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Cipriani red card
The Bard (IP Logged)
21 October, 2018 18:17
Is it just me, or was he very unlucky yesterday? It looked to me like the Munster player was being tackled and falling forwards and downwards. Cips is going backwards if anything and the Munster players's head falls onto his shoulder. Really can't see what else he could do.
The commentators were calling the Twelvetrees challenge the same type of contact only worse, which sounded ridiculous as it was totally different and I couldn't see any contact with the player's head at all!

 
Re: Cipriani red card
derbyshire fan (IP Logged)
21 October, 2018 18:53
It is tricky - at the moment, everything falls onto the player without the ball - and the player with the ball can duck into a tackle, bringing his head into contact with the shoulder of the tackler. I 100% get what the rule makers are trying to do - and support it, but the one-sided responsibility for safety is I think wrong

 
Re: Cipriani red card
flavman 35 (IP Logged)
21 October, 2018 21:00
That was extremely harsh i think. The clear wasn't even a shoulder to the head but an upper arm.
Regardless of that how did the munster playing only get a yellow for his high tackle around the neck?

 
Re: Cipriani red card
Broken Record (IP Logged)
22 October, 2018 10:01
Very unlucky - as usual, he was trying to avoid contact in the tackle area (that's not a euphemism!) and simply couldn't get out of the way in time.

 
Re: Cipriani red card
John Tee (IP Logged)
24 October, 2018 12:22
If that was a red, then expect many more players to get sent off. The problem is that the ref wasn't even consistent in that one game.
I also recall the Tmo calling back play... Which is fine...but be consistent.
Will rugby want multiple referrals to the Tmo per game, because consistancy should demand that they have to do that. Imo

 
Re: Cipriani red card
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
24 October, 2018 12:53
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John Tee
... The problem is that the ref wasn't even consistent in that one game.
o

It was at Thomond FFS

The only consistent aspect is that feeble refs get intimidated into favouring the home side.



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Re: Cipriani red card
PhillFez (IP Logged)
24 October, 2018 20:31
Three week ban and (think of Loz) "The 30-year-old will miss three Premiership Rugby Cup games, but it is unlikely he would have been involved."
unbelievable

 
Re: Cipriani red card
John Tee (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 12:27
Quote:
TonyTaff
Quote:
John Tee
... The problem is that the ref wasn't even consistent in that one game.
o

It was at Thomond FFS

The only consistent aspect is that feeble refs get intimidated into favouring the home side.

Then that is just plain bent...

How does a sport expect players to adhere to laws and rules if it's own house is so out of order?

That is a killer of the game in that it will drive fans away, Imo.

 
Re: Cipriani red card
Garp285 (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 13:04
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PhillFez
Three week ban and (think of Loz) "The 30-year-old will miss three Premiership Rugby Cup games, but it is unlikely he would have been involved."
unbelievable
I do have some sympathy with the rulings here - Loz is in the England squad therefore not even available for yesterday, whereas at least Cipriani was available, whether he would have been selected or not! It is still a@#$%&system, though!

 
Re: Cipriani red card
GazzaFez (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 13:51
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Garp285
Loz is in the England squad therefore not even available for yesterday

Garp, small but important correction there....England (in fact our very own HRHRH) made the point specifically that Loz would be made available so that yesterday's match could count against the ban.

 
Re: Cipriani red card
Garp285 (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 13:58
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GazzaFez
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Loz is in the England squad therefore not even available for yesterday

Garp, small but important correction there....England (in fact our very own HRHRH) made the point specifically that Loz would be made available so that yesterday's match could count against the ban.
True but you know as well as I that that was a load of bolleaux just to clear him foe England!

 
Re: Cipriani red card
GazzaFez (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 15:53
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Garp285
Quote:
GazzaFez
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Garp285
Loz is in the England squad therefore not even available for yesterday

Garp, small but important correction there....England (in fact our very own HRHRH) made the point specifically that Loz would be made available so that yesterday's match could count against the ban.
True but you know as well as I that that was a load of bolleaux just to clear him foe England!

No one's making a moral judgement here. We simply want objectivity and consistency, both of which have been absent by the bucketful over this episode.

 
Re: Cipriani red card
Waldo (IP Logged)
28 October, 2018 16:13
The thing is if England had known that them calling him up would lead to this farce of a 2 week /game ban not really being a 2 week / game ban and actually not called him up until today then he would have been free to play next week regardless of if we intended to play him or not yesterday !

 
Re: Cipriani red card
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
29 October, 2018 11:13
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Waldo
The thing is if England had known that them calling him up would lead to this farce of a 2 week /game ban not really being a 2 week / game ban and actually not called him up until today then he would have been free to play next week regardless of if we intended to play him or not yesterday !

Yes, but that would have meant that he missed part of the beasting, so, in Yoda's eyes, he would not have been fit enough to face the Boks!



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