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League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:36
May I encourage you to predict how the end of season table will look? If a dozen or more are interested, after each round I'll post how we're all doing against the current table (using Spearman's Rho – see below). Winner gets to buy me a pint of Wolfpack!

Please make your prediction by giving a string of the numbers 1-12 representing the position in which you think each club (in alphabetical order) will finish, followed by the result of the final. (This format will help me when transferring your prediction). For example, my guess is:

3,11,1,5,10,6,9,8,7,4,2,12
Sarries beat Wasps


- I predict Bath will finish 3rd, Bristol 11th, Exeter 1st, … and Wasps will be beaten finalists. IT'S JUST FOR FUN!

Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens,
Wasps, Worcester

One entry per poster by 12:00 BST on 30 August please. If you make a mistake or change your mind please amend your original post at any time until the above - later changes/further entries will be ignored. Guests are warmly invited to join in.


[Spearman's Rho provides a measure of the correlation between two sets of ranked (i.e. ordered, not measured) data, given as a coefficient between 1 and -1. A value of 1 indicates perfect agreement, 0 none, -1 the totally reversed order. At the moment my prediction gives a (meaningless) coefficient of 0.161 against the current alphabetical league table.]

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:37
3,11,1,5,10,6,9,8,7,4,2,12
Sarries beat Wasps

 
Re: League Table Predictions
The Bard (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:42
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19/08/2018 19:44 by The Bard.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Waldo (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:50
6,11,1,5,7,4,8,9,10,3,2,12 Sarries beat Leicester

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 19:17
6, 11, 2, 4, 10, 7, 8, 9, 5, 1, 3, 12

Sarries to best Exeter in the final

 
Re: League Table Predictions
maynas (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 20:22
OK here goes
6,11,2,9,10,3,5,8,7,1,4,12

 
Re: League Table Predictions
vunipolae (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 22:21
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens,
Wasps, Worcester

5, 10, 1, 3, 11, 7, 8, 9, 6, 2, 4, 12

Sarries beat Wasps

 
Re: League Table Predictions
whyisitnevereasy (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 01:06
5, 11, 3, 6, 10, 4, 7, 9, 8, 2,1,12
Sarries beat Wasps



The ship may now enter harbour negative oilskins

 
Re: League Table Predictions
BathMatt53 (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 08:44
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, Worcester

5, 11, 2, 7, 10, 4, 8, 9, 6, 1, 3, 12

Final a repeat of last year, Sarries to beat exe.



[Adoptee 18/19: Man Mountain Dave Attwood, back in the BB&W and ready to smash]

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Broken Record (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 10:40
[quote Sara'sman]May I encourage you to predict how the end of season table will look? If a dozen or more are interested, after each round I'll post how we're all doing against the current table (using Spearman's Rho – see below). Winner gets to buy me a pint of Wolfpack!

Please make your prediction by giving a string of the numbers 1-12 representing the position in which you think each club (in alphabetical order) will finish, followed by the result of the final. (This format will help me when transferring your prediction). For example, my guess is:

3,11,1,5,10,6,9,8,7,4,2,12
Sarries beat Wasps


- I predict Bath will finish 3rd, Bristol 11th, Exeter 1st, … and Wasps will be beaten finalists. IT'S JUST FOR FUN!

Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens,
Wasps, Worcester

One entry per poster by 12:00 BST on 30 August please. If you make a mistake or change your mind please amend your original post at any time until the above - later changes/further entries will be ignored. Guests are warmly invited to join in.

Am I having a 'senior moment' or just missing this completely: how can Sarries beat Wasps in the final if they finish out of the top 4 (and hence wouldn't qualify for the play-offs)as predicted above??

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 10:59
Senior moment I think! My prediction is Sarries 4th, Wasps 2nd, Wuss 12th. Now for your predictions please BR.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Barty II (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 12:48
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, Worcester

10, 11, 3, 4, 9, 5, 6, 8, 7, 2, 1, 12
Sarries beat wasps

 
Re: League Table Predictions
tigerburnie (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 13:42
6,12,2,10,11,4,5,8,9,7,1,3 or maybe something totally different after watching 3 or 4 games.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Roger G (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 15:58
7,11,1,9,5,4,6,10,8,2,3,12
Sarries beat Exeter

Not sure everybody's grasped the format (or maybe I haven't) because several (apart from Saras'sman) seem to have predicted a Sarries win in the final without them finishing in the top 4.

Edit: Ahh....I hadn't figured out the format but have now....I think/hope.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/08/2018 18:06 by Roger G.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Gryff (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 16:15
9,8,2,4,11,6,5,10,7,1,3,12

Sarries beat Wasps in final

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sully08 (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 16:23
Amended:
Barf...8
Briz...11
Extur..4
Glou..9
Quins 6
Tigers..3
Falcons..7
Sinners..10
Sale..5
Sarries.1
Pests..2
Wuss..12

Sarries to beat Leicester in final



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 22/08/2018 07:21 by Sully08.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Maroon Tyke (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 16:29
8,11,1,3,10,4,6,9,7,2,5,12

Sarries beat Exeter



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 23/08/2018 08:48 by Maroon Tyke.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
mfc (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 17:38
Figured out the format



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/08/2018 17:43 by mfc.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 18:23
Entering Data

Firstly, thanks to all those who have entered.

It is clear that I've not explained the format very well - quite a few have Sarries winning after coming 7/8th. I can't work out what you're all reading that I've not meant, but it is already 5+ of you so I'll try to be clearer.

The last 4 teams alphabetically are … Sale, Saracens, Wasps, Worcester.
So your last 4 numbers represent these 4 teams in order - ending 2,7,3,11 for example means:
2 - Sale
7 - Saracens
3 - Wasps
11 - Wuss

Please amend your original post if you wish to correct it.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
tigerburnie (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 18:52
Quote:
tigerburnie
6,12,2,10,11,4,5,8,9,7,1,3 or maybe something totally different after watching 3 or 4 games.
Seems I missed the tie breaker
Sarries v Tigers in one semi with Tigers winning
Ex v Waspies in tother semi with Ex winning and the final will be won by (cough cough), Tigers, gonna have a lie down in a darkened room now.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 18:57
Quote:
tigerburnie
Quote:
tigerburnie
6,12,2,10,11,4,5,8,9,7,1,3 or maybe something totally different after watching 3 or 4 games.
Seems I missed the tie breaker
Sarries v Tigers in one semi with Tigers winning
Ex v Waspies in tother semi with Ex winning and the final will be won by (cough cough), Tigers, gonna have a lie down in a darkened room now.

Except you've got Worcester 3rd, Sarries 7th yet in the final.

May I suggest that those struggling with my format:

1. Copy on paper the 12 teams in alphabetical order (see my list in the first post!)
2. Underneath each team write the position you think they'll finish
3, Enter the 12 numbers in the order they're written down
4. Complete with the result of the final


Hope this helps.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 20/08/2018 19:06 by Sara'sman.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
tigerburnie (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 08:42
Arghh, missed Wuss off the end, I will be back...……….doh

 
Re: League Table Predictions
tigerburnie (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 08:50
Barf...6
Briz...12
Extur..2
Glaws..10
Quinns..11
Tigers..4
Falcons..5
Sinners..8
Sale..7
Sarries.1.
Pests..3
Wuss..9
and optimistically Tigers beat Ex in the final...……………...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/08/2018 08:51 by tigerburnie.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 09:24
To give you an idea of what you can look forward to, here is a table of the correlation of your prediction with "Old Codger's":

0.958 Waldo
0.951 whyisitnevereasy
0.916 BathMatt53
0.888 maynas
0.881 Barty II
0.867 Sara'sman
0.867 Bath Hammer
0.860 vunipolae
0.846 Roger G
0.846 Gryff
0.818 tigerburnie
0.510 Maroon Tyke
-0.098 Sully08

Maroon Tyke and Sully08 - your entries contain errors I think, please correct them and I'll amend my spreadsheet. It may help to copy tigerburnie's method above if anyone is unsure.

I don't like this new bold format!

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Waldo (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 10:06
Does that mean I'm winning ? (Sm14)

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Maroon Tyke (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 13:51
Quote:
Sara'sman

Maroon Tyke - your entries contain errors I think, please correct them and I'll amend my spreadsheet.
Thanks. Done.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 14:13
Quote:
Waldo
Does that mean I'm winning ? (Sm14)

It certainly means you're the closest to "Old Codger".

Maroon Tyke - makes much more sense - your coefficient is now 0.685, your lack of faith in Bath and Glaws together with backing Falcons relative to OC is costing you!

Still time to enter folks - the more the merrier. Bard/mfc/BR/DG/TT/ano...

 
Re: League Table Predictions
JO'G (IP Logged)
21 August, 2018 16:30
3,10,11,1,6,4,8,7,5,9,12,2

aha - i did team to come 1st, 2nd ...

revised to

4,12,1,5,7,6,9,10,8,2,3,11
Sarries beat Exeter



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 25/08/2018 16:09 by JO'G .

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 10:09
One interesting aspect of this is seeing which club’s supporters have responded. I sense that those supporting Sarrries, Exeter & maybe to a lesser extent Wasps are wary of tempting fate. The would wish to say & expect nothing less than to win the league & final but don’t wish to be considered arrogant. Those of us with more humble aspirations are happier to commit whilst always retaining a secret hope we can do a Leicester or an Essex.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 13:40
Sully08 - much better! Your coefficient against OC is now 0.825.

A few requests:
JO'G please check your numbers against an alphabetical list. I think you've made an error or two. Use tigerburnie's format - it seems clearer to many.

The Bard as the first to respond (and pick up on my unclear format) I hope you'll enter. mfc too.

Be good to get the numbers up to an interesting and manageable 25 or so guys/guyesses!

 
Re: League Table Predictions
duchessmalfi (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 14:30
Interesting idea! Here's my stab at it...hopefully I've figured it out correctly.

5,11,3,7,8,2,6,9,10,1,4,12
Saracens beat Tigers

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Duncan Keene (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 15:16
7,12,2,5,11,3,9,8,6,1,4,10
Sarries beat Exeter


Really hope i am wrong on many levels as it's getting too samey. Think Bristol will put up a good fight but still struggle to predict anyone below them. Think several clubs (Bath, Glaws, Leicester, Northampton, Quins, Sale, Newcastle) have conceivable ranges right from the top to the bottom.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 16:32
I fear that the reference to Spearmint Rhino at the top, addled the brains of many male contributors! Hic.

I'll be back later with my predictions. Hic!



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Please read and submit articles for publication. (*) As at October 31, 2017.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
RobP74 (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 21:46
Barf...8
Briz...12
Extur..2
Glaws..4
Quinns..11
Tigers..5
Falcons..7
Sinners..9
Sale..6
Sarries.3
Pests..1
Wuss..10

Sarries to beat Pests in the final

 
Re: League Table Predictions
To Mega Therion (IP Logged)
23 August, 2018 09:45
1. Predictions
2. Are
3. Made
4. Every
5. Season
6. But
7. Very
8. Few
9. Turn
10. Out
11. Correct
12. Worcester



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Eparistera Daimones

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Bath Hammer (IP Logged)
23 August, 2018 10:40
Quote:
To Mega Therion
1. Predictions
2. Are
3. Made
4. Every
5. Season
6. But
7. Very
8. Few
9. Turn
10. Out
11. Correct
12. Worcester

But that’s the fun of it!

 
Re: League Table Predictions
OverTheBorder (IP Logged)
23 August, 2018 11:09
6, 12, 2, 4, 11, 7, 8, 10, 5, 3, 1, 9 (optimistic Wuss fan)

Sarries beat Wasps in the final - just because that’s what you do

 
Re: League Table Predictions
robtheh (IP Logged)
23 August, 2018 12:44
7, 9, 1, 3, 12, 5, 6, 10, 8, 2, 4, 11

Sarries to beat Gloucester in the final.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
derbyshire fan (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 07:57
I like this game!

7, 11, 2, 8, 10, 3, 5, 9, 6, 1, 4, 12

And Sarries to beat Exe in the final

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 11:45
The latest batch of coefficients compared to Old Codger's entry:

0.951 duchessmalfi
0.888 Duncan Keene
0.860 RobP74
0.783 OverTheBorder
0.838 robtheh
0.881 derbyshire fan

Tony Taff - I eagerly await your promised entry once the Slingsby induced hangover has cleared. Don't mention Spearmint Rhino to the vicar - he misses it terribly.
JO'G - your entry is still missing the 12th club. If my reading is correct I think you want Northampton 10th (in which case your coefficvient is an impressive 0.930) but please amend your entry.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
4everhopePhil (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 13:19
7, 11, 2, 4, 10, 5, 6, 8, 9, 1, 3, 12

Sarries to beat Exe in the final

 
Re: League Table Predictions
COYBARF (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 18:07
Top again according to this :

[therunnersports.com]

Reckon I agree smiling smiley

 
Re: League Table Predictions
The Bard (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 19:28
Hardest ever season to predict by a very long way...
Bath 5th
Briss 11th
Ex 2nd
Glos 3rd
Quins 7th
Tigs 6th
Newcastle 10th
Saints 8th
Sale 9th
Sarries 4th
Wasps 1st
Wuss 12th
Ex to beat Wasps in final

Strength in depth will be absolutely everything this year, we might struggle



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 27/08/2018 13:38 by The Bard.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
COYBARF (IP Logged)
24 August, 2018 20:38
Sarries to beat Wasps in the final !

As per this preview : [therunnersports.com]

Predictions for all teams on there, decent read .

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Darraghgirl (IP Logged)
26 August, 2018 14:01
OK as promised I will give this a shot:-

5,12,1,7,9,2,6,10,8,3,4,11

Final, Saracens to beat Leicester Tigers

 
Re: League Table Predictions
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 12:21
I haven't paid much attention to the recruitment of other clubs, so this is a shot in the dark. However, I doubt that Gussie will have much success in polishing the proverbial!

9 11 2 8 10 5 4 7 6 3 1 12

Sarries to lose to W*sps as most of the squad are still p!ssed in the Bigg Market after lifting the Big Cup!



£676.97 (*) donated to the Saracens Foundation due to visits to the Sarries frontpage [www.rugbynetwork.net]

Please read and submit articles for publication. (*) As at October 31, 2017.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30/08/2018 07:37 by TonyTaff.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
OhMaroItoje (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 13:17
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens,
Wasps, Worcester

10, 11, 1, 4, 9, 5, 8, 7, 6, 2, 3, 12
Sarries beat Exeter

 
Re: League Table Predictions
AP (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 18:03
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, Worcester

6 11 4 5 10 2 7 9 8 3 1 12

Sarries beat Wasps in final



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Re: League Table Predictions
Squawker2 (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 21:23
Bath, Bristol, Exeter, Gloucester, Harlequins, Leicester, Newcastle, Northampton, Sale, Saracens, Wasps, Worcester


6 11 2 7 9 4 5 10 8 1 3 12



And, of course, Sarries to beat Exeter in a replay of last year



-----------------------------------------------------

Stuart Barnes is a Cock Womble



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28/08/2018 10:18 by Squawker2.

 
Re: League Table Predictions
Sara'sman (IP Logged)
29 August, 2018 16:07
We have 27 entrants so far (thank you all). Just a reminder that the list will close at 12:00 tomorrow - 30 August.

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