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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
10 February, 2019 17:44
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Dave Berko (IP Logged)
10 February, 2019 19:21
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 11:03
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
TOKS (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 12:17
I suppose all you can do is keep pointing him towards Mark McCafferty's comments, reiterate that he does seem to be on his own here (which he really should have spotted by now) and then just ignore him.

At the end of the day if someone once to hold a particular view, and refuses to deviate despite all available evidence, there's not a whole lot you can do.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
11 February, 2019 16:42
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

Thank you for making me smile on a Monday morning (Sm6) us, "upset" that is so laughable ... whilst we are travelling around Europe, playing in finals (one in a few weeks) winning shiny trophies, meeting some lovely supporters from other teams in England, Uk, Europe, entertaining their supporters groups pre and post games.... plus watching our players representing their countries ...."upset" yeah right!

I for one realise that this run will not last forever and other teams will be dominant as before, we may slip down the table but I will continue to support as I did before our successful run...

I invite you to come along to AzP, watch a game, have a drink and some banter (without any malice) and see just how upset we are...

Oh, are you anywhere near answering ANY of the questions I have asked?[u][/u] or will you just keep repeating yourself....



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 12:50
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.

Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

Thank you for making me smile on a Monday morning (Sm6) us, "upset" that is so laughable ... whilst we are travelling around Europe, playing in finals (one in a few weeks) winning shiny trophies, meeting some lovely supporters from other teams in England, Uk, Europe, entertaining their supporters groups pre and post games.... plus watching our players representing their countries ...."upset" yeah right!

I for one realise that this run will not last forever and other teams will be dominant as before, we may slip down the table but I will continue to support as I did before our successful run...

I invite you to come along to AzP, watch a game, have a drink and some banter (without any malice) and see just how upset we are...

Oh, are you anywhere near answering ANY of the questions I have asked?[u][/u] or will you just keep repeating yourself....

Always pleased to give you something to smile about. It must be a pretty miserable life being a Saracens fan and knowing your trophies are forever tarnished.

It's also pleasing to see you spend so much time thinking and writing about my view that your trophies are tarnished. Like your fellow tarnished trophy apologist it rather suggests that deep down you know that your trophies are indeed tarnished.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 13:09
Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Wayoutwest (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 13:20
Nice shiny bright trophies.....Lots of them!

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
myleftboot (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 14:06
https://www.accessdisplays.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/custom-trophy-display-cases-saracens-allianz-park-stadium.jpgindeed

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
TOKS (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 15:29
They actually look extremely shiny.

Much like Samlee's appendage, I suspect.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 17:01
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Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...

This link provides a discussion on why questions regarding your tarnished trophies are unable to be properly addressed.
[www.rugbynetwork.net]

I'll leave the appendage jibes to TOKS as it is clearly a subject he thinks about a lot.

I'll leave you rugby apologists to continue burying your heads in the sand for the moment so feel free to post lots more abuse and insults below.

It merely confirms how much it hurts you to be reminded that your trophies are forever tarnished.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Wayoutwest (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 17:50
Bright and Shiny.....

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Harrow Sarrie (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:24
Anyone remember the year of said investigation?
And the years we won trophies?
And the fact they don't overlap?

So even if we were found guilty of a breach (which we weren't) no trophies means nothing to get tarnished.

But that doesn't fit the narrative being peddled though does it...

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
tpr's headmistress (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 21:03
HS - the inference is it's still happening. These people don't require proof - if they say it enough it must be true. Arguing is futile.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 21:43
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Well that's simple then....
Unable to answer questions. Unable to read what I have written about how happy we are. Unable to accept my offer.
But very able to keep repeat the same old rubbish...

This link provides a discussion on why questions regarding your tarnished trophies are unable to be properly addressed.
[www.rugbynetwork.net]?

98,16510067,page=5

I'll leave the appendage jibes to TOKS as it is clearly a subject he thinks about a lot.

I'll leave you rugby apologists to continue burying your heads in the sand for the moment so feel free to post lots more abuse and insults below.

It merely confirms how much it hurts you to be reminded that your trophies are forever tarnished.

Where are the facts? That is just a discussion.

Again... will you answer any of my questions?

Can you show where any of us are showing hurt?

I doubt it and look forward to your next repetition of the only thing you can say....Non facts and supposition as to how you think we feel but refuse to come and see for yourself.



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
EnfieldMal (IP Logged)
17 February, 2019 17:59
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I've looked around....hmmm, nothing in any of the papers, news channel's, sports web sites, if there was any SOLID evidence I'm sure they'd be all over it.
Just a few bitter and twisted KW's on forums and Twitter, you keep banging the drum on hete and other forums.



Do you go to grounds and watch live games?


Yes it's where I talk to rugby fans many of whom have far stronger opinions than me on the salary cap abuses.

Really. I would have thought that I/we would have come accross the "many" fans on our travels in the UK and Europe, as most fans are willing to engage with eachother and have a good talk. There are those who have a bit of banter for fun but none with the vitriolic and nastiness you have. Just look at some of the great receptions our supporter groups get at away games..



Have you ever spoken with a Sarcens fans and put you evidence and point of view to them in a constructive way?
I assume you have never visited Azp but we must have played your team (?) at your home ground.

Oh have you listened to that Pod cast by Matthew Tait yet?

No vitriol, no nastiness. I leave that to the abusers replying to my posts.

I simply point out that your trophies are tainted and I reply to those who post at me (like you did).

My point remains that your trophies are tainted. If you believe no one else thinks that then good for you. It's not up to me if you want to deceive yourself.

1. Inabillity/unwillingness to answer my questions.

2. Inabillity/unwillingness to provide any evidence of your accusations.

3. Abillity/willing to just keep repeating the same mantra ... like anything that you keep repeating you begin to believe it's true.

That must be the echo!

Bordering on Delusional?

The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

I donít know it. You might know it but do you have what is needed to actually accuse someone whether that is a person or an organisation, which is evidence. I could start a discussion about you & discuss it with everyone I see & they could have a discussion with everyone they meet, but without evidence anything I say or anyone else says it is still just a discussion

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Roger G (IP Logged)
22 February, 2019 16:36
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The delusion is believing your trophies aren't tainted. Otherwise why would you be so upset about my opinion? You know it, I know it and the rugby world knows it.

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It's also pleasing to see you spend so much time thinking and writing about my view that your trophies are tarnished.

These two snippets sum it up. Samlee talks about his "opinion" and his "view" and, of course he is perfectly entitled to his "opinion" or "view". However, that doesn't make his opinion a fact, expecially when the only definitive statements and evidence have disagreed with his opinion. Also, the numner of people sharing his opinion has no bearing on factuality either.

To be honest I, personally, don't have a problem with him or anybody else having such an opinion, any more than having some of my friends disagreeing with my opinion on Brexit (which I will keep firmly to myself on this medium). What is a tad irritating is the incessant and aggressive repetition of the same view. This approach is best ignored as the only point of any reasoned debate (by "reasoned debate" I mean trying different arguments to convince the opponent...not just regurgitating the same line over and over again) is to attempt to change your opponents's view....which isn't going to happen in this case!!

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
23 February, 2019 12:22
Still worried about those who think you cheated the salary cap then?

It just shows you know it as well.

Tarnished trophies are forever tarnished.

Thanks for keeping the subject in the public arena.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
1876-Fez (IP Logged)
23 February, 2019 15:29
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Still worried about those who think you cheated the salary cap then?
It just shows you know it as well.

Tarnished trophies are forever tarnished.

Thanks for keeping the subject in the public arena.

Wondered where you had been, seen you had been trawling other boards with your message (not much support hey!).

I hope you have spent your time wisely listening to the 2 pods I suggested about why players move and a very good explanation of the salary cap or even trying to find some evidence of facts... but I don't think you have (Sm102) as you have just repeated yourself again which is rather sad as I you have just wasted more of your life trotting out an idea no one is interested in.

Hope you are enjoying the 6 Nations, but that is probably tarnished as 3 teams contain Saracens players .... oh well never mind...

Keep in touch as we know you need the attention... Bye..



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Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
JimJam350 (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 11:25
Wrong thread



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 24/02/2019 11:26 by JimJam350.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Man from LA (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 12:24
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Still worried about those who think you cheated the salary cap then?
It just shows you know it as well.

Tarnished trophies are forever tarnished.

Thanks for keeping the subject in the public arena.

Wondered where you had been, seen you had been trawling other boards with your message (not much support hey!).



He/she had a lot of support at Kingsholm Friday night (same old Sarries, always cheating).

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
samlee99 (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 12:23
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Still worried about those who think you cheated the salary cap then?
It just shows you know it as well.

Tarnished trophies are forever tarnished.

Thanks for keeping the subject in the public arena.

Wondered where you had been, seen you had been trawling other boards with your message (not much support hey!).

I hope you have spent your time wisely listening to the 2 pods I suggested about why players move and a very good explanation of the salary cap or even trying to find some evidence of facts... but I don't think you have (Sm102) as you have just repeated yourself again which is rather sad as I you have just wasted more of your life trotting out an idea no one is interested in.

Hope you are enjoying the 6 Nations, but that is probably tarnished as 3 teams contain Saracens players .... oh well never mind...

Keep in touch as we know you need the attention... Bye..

I had been leaving your self-help group for the deluded who believe your trophies aren't tarnished to your own devices for a while but was amused to find that almost two weeks later you were still worried enough about my opinion to chuck the insults about which is why I posted again.

Rather seems that deep down you know your trophies are tarnished too. Otherwise why would you be so concerned about my opinion? Not to mention the opinions of so many others too as was highlighted at Kingsholm over the weekend of course.

Anyway thanks for doing my job for me and keeping your tarnished trophies in the public eye. Please post again and keep reminding everyone.

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
Man from LA (IP Logged)
04 March, 2019 12:40
Bump (Sm14)

 
Re: Deleted.... not a story really.
TOKS (IP Logged)
04 March, 2019 12:53
I see it's not just us that Samlee and Man from LA have been bothering.

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