300 although a jolt would still be good value but for the double header and the hell ride to West Ham United.

I/we have to remember that much as many of us have been involved with Saracens since before many of those in charge were out of short trousers, unfortunately it is now as ever out of our control. The hard fact is that if we wonít pay some one else will and the email does not shy away from telling us this.

The moving goalposts are however a serious concern. The re-categorisation of seats is insensitive to say the least and must be hugely distressing plus the club has now raised the age of being a senior citizen to 66!

As yet no news on the disabled parking cost which will no doubt be a kick in the teeth or more likely somewhere much lower.

In the past we have paid for our tickets up front to get the money into the club asap; this year, and only as a matter of principle we will be paying by direct debit, we will not be renewing our Alpha membership and visits to the shop will be curtailed.

This will balance the books to bring the increase in our contribution to Saracens in line with that of inflation! The Lord giveth and the disgruntled taketh away.

No doubt we will not be missed but there is only so much urine that can be extracted at one visit.

The only way that I can see this culture reversing is should Sarries fortunes on the pitch suffer an enormous turn around and that is something that I do not wish to see.

If only the administration were as talented and professional as the players this would have been handled so much better.

Then there is the shop website...

 
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Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:04
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Lucysarrie
we have seats in E1 bronze now silver and has jumped up £140 each unfortunately I can't afford the increase in my job I had accounted for 10% to 15% but 40% prices me out by the time I add in parking. Where are Bronze moved to ...now the West stand with no coverconfused smiley . I have rung and left a message waiting for call back hopefully we can move to North or South Stands otherwise I fear we will not be renewing after 10 years . Fingers crossed but not holding my breathe.

Dont wait too long Lucysarrie!
We are not happy about changes in seat prices either but if you want to move to a cheaper seat there wont be too many on offer!
Call Julie Cherrington at club 0203 675 7224



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Dave Berko (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:16
Hi. Didnt renew this season through known other commitments. However would like to for next season. Does my many years 15+ of being STH count for nothing as had a season break? Tried phoning but 'lines busy'.

 
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Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:22
Weíve done 21 seasons Dave & loyalty aspect has no bearing on anything Iím afraid we have ended up with worse seats for little increase in price



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Roger G (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:41
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Highbury Saracen
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Lucysarrie
we have seats in E1 bronze now silver and has jumped up £140 each unfortunately I can't afford the increase in my job I had accounted for 10% to 15% but 40% prices me out by the time I add in parking. Where are Bronze moved to ...now the West stand with no coverconfused smiley . I have rung and left a message waiting for call back hopefully we can move to North or South Stands otherwise I fear we will not be renewing after 10 years . Fingers crossed but not holding my breathe.

Dont wait too long Lucysarrie!
We are not happy about changes in seat prices either but if you want to move to a cheaper seat there wont be too many on offer!
Call Julie Cherrington at club 0203 675 7224

No reflection on HS or Lucysarrie, but this illustrates part of the problem. Those whose seats have been selected for "re-categorisation" are not only facing a difficult choice about whether to stay, cancel or move, but those who choose to move are now in competition with each other to get the best re-located seats they can, whether they are dropping a grade or moving to other seats re-categorised into their current grade. If choosing to stay in the same grade and move, as I am, it's pretty obvious that the best remaining seats in my grade are going to be those that haven't been re-categorised, and their incumbents are the least likely to be moving or cancelling, so I'm expecting to have to pay more for seats much further from the action/centre line than I currently am.

I'm told the powers that be realise they've cocked-up but this isn't the first time they've done this and they clearly haven't learnt the lessons of the past. The distress this has caused was entirely predictable, and therefore to some extent avoidable.

 
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Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:46
Yes thats correct Roger G
Although a friend of mine has swapped E8 for E3 seats on an aisle so his money has at least got him s better view!
I think he will be one of the few who comes out of this better off
As you say we are in direct competition with each other sad smiley
Had we announced this two months ago we couldíve helped people to relocate



European champions 2016 & 2017

 
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Flyboyjacko (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:53
Just like everyone else here, Iím appalled at what Saracens have done to their loyal supporters, Iíve been a season ticket holder since the early Vicarage Road years and feel Iím being forced out of the club.
Last time round we had a massive hike in prices and now they have the nerve to hit us with this, itís as if they really donít care one bit about the supporters at all. If I could afford a Gold price ticket donít they think I would have had one already! The entire Honesty, Integrity, etc etc is so hypocritical. I love my club and I thought Iíd have these seats till the day I die, Saracens obviously have different ideas on what loyal support is and all they are interested in is your cash NOT your support. My wife and kids are happy to make the rest up as birthday and Christmas presents which is fine but what will they do to us next year or the year after that? I have no trust in the club management whatsoever anymore which is sad. I donít want to renew out of principle but then I love the club and still want to see themÖÖ.

 
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1876-Fez (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 09:19
Another thing to consider is that there MAY BE more seats available after the ST renewal date cut off, as others for various reasons in other parts of the ground do not renew....



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Re: Season Tickets
primavesi (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 09:37
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Old Curmudgeon
The hard fact is that if we wonít pay some one else will and the email does not shy away from telling us this.

Iīm not sure you know. Is our support really as strong as the club imagines? Who are these thousands of people clamoring to buy expensive east stand season tickets and more importantly, will they stick around when the team is not winning?

To be honest I think a few sellouts have gone to their head and they will end up getting stung. It will be interesting to see what the east stand looks like next season for non glamour games. Half empty would be my guess.

As others have said, by far the most sensible forward thinking option would have been to try to consolidate the support until the west stand was completed and then they could have increased the gold seating provision while still offering a good quality silver product.

 
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Flyboyjacko (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 09:43
I agree they could have expanded the temporary seating at the ends like they did for the European game and moved the West stand to those seats as a temporary measure for the season at a concession price and then moved them back once the new stand is built

 
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Duncan96 (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 10:07
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Flyboyjacko
I agree they could have expanded the temporary seating at the ends like they did for the European game and moved the West stand to those seats as a temporary measure for the season at a concession price and then moved them back once the new stand is built

That would have been good but there is only planning permission at present to play 1 game per season at more than 10,000 capacity. It goes up to 10,500 with the new stand. Let's hope we get permission for 15,000 all season once that's done

 
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Eif Jones (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 10:19
When you get idiots voting through unaffordable increases in salary cap then somebody has to pay, almost certainly the supporters. Unsurprisingly, the increased salary cap has done nothing to improve the standard out on the field. This is probably a season that the AP clubs will want to forget, as demonstrated by some sub standard Euro Champions performances. Some English clubs challenging the traditionally poor results of the Italian clubs.

 
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TOKS (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 11:11
Well at least you're not having a pop at one or two clubs, Eif, as the vote to increase the salary cap was unanimous.

That's a lot of "idiots".

 
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daz_71 (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 11:38
Next season will be my 10th as a season ticket holder and my seat in E2 has been reclassified, as many others from Silver - £450 to Gold - £705. I will be renewing this time but the entire scenario has soured my feelings towards the club. The entire way it has been handled is amateurish at best.

What angers me is the season ticket isn't for a season at AP. We will still have to suffer a trip to Wembely or worse still that sh!tehole London Stadium. Will Saracens pay for our additional parking and travel to said sh!tehole? Of course not.

As others have said I sincerly hope our cycle of success doesn't come to an end soon. As Mr Wray may just end up with an empty stadium.

Thanks for your "Honesty" in all of this Saracens!

 
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Flyboyjacko (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 11:50
I'm not proposing to increase the capacity (although that really needs to happen) just make the North and South stands bigger to accommodate the peeps in the west stand until it's redeveloped.
That brings me to another point..... why oh why did we ever agree to build a stadium in an area where we could only have 10,000 capacity????? Where was the forward thinking in that?
That's probably half the problem.... We can't have more people because of the rubbish choice in venue, to offset the money lost in supporters revenue we're having to foot the bill.

 
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Waldo (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 12:07
The reasoning was probably - we'll go in @ 10K and the locals will see what a nice bunch we are and let us increase no problem .

 
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Innings (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 12:24
I've no idea what the necessary capacity for a viable business may be, but I'm certain it isn't 10,000 or 10,500. When / if the new stand is built to deliver the extra 500 , there will have been an average capacity increase of fewer than 100 seats per year, so far. If the ideal capacity is 20,000, the current projected rate of progress suggests reaching viability in the year 2208. Things may have changed a bit by then.



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Duncan96 (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 12:37
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Waldo
The reasoning was probably - we'll go in @ 10K and the locals will see what a nice bunch we are and let us increase no problem .

That was definitely the logic. Hopefully this season we'll have a home semi at 15k capacity for the 2nd time. Local residents and the Council will see it's no problem and 15k becomes the norm

All of that assumes, of course, that we can sell 10k per game without Nigel Wray subsidising all of our season tickets to the tune of £250 to £500 per season. We might not be able to since some people say they are not renewing without the subsidy, even though they could afford to, because they see the removal of the subsidy as a betrayal of their long held support.

If there are a significant number of like minded supporters there won't be a new stand or training ground, the club can't go forward and the inevitable will happen. Nigel Wray will die, the star players will be tempted away to other clubs which are progressing and Saracens will slip back.

I wouldn't want to be the one being forced to drive through these difficult decisions and being accused of "gouging" supporters.

PS I think the subsidy we have all been receiving is easy to calculate. If the club loses £2.5 million in a season just divide that by the number of seats -10,000. In previous years the loss has been as high as £5 million so our subsidy was £500 per season ticket

PPS I know I'm being a little provocative and I totally understand that some can't afford the price rises. But seriously, we have been subsidises and it had to end at some point. With Nw's funding partner bailing out and the need to raise £30 million it's no wonder that time is now

 
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daz_71 (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 12:54
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Duncan96
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Waldo
The reasoning was probably - we'll go in @ 10K and the locals will see what a nice bunch we are and let us increase no problem .

That was definitely the logic. Hopefully this season we'll have a home semi at 15k capacity for the 2nd time. Local residents and the Council will see it's no problem and 15k becomes the norm

All of that assumes, of course, that we can sell 10k per game without Nigel Wray subsidising all of our season tickets to the tune of £250 to £500 per season. We might not be able to since some people say they are not renewing without the subsidy, even though they could afford to, because they see the removal of the subsidy as a betrayal of their long held support.

If there are a significant number of like minded supporters there won't be a new stand or training ground, the club can't go forward and the inevitable will happen. Nigel Wray will die, the star players will be tempted away to other clubs which are progressing and Saracens will slip back.

I wouldn't want to be the one being forced to drive through these difficult decisions and being accused of "gouging" supporters.

PS I think the subsidy we have all been receiving is easy to calculate. If the club loses £2.5 million in a season just divide that by the number of seats -10,000. In previous years the loss has been as high as £5 million so our subsidy was £500 per season ticket

PPS I know I'm being a little provocative and I totally understand that some can't afford the price rises. But seriously, we have been subsidises and it had to end at some point. With Nw's funding partner bailing out and the need to raise £30 million it's no wonder that time is now

I get your point about being subsidised and I'm not going to argue that you can look at it that way. However each seat is a commodity that has a price attached to it. With some of those seats being fairly much on the 5 metre line being now classified as gold means the commodity is being overpriced - I don't believe any other clubs have tickets classified as gold in such areas. Now the club can get away with this while they are being successful but success is often cyclic. What happend when/if the current cycle of success comes to an end?

The email that came out suggests there is a waiting list to get a seat in the East Stand. Does anyone believe that to be true? I'd imagine those that want seats in the East are probably currently in the West getting wet but will they be happy to move for such an increase in price?

And if we are blaming the increase on our turnover then again Nigel has to take some of the blame. He's the one who was pushing for the salary cap to go up.

 
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1876-Fez (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 13:11
Talk of '000's waiting to buy the ST's.... Hmmm from what I understand it is only around 400-500 seats re classified. .. some of those have/will renew.

Still not nice for those involved though.



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daz_71 (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 13:25
It must be more that 400-500 surely? Isn't it all of blocks E2 and E7 beyond row G being reclassificed from Silver to Gold and most of the middle 2 blockes being reclassified from Gold to Platinum? That would make it around 50% of the East stand.

 
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Roger G (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 13:37
Can't remember where I've seen it, but I think it's 25% of the East Stand being affected which IIRC is about 1000 seats having a major price hike (I don't buy this re-categorised - that's just marketing BS).



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Harrow Sarrie (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 13:58
There is definitely more going on Roger.

We sit in the lower West and whilst we haven't been reclassified (still Silver) my son's junior ticket is now £285 up from £170, a 68% increase... Whilst I will likely swallow that for now, a fellow STH and his son, who we only recruited a season or two ago, has decided that is unfortunately too much for them.

 
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Lucysarrie (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 14:52
Thank you Highbury Julie rang me back we are now South standers

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