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Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:15
Okay, if he's a coach employed by a Saffa Super howevermanyitis team, will he be in place by our pre-season?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:24
Yes.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:30
You don't fancy the Lion's chances past 14th July then m10?

Finals are 4th August!
(Sm3)



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Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:31
So is it the balding Kiwi or the bald kiwi?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:33
It won't be Mitchell. It'll be Plumtree, I think.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:39
Long as he doesn't bring the orange one with him.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:48
Is he going to bring pietersen with him Marshie?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:52
Don't know who the two players are noidea. It's all very well them wanting to come, but can we squeeze them into the cap, I'd guess we can, because Bismark is not one of them. We don't have enough cap for him alone!!

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 14:58
Pietersen and the Beast would do nicely.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:02
Quote:
Ex-Bod
Experienced prop available - just released
29yr old
Ask Belly about him - he'll have his references. Doubt if he'd be too dear!

Pray tell bod? What went on? In a not too cryptic way if possible

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:03
I'd like the Beast and Kankowski, both to come next year to replace Flatman and Taylor respectively. I'd like Jacques Fourie to replace Carraro, in my opinion we need an out and out 13 to replace Carraro and compete with Williams. Pietersen is an out and out winger trying his hand at 13, again, in my opinion.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:04
He's been pretty effective at it, Marshe, and God knows our backine could do with a bit of pace in the centre.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:07
Not according to Plumbtree Marshie:

[www.google.co.uk]

not entirely sure how to do a link!

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:11

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Blocks2u (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:25
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noidea
Not according to Plumbtree Marshie:
[www.google.co.uk]

not entirely sure how to do a link!

You did it, yes it was that easy winking smiley

Now you can now justifiably claim that you are a step up on the evolutionary ladder from Brian fwiw winking smiley



Ian

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 15:30
Only a step - I obviously have a long way to go

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
TCM2007 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:29
Quote:
Ex-Bod
To be honest,I can't see anyone being contracted in by Bath until the new Head Coach is signed up.

Webber, Day...



Stuart

Former ed.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:32
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TCM2007
Quote:
Ex-Bod
To be honest,I can't see anyone being contracted in by Bath until the new Head Coach is signed up.

Webber, Day...
Squad development players rather than 1st choice I'd reckon. Both clubs are skint (Scarlets + Pests) and both players will be quite cheap I'd reckon



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Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:33
Quote:
ballsout
Quote:
Ex-Bod
Experienced prop available - just released
29yr old
Ask Belly about him - he'll have his references. Doubt if he'd be too dear!

Pray tell bod? What went on? In a not too cryptic way if possible

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
mines a black rat (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:38
So with all that is happening behind the scenes could Mitchell be looking for a way out??



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Re: New Signings for 2012
TCM2007 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:40
Quote:
Ex-Bod
Quote:
TCM2007
Quote:
Ex-Bod
To be honest,I can't see anyone being contracted in by Bath until the new Head Coach is signed up.

Webber, Day...
Squad development players rather than 1st choice I'd reckon. Both clubs are skint (Scarlets + Pests) and both players will be quite cheap I'd reckon

Well Webber is in the England team...

But whatever their status, they are players who have signed.



Stuart

Former ed.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 16:42
Quote:
mines a black rat
So with all that is happening behind the scenes could Mitchell be looking for a way out??

SARU have stated that they will launch another S15 franchise and S15 have said said "fine!" as long as one other closes, there will be no s16 with an extra Saafa team.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 17:25
Can't see the Lions folding - Transvaal are one of the oldest (and biggest) rugby clubs in Africa.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 18:58
Indeed noidea, and the most Afrikaaner; there is some story about the ANC Minister for Sport promising a S15 franchise to E.Cape - it's all a bit murky!



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Re: New Signings for 2012
@Hydor18 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 19:06
Could you see Rangers FC folding?

Just a season ago, they were parading Butch from the steps of a private jet and buying him out of his contract with Bath. How the mighty fall...

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 19:18
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TCM2007
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Ex-Bod
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TCM2007
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Ex-Bod
To be honest,I can't see anyone being contracted in by Bath until the new Head Coach is signed up.

Webber, Day...
Squad development players rather than 1st choice I'd reckon. Both clubs are skint (Scarlets + Pests) and both players will be quite cheap I'd reckon

Well Webber is in the England team...

But whatever their status, they are players who have signed.

They were both signed before it was reported that BC had decided to appoint a new head coach so were probably SIM signings. It seems quite reasonable to presume that any further signings, particularly use of the Moody cap money, will wait until a new coach is found.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2012 19:24 by devizes bath fan.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 22:23
Almost the entire squad on tonight's performance!



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 22:30
Decent squad Cooch, abject gameplan all season seemingly junked (on orders???) for an offloading gameplan that takes (took) years to perfect in the blind hope it would beat Tiggers. I'm shocked and horrified by the paucity of rugby logic in that decision. Would the club care to name and shame the idiot?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 22:32
I'm sure there are a lot of exceptionally honest players on the squad that will unfortunately have to move on if Bath can attract the correct Coaching team to fulfil BC2's objectives.

I know you'll all laugh at me as you did when I directed my fire at SIM from the day the first whispers of his association with Bath were first raised through the grape vine - but the bigger picture Bruce need to plan towards is a EuroLeague, probably within the next 5-10 years - and if Bath ain't up to scratch by then we'll be frozen out of a RL style system where you can only gain accession every 3-4 years.

TV will push it that way. And, as NB has outlines before, they call the shots.

Food for thought at Fort Farleigh.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:06
The problem is our squad is on a power with the lower levels of the AP, Gareth, the Leicesters, Saints, Sarries, Quins etc have developed squads with players all the way down that our better than our top 20 or so!



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:09
Then we should be volubly ashamed of Bath Rugby Cooch, as should the glee club

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
TCM2007 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:10
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Gareth Redux
Decent squad Cooch, abject gameplan all season seemingly junked (on orders???) for an offloading gameplan that takes (took) years to perfect in the blind hope it would beat Tiggers. I'm shocked and horrified by the paucity of rugby logic in that decision. Would the club care to name and shame the idiot?

So you wanted them to play a way which you have strongly criticised and which has met with no success, rather than trying to play the way you want them to play, and which has had some recent results.

I see.

Actually, no I don't.



Stuart

Former ed.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:14
What? I'm a fan of Meehan's offloading game and always have been. Your desire to have a pop at certain people whatever they say is addling you Stu. BUFFS

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
TCM2007 (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:15
Quote:
Ex-Bod

I know you'll all laugh at me as you did when I directed my fire at SIM from the day the first whispers of his association with Bath were first raised through the grape vine - but the bigger picture Bruce need to plan towards is a EuroLeague, probably within the next 5-10 years - and if Bath ain't up to scratch by then we'll be frozen out of a RL style system where you can only gain accession every 3-4 years.

TV will push it that way. And, as NB has outlines before, they call the shots.

Food for thought at Fort Farleigh.

Not laughing at you Bod, but think you've completely misread the way the pro game is likely to develop and misunderstood the motivations of TV.



Stuart

Former ed.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:22
Er, TCM, care to respond to me too? Surely you didn't err in fact. That's soooo unlike you

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bathovalballer (IP Logged)
09 March, 2012 23:30
We need to replace Barkley as he has lost his pace and cannot put people into space when he is so slow to react and pass. He nearly gave away an interception try in the first 10 minutes and then gave the ball away very soon after that. How can we let Cararo go when we are positively weak in the centre!

As mentioned above, other top Prem sides have developed a full Squad of players who are all fit and want to fight for their places and why the United has been wasted and takes such a battering as these other sides take their reserve ganmes very seriously and treat them as a test for squad players.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 10:06
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TCM2007
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Ex-Bod

I know you'll all laugh at me as you did when I directed my fire at SIM from the day the first whispers of his association with Bath were first raised through the grape vine - but the bigger picture Bruce need to plan towards is a EuroLeague, probably within the next 5-10 years - and if Bath ain't up to scratch by then we'll be frozen out of a RL style system where you can only gain accession every 3-4 years.

TV will push it that way. And, as NB has outlines before, they call the shots.

Food for thought at Fort Farleigh.

Not laughing at you Bod, but think you've completely misread the way the pro game is likely to develop and misunderstood the motivations of TV.

Thanks for putting me right
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Re: New Signings for 2012
hasta (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 10:49
Quote:
Food for thought at Fort Farleigh.

What a beautifully constructed sentence.

Rugby? Oh, I'm kinda pretending that didn't happen.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Riddler (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 11:25
Completely appreciate this wont happen but, for us to be competitive next season, IMHO, we must sign in addition to Webber and Day (which I reckon to be two astute signings), in order of priority;

- first a foremost a new head coach, backs and forwards coach. For me the head coach has to be somebody who installs a win at all costs attitude as Bath has been too cosy cozy a club for nearly two decades. As much as it pains me to say it, but look at the likes of Leicester. They don't shrug their shoulders and say they gave it a good shot when they lose; they are devastated and then, come Monday, put their frustration into training so it doesn't happen again.

- a loose head. Flats is a top man, but he is no longer a top prop. This is a professional environment in which he plays and where his position is key; I don't think anything else needs to be said. Catty and Beech are great prospects, especially Catty, but we need a top prop now, in order that we aren't asking relatively inexperienced and undeveloped props to bail the club out at scrum time. And it is the scrum and line out where the the vast majority, if not practically all, matches are won and lost. The idea of Bath being 'happy with what they have got' needs to be looked at very hard as it is plain to everyone in the game that the club are hugely vulnerable in this pivotal area.

- a scrum half. Claassens, like Flats, is a top bloke. Unlike Flats he has many more years left in him but for almost the entire season he has been too slow in thought and woefully poor in execution. Wood is a great prospect but is not there yet in terms of his complete game. I would sign a competitive nine to keep the other two 'honest'. Its again a pivotal area, and one we cannot 'get by' with under performing players.

- An outside centre. I have no idea why the Club do not appear to be scrapping to keep our best centre, Carraro, but if he goes we are left with Hipkiss, yet another player past his best IMHO. We need a player who keeps the opposition guessing and at present, bar our back three, we dont have that.

- An eight. We have too many players who are good but dont necessarily push one another for selection. For me Fearns is our 6, Louw the 7 and at 8, at present, Taylor. But as good a player as he is, in a slow match you need your big ball carriers, which he is not. We need more from this position to gain us the hard yards.

For me therefore its three new coaches and six new players, if we want to be competitive. If the desire of BC is to just about keep the club in the premiership, then only a few of these and keep pointing at the achievements off the pitch. Its time for some brutal honesty come end of the season and, most likely out of the Heineken, if ever there was a time to lay out your intent, for BC it must be now or never.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 11:29
Who is Wood?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Riddler (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 11:45
Damn Saturday morning amnesia! Cook, not Wood...!

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
marshie10 (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 17:11
Ha, I get the same Riddler.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
TCM2007 (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 17:13
Quote:
Ex-Bod
Quote:
TCM2007
Quote:
Ex-Bod

I know you'll all laugh at me as you did when I directed my fire at SIM from the day the first whispers of his association with Bath were first raised through the grape vine - but the bigger picture Bruce need to plan towards is a EuroLeague, probably within the next 5-10 years - and if Bath ain't up to scratch by then we'll be frozen out of a RL style system where you can only gain accession every 3-4 years.

TV will push it that way. And, as NB has outlines before, they call the shots.

Food for thought at Fort Farleigh.

Not laughing at you Bod, but think you've completely misread the way the pro game is likely to develop and misunderstood the motivations of TV.

Thanks for putting me right
(Sm49)


You're welcome.



Stuart

Former ed.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
exbathballboy (IP Logged)
10 March, 2012 17:43
Fearns at 6 is someone having a laugh because he played there last night.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 00:57
Quote:
ballsout
Quote:
ballsout
Quote:
Ex-Bod
Experienced prop available - just released
29yr old
Ask Belly about him - he'll have his references. Doubt if he'd be too dear!

Pray tell bod? What went on? In a not too cryptic way if possible

Third time lucky?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 08:55
Bod doesn't answer direct questions, ballsout. Adds to his mystique.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 09:02
Doesn't answer or doesn't know the answer?

Still waiting to hear back from him with regards to if, after posting the stats from this year's Six Nations that made England look quite poor, he also posted them last year that made England look excellent and his team look mostly terrible. I won't hold my breath on getting a reply to either query smiling smiley

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 09:08
Dunno why he doesn't answer direct questions, you'd have to ask him.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Rucking Carl (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 09:31
Quote:
Gareth Redux
Decent squad Cooch, abject gameplan all season seemingly junked (on orders???) for an offloading gameplan that takes (took) years to perfect in the blind hope it would beat Tiggers. I'm shocked and horrified by the paucity of rugby logic in that decision. Would the club care to name and shame the idiot?

I'm a touch confused Gareth, you've been complaining since you returned to the forum that we've played with no game plan and we tried to play more heads up on Friday night, almost Meehanesque with offloading and running at people you complain.

It did seem a little odd to me to revert to Meehan style rugby when we couldn't beat Tigers in any semis with him in charge either.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
cheekywatson (IP Logged)
11 March, 2012 13:08
If we are signing from the Sharks, Meyer Bosman could be on the cards - low-profile quality player to replace carraro.

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