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Quins behaving badly??
Jim 55 (IP Logged)
29 December, 2018 20:51
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The allegation seems to surround Quins hooker Dave Ward spitting at Wasps players, treading on young Mr Young and I think it’s fair to say Dai Young has tried to involve us with his views about Quins and their attitude.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/12/2018 20:53 by Jim 55.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Sarriebone (IP Logged)
29 December, 2018 21:10
Maler seemed quite aggrieved about a punch later on in the match as well so but of niggle all round by the sounds of it.

Dirty and has no place on a rugby pitch! No place anywhere really.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Jim 55 (IP Logged)
29 December, 2018 21:22
An easier read from the BEEB.


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Re: Quins behaving badly??
LutonS (IP Logged)
29 December, 2018 22:55
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-6538493/Harlequins-20-13-Wasps-Ill-discipline-overshadows-hosts-elevation-Premiership-four.html

The allegation seems to surround Quins hooker Dave Ward spitting at Wasps players, treading on young Mr Young and I think it’s fair to say Dai Young has tried to involve us with his views about Quins and their attitude.

Tried to involve us? Last time I checked we were safely on the better side of the river. As for Ward's actions, let's let to relevant officials deal with it.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
maynas (IP Logged)
30 December, 2018 00:01
Looked like Quins have learned to get angry when the opposition isn’t Sarries! Lots of afters too at the end, bad tempered game. Similar game coming our way in March I suspect.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Highbury Saracen (IP Logged)
30 December, 2018 08:48
And as for celebrating the turnover ball near the end.....well I say.....very sarries!! smiling smiley



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Re: Quins behaving badly??
raedarius (IP Logged)
30 December, 2018 10:54
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LutonS
Last time I checked we were safely on the better side of the river.

Which river?

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
30 December, 2018 12:22
Hades?(Sm108)

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
beshocked (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 11:37
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.


Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 13:26
If the ref had spotted Ward's neck-roll on Young jnr, there wouldn't have been so much aggro.

The match was an appalling spectacle - not many of the 80,000 will have been converted!



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Re: Quins behaving badly??
MyCupRunnethOver (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 13:56
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Hades?(Sm108)

(Sm6)can't beat a classical education when it comes to jokes!

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
TOKS (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 14:02
As long as 75,000 don't think it's free every time (Sm151)

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
TOKS (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 14:11
On a more serious note, whilst nothing to do with citing commissions really surprises me these days, I was on this occasion quite surprised that the citing commission didn't take the spitting further, especially combined with the neck roll.

Whilst TV is inconclusive as to the precise direction and target of the invective it was certainly dispensed from his gob in a fairly careless manner and injudicious area, strewn with players as it was.

The club-imposed one-week ban is usually a desperate attempt by the club because they know something far more draconian is in the offing. I'm surprised the authorities "bought" it in this case.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 14:13
As long as 75,000 don't think it's free every time (Sm151)

(Sm138)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2019 14:17 by tpr's headmistress.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
AlanE (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 14:33
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Hades?(Sm108)

Styx? (But don't let Quins near them - they would misuse them)



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Re: Quins behaving badly??
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 16:37
Quote:
beshocked
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.

Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

There was no stamp, he trod on him (still poor, but not the two footed lunge the twitter jury would have us believe). The ban from Quins was for Ward being a berk. No evidence that he spat at anyone except the floor. Nothing from the ref/citings, nothing from the wasps players.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
beshocked (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 17:20
Quote:
HonkyTonk
Quote:
beshocked
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.

Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

There was no stamp, he trod on him (still poor, but not the two footed lunge the twitter jury would have us believe). The ban from Quins was for Ward being a berk. No evidence that he spat at anyone except the floor. Nothing from the ref/citings, nothing from the wasps players.

[www.independent.co.uk]


Looks like photographic evidence of me of spitting.


I think that Dave Ward has got off very lightly - that's my point.

Lozowski got banned for a non incident for 4 weeks - it was treating one player differently to another.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 17:59
Quote:
HonkyTonk
Quote:
beshocked
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.

Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

There was no stamp, he trod on him (still poor, but not the two footed lunge the twitter jury would have us believe). The ban from Quins was for Ward being a berk. No evidence that he spat at anyone except the floor. Nothing from the ref/citings, nothing from the wasps players.

I may not agree with all of your comments HonkyTonk but nice to see that some Quins fans still browsing these forums, it's a shame to see Quins Forum so empty...(Sm111)



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Re: Quins behaving badly??
mrangry (IP Logged)
03 January, 2019 21:17
Just read Beshocked's comment and state that I have never been a Quin, and certainly can't play front row. I also feel that geographical knowledge is seemingly lacking on this board, as The Stoop and AzP are both on the north side of the Thames, west of the Lea. So perhaps the river is the Lethem, which is why some people forget Gussy was a great coach, and I have been a Sarry for 30 years
I remain the original Mr Angry

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
LutonS (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 08:38
Re the river comment, I had had a few beers, and I am often prone to forget that Twickenham is north of the river even without.



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Re: Quins behaving badly??
beshocked (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 11:45
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mrangry
Just read Beshocked's comment and state that I have never been a Quin, and certainly can't play front row. I also feel that geographical knowledge is seemingly lacking on this board, as The Stoop and AzP are both on the north side of the Thames, west of the Lea. So perhaps the river is the Lethem, which is why some people forget Gussy was a great coach, and I have been a Sarry for 30 years
I remain the original Mr Angry


I did mean Mike Brown but I apologise. I should have said Quin's Mr Angry or Mr Angry II.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 16:02
Quote:
beshocked
Quote:
mrangry
Just read Beshocked's comment and state that I have never been a Quin, and certainly can't play front row. I also feel that geographical knowledge is seemingly lacking on this board, as The Stoop and AzP are both on the north side of the Thames, west of the Lea. So perhaps the river is the Lethem, which is why some people forget Gussy was a great coach, and I have been a Sarry for 30 years
I remain the original Mr Angry

I did mean Mike Brown but I apologise. I should have said Quin's Mr Angry or Mr Angry II.

One is losing his hair, while the other's is growing back! winking smiley



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/01/2019 16:23 by TonyTaff.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 16:11
Quote:
beshocked
Quote:
HonkyTonk
Quote:
beshocked
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.

Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

There was no stamp, he trod on him (still poor, but not the two footed lunge the twitter jury would have us believe). The ban from Quins was for Ward being a berk. No evidence that he spat at anyone except the floor. Nothing from the ref/citings, nothing from the wasps players.

[www.independent.co.uk]


Looks like photographic evidence of me of spitting.


I think that Dave Ward has got off very lightly - that's my point.

Lozowski got banned for a non incident for 4 weeks - it was treating one player differently to another.

Oh he spat alright, no doubt, but there is no evidence that he spat AT anyone. Spitting seems par for the course for a professional rugby/footballers these days. Pitch must be covered!!! If there was an actual shot of Ward gobbing on the Wasps player then I would be the first to call for a ban etc.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
TonyTaff (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 16:28
Quote:
HonkyTonk
Quote:
beshocked
Quote:
HonkyTonk
Quote:
beshocked
Only 1 week ban for Dave Ward for spitting and stamping whereas Lozowski got a 4 week ban for a non incident.

Gustard has certainly got Quins fired up that's for sure though with a team that has Mr Angry and two very niggly props - Marler and Sinckler it's not that hard.


Gustard has done a good job so far, giving Quins a bit more belief. They look a more organised team defensively.

25 tries conceded is the same as Sarries. Joint 2nd best defensive record with Gustard in charge.

They've also picked up 5 losing points so have been competitive.


They'll still need to improve their pack to challenge Exeter and Saracens though.

There was no stamp, he trod on him (still poor, but not the two footed lunge the twitter jury would have us believe). The ban from Quins was for Ward being a berk. No evidence that he spat at anyone except the floor. Nothing from the ref/citings, nothing from the wasps players.

[www.independent.co.uk]


Looks like photographic evidence of me of spitting.


I think that Dave Ward has got off very lightly - that's my point.

Lozowski got banned for a non incident for 4 weeks - it was treating one player differently to another.

Oh he spat alright, no doubt, but there is no evidence that he spat AT anyone. Spitting seems par for the course for a professional rugby/footballers these days. Pitch must be covered!!! If there was an actual shot of Ward gobbing on the Wasps player then I would be the first to call for a ban etc.

That's fine, Honky Tonk. Gussie has explained the rationale for the one-week ban, and no citing action was deemed necessary.

The Internet is full of users who will cling to preconceived ideas, despite the evidence to the contrary.

Some even still think that Sarries broke the salary cap winking smiley



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2019 05:33 by TonyTaff.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
JO'G (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 16:58
was listening to a podcast with Nick Easter this morning and he was asked about Browns comments on the potential broken neck for himself

Easter was of the firm opinion that the whole brown thing was to distract attention away from Ward's antics - and its worked

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
samlee99 (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 19:12
Quote:
JO'G
was listening to a podcast with Nick Easter this morning and he was asked about Browns comments on the potential broken neck for himself
Easter was of the firm opinion that the whole brown thing was to distract attention away from Ward's antics - and its worked

Along with the citing officer who decided there was nothing to cite of course.

Or maybe he was so engrossed in reading Brown's comments that he forgot all about doing his job?

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 22:52
I await the 'Sarries behaving badly' thread after tonight's show of petulance, gobbing off, niggle and foul play. smiling smiley

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Man from LA (IP Logged)
04 January, 2019 23:43
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Quinten Poulsen
I await the 'Sarries behaving badly' thread after tonight's show of petulance, gobbing off, niggle and foul play. smiling smiley


According to GazzaFez, Farrell's petulance and being warned about it in the last 3 games (and several more before that) is down to being 'strong-willed'. Everyone else it's just being gobby, At least we don't get the mythical 'big-game temperament' clichés anymore.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
GazzaFez (IP Logged)
05 January, 2019 01:14
Quote:
Man from LA
According to GazzaFez, Farrell's petulance and being warned about it in the last 3 games (and several more before that) is down to being 'strong-willed'. Everyone else it's just being gobby, At least we don't get the mythical 'big-game temperament' clichés anymore.

Comprehension not your strong point? That's not in any way what I said but I expect you know that.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
OhMaroItoje (IP Logged)
05 January, 2019 03:09
Quote:
Man from LA
Quote:
Quinten Poulsen
I await the 'Sarries behaving badly' thread after tonight's show of petulance, gobbing off, niggle and foul play. smiling smiley


According to GazzaFez, Farrell's petulance and being warned about it in the last 3 games (and several more before that) is down to being 'strong-willed'. Everyone else it's just being gobby, At least we don't get the mythical 'big-game temperament' clichés anymore.

To be fair, Farrell plays well in the big game 9/10.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
John Tee (IP Logged)
05 January, 2019 15:00
Quote:
OhMaroItoje
Quote:
Man from LA
Quote:
Quinten Poulsen
I await the 'Sarries behaving badly' thread after tonight's show of petulance, gobbing off, niggle and foul play. smiling smiley


According to GazzaFez, Farrell's petulance and being warned about it in the last 3 games (and several more before that) is down to being 'strong-willed'. Everyone else it's just being gobby, At least we don't get the mythical 'big-game temperament' clichés anymore.

To be fair, Farrell plays well in the big game 9/10.

He does. He is able to bring an intangible onto the field.
That doesn't extend to actually being the captain though, Imo.

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
myleftboot (IP Logged)
06 January, 2019 15:44
Quote:
Quinten Poulsen
I await the 'Sarries behaving badly' thread after tonight's show of petulance, gobbing off, niggle and foul play. smiling smiley
what, something like the existing, 3 page thread discussing our current captains behaviour you mean?

 
Re: Quins behaving badly??
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
06 January, 2019 15:58
The thread title needs work then. At least my wait is over!


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