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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 11:38
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I've seen it mentioned in interviews with players.
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- I gather this is seen as a big improvement over how it used to be.

From what source do you gather this and what benchmark?

Geech mentioned it @ the Q&A at the Rec. Brad was very positive about that improvement

Where is the improvement being best witnessed to bear out the Geech/Brad/player statements? First team performances and results? United performances and results?
Gelling/Syncing/Developing better inter-squad nicknames?

Anyone?



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 12:19
FFS Bod..



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 12:26
You're the one making the claim, and you insist you prefer the facts - so where's your problem?



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 12:31
It is perfectly possible for people to think that method a is preferable to method b without being able to demonstrate it with win stats.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 12:40
OK - please imagine what/how the non-tangible, notional betterment is derived? Forget the tangible stuff - I agree that'd be a lot harder for you to stack up or even consider as a comparative plus this season.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
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26 January, 2012 12:43
Get a room boys! (Sm120)

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 13:03
Surely it's not hard to see how the Academy training being integrated with the senior squad will make it easier for them to feel part of the team, and to step up when required. Not to mention that the small size of the Academy squad would make full practice games very hard.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 13:24
Stu,

Bod has a point, you're amongst the first to question mere speculation but have clearly speculated there. I have no problem with speculation, it livens the board and I'm happy to do so myself but you've erred into a slightly self-contradictory area there.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 13:33
I reported what others had said, that's all. I clearly stated it as such. That others had said it is not speculation.

I have nothing against "mere speculation", I don't know why you say that. I have lots against people stating things as facts when the are "mere speculation" though.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 13:38
Perhaps you should invent a "speculation based on feck all info" smiley! (Sm100)

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 13:52
You might as well use the full stop.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
soapinthebath (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 14:10
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Stu,
Bod has a point, you're amongst the first to question mere speculation but have clearly speculated there. I have no problem with speculation, it livens the board and I'm happy to do so myself but you've erred into a slightly self-contradictory area there.

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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 14:24
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Perhaps you should invent a "speculation based on feck all info" smiley! (Sm100)
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Re: New Signings for 2012
Pie-Half (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 16:29
Sorry if you have already mentioned this guys, but am new to the site, (used the old one), but 20 players are out of contract with Cardiff come June. Apart from gethin are there any that we want/need?
Also if the Saffacens are signing Ashton and all the other players, then surely they must be letting some go. Obviously the dont pay their players at all and they all just play for the love of the game whicgh is why they can afford such a squad, but surely some must want foirst team action. I wouldn't mind signing the young winger Short if he becomes available as a starter.

Above all, I would love us to sign some gnarly front 5 players.

Saw Kvesic mentioned as well and i think he could be a real class act as well.


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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bri (IP Logged)
26 January, 2012 16:38
Kvesic for me is the best young player in the country but we will never prise him away and if we could we could field a side of back row players nearly.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
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26 January, 2012 21:02
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Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 12:25
Great news Bendy re-signing, I had wondered if his admiration of Brits might have meant he had signed for Sarries.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 13:12
Perhaps his admiration of Brits has meant that he's staying at Bath.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
mines a black rat (IP Logged)
30 January, 2012 13:14
I really hope so DBF as I think Brits would be fantastic here. The Saffas must have really high hopes for George to let him go.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 20:22
Ok, Brits is out of the equation, more than happy with Webber- by all accounts he is getting better every game.

It also means we still have a pretty large pot for other players.....
Do we think the marquee will be a porp?

I would still like us to sign Morgan, but I guess we will go for another lock instead, but there could be enough in the pot for both if Beaver is our marquee player?

I also think we could do with a lighting quick back

What do you think?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bri (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 20:28
I'd like a new 12 a loose head,second row.
If Belly goes I hope we keep Lilley,if they both go another tight head.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
King Curtis (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 20:40
I think Donald is going to be our marquee player. I think the club will have put him on a middling salary this season and then much higher for the following two seasons thus counting it outside the cap.

I heard from a reliable source that he's the highest paid player in England so would make sense to count him outside the cap.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
DanWiley (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 21:17
Marshie told me (us) that SD was the most expensive player in England. Might be true, I really believe we've got carried away with the idea of signing Carter and paid as much for something close if it is.

Can't see a new midfield player coming in. Between SD, TH, Ob1, Vesty, Williams and Hipkiss we're covered.

Is flats off? Otherwise Catt, Flats and Beech is plenty of loooseheads.

A second row we need. But I can't think of a WC second row I'd spend a marquee salery on.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 21:41
Knowing if Donald is the best paid player in England requires knowing the salaries of the best paid players at every club. I'm not clear who has that kind of access to payroll data.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
soapinthebath (IP Logged)
31 January, 2012 22:37
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Knowing if Donald is the best paid player in England requires knowing the salaries of the best paid players at every club. I'm not clear who has that kind of access to payroll data.

Damien Hopley at the RPA.

I don't think we need to sign a LH, perhaps a 7th choice/cover prop if belly leaves. Other than that we only really need a lock and maybe a 9 depending upon MMM.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Pie-Half (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 10:12
Well if Donald is going to be made marquee, then surely taking that out of our limit should open huge space. What about Adam Jones and Gethin. Both want to stay in the valleys, and we can offer them comparitive salaries to France T14 with the burden of Donald out the way. Also as suggested LM may be forced to retire, we will then be able to get Morgan at 8 (family Brizz ties), or a top notch 2nd row. However in the row, there is no one that jumps out. No real quality NH 4/5's. The available ones in SH are all at the end of their career. Would have taken Skivington, but he is at L.I. now.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Humpo (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 10:22
I have been told that Ben Morgan is signing for Gloucester as Narraway is off to Saints.. He started there and they let him slip through the next, so they are keen to grab him back.

We really do not need a No.8, especially one that is away with International Duty. More than happy with Taylor and a back row of Louw and Fearns.

I really hope we sign a prop that can (metaphorically) rip the opposition a new ar5ehole in the scrum. I would love to sign a scrum half to take over from Classens - I heard rumours we are after Joe Simpson? That would be a superb signing.

I think we really need to decide where we are going to play Banners, and stick to that. Him being versatile is not helping his England chances. He is, IMHO, better on the wing with Barkley and Hipkiss/Williams or hopefully Eastmond at 13. If we decide Banners is going to play for us at 13, then we should spend a decent wodge of cash on a winger. Biggs is our stand out winger and someone needs to help!

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Pie-Half (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 10:27
If you were to cherry pick from the Falcons or Wasps, I would take:

Newcastle

Murray, TH
Golding, LH
Hudson, 2row
Goparth, FH

Wisps

Launchbury, 2row
Rees, 7
Elliot Daly, OC
Wade, W

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
noidea (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:00
I note SIM recently said that key positions such as hooker & scrumhalf need at least 3 quality players each.

So we have Mears , Webber & Batty as Hookers; Claassy, Cook & MMM as SHs.I'm probably reading more into this then there actually is, but would MMM & Batty be considered quality players?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
01 February, 2012 13:06
Out of all of those people Id take proably Wade, Davy and Gopperth
I agree with wat Humpo is saying we dont need a no 8 at the moment Taylor and Skirving are good enough and Louw/Fearns can cover we just need about 3/4 more signings IMO

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Humpo (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:14
Elliot Daly should be a target from Wasps.

He is absolutely incredible and so so young. 13 is a position we need to reinforce and to have him there would be fantastic. Vision, great in defence and out and out pace.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:14
Is Woodburn under contract for next season?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
mines a black rat (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:18
Hasn't Gopperth been down to LI, his missus is keen as she has family in London. Also heard that from a knuckle dragging friend that the Narraway move maybe off as Saints don't fancy sigining another player likely to be called up for the EPS.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bri (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:24
Why would we want Gopperth?good player has he is.would
Ike Murray though,he would be a great addition.Golding is not as good as Catt and Beech.
Van haven or something like that is a very good second row but is a kiwi,Hudson would also be good( ex academy)?

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:26
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I note SIM recently said that key positions such as hooker & scrumhalf need at least 3 quality players each.
So we have Mears , Webber & Batty as Hookers; Claassy, Cook & MMM as SHs.I'm probably reading more into this then there actually is, but would MMM & Batty be considered quality players?

I think so. I seem to recall getting a new SH being mentioned by management only in the context if MMM isn't fit to re-sign.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bod (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:30
Are we so certain not to be in the final relegation fight?



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:33
Yes.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
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01 February, 2012 13:34
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Are we so certain not to be in the final relegation fight?

I'm not so certain. Bath v Newcastle and their new international quality coaching set-up is going to be a huge game.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
OutsideBath (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:56
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Are we so certain not to be in the final relegation fight?

If we beat Newcastle then we will be safe, if not we are in serious trouble.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 13:59
The only thing to question about the Newcastle game is if we get a try bonus point.



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Re: New Signings for 2012
OutsideBath (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:02
For me that view is a little complacent, I hope the players aren't thinking that way.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:03
Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Bri (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:17
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Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale

You forgot to add Newcastle first v Sale seconds.

Behave, Newcastle will not have a chance.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:22
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Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale

I call your "Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale" and raise you a "Bath 46 Northampton 14"



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Re: New Signings for 2012
Goughie (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:23
We're not going to be relegated.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 14:31
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Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale

I call your "Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale" and raise you a "Bath 46 Northampton 14"

Remind me how we did in our home match against Sale? Don't think we quite won by 30 points.

Please carry with your total underestimation of Newcastle, I just hope the boys don't.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
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01 February, 2012 14:58
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Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale

I call your "Newcastle 37 - 7 Sale" and raise you a "Bath 46 Northampton 14"

Remind me how we did in our home match against Sale? Don't think we quite won by 30 points.

Please carry with your total underestimation of Newcastle, I just hope the boys don't.

Remind me of our home game against Irish probably a little better than Newcastle!



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Re: New Signings for 2012
ballsout (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 15:28
You mean the London Irish team that had a 4-5 day turnaround between matches?

Newcastle's form will pick up hugely now. But obviously it's easy to predict guaranteed wins in the Premiership, upsets never happen when you least expect them... course not.

 
Re: New Signings for 2012
CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 15:31
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Re: New Signings for 2012
Bri (IP Logged)
01 February, 2012 15:32
Newcastle's form will pick up hugely now.[/quote]

A bit like ours then,i went to the away fixture and they had nothing,we had our world cup stars away and injuries.
Bath by at least 20pts.

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