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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
10 February, 2019 17:44
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Dave Berko (IP Logged)
10 February, 2019 19:21
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 11:03
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
TOKS (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 12:17
I suppose all you can do is keep pointing him towards Mark McCafferty's comments, reiterate that he does seem to be on his own here (which he really should have spotted by now) and then just ignore him.

At the end of the day if someone once to hold a particular view, and refuses to deviate despite all available evidence, there's not a whole lot you can do.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 16:42
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

Thank you for making me smile on a Monday morning (Sm6) us, "upset" that is so laughable ... whilst we are travelling around Europe, playing in finals (one in a few weeks) winning shiny trophies, meeting some lovely supporters from other teams in England, Uk, Europe, entertaining their supporters groups pre and post games.... plus watching our players representing their countries ...."upset" yeah right!

I for one realise that this run will not last forever and other teams will be dominant as before, we may slip down the table but I will continue to support as I did before our successful run...

I invite you to come along to AzP, watch a game, have a drink and some banter (without any malice) and see just how upset we are...

Oh, are you anywhere near answering ANY of the questions I have asked?[u][/u] or will you just keep repeating yourself....



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 12:50
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

Thank you for making me smile on a Monday morning (Sm6) us, "upset" that is so laughable ... whilst we are travelling around Europe, playing in finals (one in a few weeks) winning shiny trophies, meeting some lovely supporters from other teams in England, Uk, Europe, entertaining their supporters groups pre and post games.... plus watching our players representing their countries ...."upset" yeah right!

I for one realise that this run will not last forever and other teams will be dominant as before, we may slip down the table but I will continue to support as I did before our successful run...

I invite you to come along to AzP, watch a game, have a drink and some banter (without any malice) and see just how upset we are...

Oh, are you anywhere near answering ANY of the questions I have asked?[u][/u] or will you just keep repeating yourself....

Always pleased to give you something to smile about. It must be a pretty miserable life being a Saracens fan and knowing your trophies are forever tarnished.

It's also pleasing to see you spend so much time thinking and writing about my view that your trophies are tarnished. Like your fellow tarnished trophy apologist it rather suggests that deep down you know that your trophies are indeed tarnished.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 13:09
Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Wayoutwest (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 13:20
Nice shiny bright trophies.....Lots of them!

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
myleftboot (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 14:06
https://www.accessdisplays.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/custom-trophy-display-cases-saracens-allianz-park-stadium.jpgindeed

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
TOKS (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 15:29
They actually look extremely shiny.

Much like Samlee's appendage, I suspect.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 17:01
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Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...

This link provides a discussion on why questions regarding your tarnished trophies are unable to be properly addressed.
[www.rugbynetwork.net]

I'll leave the appendage jibes to TOKS as it is clearly a subject he thinks about a lot.

I'll leave you rugby apologists to continue burying your heads in the sand for the moment so feel free to post lots more abuse and insults below.

It merely confirms how much it hurts you to be reminded that your trophies are forever tarnished.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Wayoutwest (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 17:50
Bright and Shiny.....

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Harrow Sarrie (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:24
Anyone remember the year of said investigation?
And the years we won trophies?
And the fact they don't overlap?

So even if we were found guilty of a breach (which we weren't) no trophies means nothing to get tarnished.

But that doesn't fit the narrative being peddled though does it...

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 21:03
HS - the inference is it's still happening. These people don't require proof - if they say it enough it must be true. Arguing is futile.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 21:43
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Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...

This link provides a discussion on why questions regarding your tarnished trophies are unable to be properly addressed.
[www.rugbynetwork.net]?

98,16510067,page=5

I'll leave the appendage jibes to TOKS as it is clearly a subject he thinks about a lot.

I'll leave you rugby apologists to continue burying your heads in the sand for the moment so feel free to post lots more abuse and insults below.

It merely confirms how much it hurts you to be reminded that your trophies are forever tarnished.

Where are the facts? That is just a discussion.

Again... will you answer any of my questions?

Can you show where any of us are showing hurt?

I doubt it and look forward to your next repetition of the only thing you can say....Non facts and supposition as to how you think we feel but refuse to come and see for yourself.



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
EnfieldMal (IP Logged)
17 February, 2019 17:59
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.



Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

I donít know it. You might know it but do you have what is needed to actually accuse someone whether that is a person or an organisation, which is evidence. I could start a discussion about you & discuss it with everyone I see & they could have a discussion with everyone they meet, but without evidence anything I say or anyone else says it is still just a discussion

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