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Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Rampant (IP Logged)
19 March, 2012 22:35
That's the rumour in South Africa according to Robbie Fleck on Radio Five live



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Stuart Anderton (IP Logged)
19 March, 2012 22:40
They haven't held the interviews yet.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Rampant (IP Logged)
19 March, 2012 22:53
Lip service?



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Tall Paul (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 01:12
Quick, Bruce, sign up Lancaster!



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bri (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 07:21
Timmys interview is on Thursday according to the Times.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bathovalballer (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 07:47
I think Mallet has the job as England would surely have announced Lancaster after Saturday's performance! Also as there had been no news on Wig and Farrell. It would have been a real coo to have done it at the height of his achievements and kept the success story rolling! But of course we are dealing with the RFU here!!!

I am sure they will go for Mallett becvause of his wider experience and probably offer Lancaster something which if I was him I would reject!

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 08:27
Coo-Luvvaduck indeed!



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 08:48

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 08:57
They'll go for Mallet as he's the best man for the job and they haven't got time for SL to grow into the job ala SCW.
Combined with Wayne Smith this represents the best chance of a COmpetitive England side in a Home World Cup which will give the RFU a better chance of swelling the coffers their prime concern.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 09:00
If it were to transpire Hux, do you think they'd also have a say in the development-academy structure/process as well?



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 09:16
I would hope so but the man to transform all that is Eddie Jones his attention to detail is second to none but I can't see them spending all that is required to get all of them.
Lancaster needs a Smith to be a success whereas Mallett combining with Smith is a dream combination.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Which Tyler (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 11:36
agreed with all that



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
20 March, 2012 11:59
It's a rumour.

Probably spread so that, if he does get the job when a decision IS made, someone can say 'I told you first'.

Wait for facts !

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 12:01
But David, waiting for facts is so boring!!! The RFU are very bad at keeping secrets as well.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Susanne (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 12:16
Quote:
on Radio Five live

Is this the 5 Live that was this morning announcing Cips move to Sale as if it were hot news?



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
devizes bath fan (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 12:16
Lancaster with Robinson as DOR wouldn't be too bad with an experienced and proven attack coach. SIM should be let go using the same methods as with Old Yeller.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Which Tyler (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 12:24
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David in the Hamptons Stand
It's a rumour.
Probably spread so that, if he does get the job when a decision IS made, someone can say 'I told you first'.

Wait for facts !
It's a rumour, but I think it's known that the RFU are flying him over for an interview for Thursday.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
20 March, 2012 12:28
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devizes bath fan
Lancaster with Robinson as DOR wouldn't be too bad with an experienced and proven attack coach. SIM should be let go using the same methods as with Old Yeller.

(Sm22)(Sm22)

But without the tears!



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
21 March, 2012 16:30
Quote:
Which Tyler
Quote:
David in the Hamptons Stand
It's a rumour.
Probably spread so that, if he does get the job when a decision IS made, someone can say 'I told you first'.

Wait for facts !
It's a rumour, but I think it's known that the RFU are flying him over for an interview for Thursday.

I don't doubt it ..... but that is slightly different from 'he's got the job'.

There is an interview process going on, run by retained headhunters. In my opinion, the decision will NOT be made until that process is finished.

I accept thats not quite as exciting as having a guessing game about who's got the job !!!

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
21 March, 2012 16:31
I very much doubt that the headhunters are as involved as we may be led to believe, I think that was more of a PR stunt than anything.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
21 March, 2012 16:36
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marshie10
I very much doubt that the headhunters are as involved as we may be led to believe, I think that was more of a PR stunt than anything.

Even though they were named ?

Trust me, top headhunters do not allow their name to be used as a 'figurehead' - their reputation is too valuable to them.

What evidence do you have for your assertion and, if it is true, why has the process taken so long?

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
21 March, 2012 16:45
A friend of my fathers run a headhunting firm and in his opinion, and from the chats he's had with certain people - the RFU aren't really using them to do the recruiting, but more to set out the recruitment template. It would be mad to have the headhunters picking the next England coach.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
comedowner (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 00:44
Mallet the man that picks a 7 at 9 keep the cowboy well away

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 08:27
Mallet the man who without a 9 picked his most talented player at 9.
Mallets time at Italy coincided with the ritirement of DOmingez and Troncon a problem they still haven't addressed teh Italian Hierachy didn't like his idea of bringing in a couple of SH players; with Itaslian HEritage; at a young age and developing them where would they be now if they had ??



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
CoochieCoo (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 08:51
I recall Hux having a similar campaign for Brian Ashton on'ere, though to come to Bath. Whatever happened to him! winking smiley



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
hooker 72 (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 10:33
not sure why lancaster hasnt been given the job, hes transformed english rugby within weeks, has a group of talented youngsters who give their all for him and the jersey andthe rfu want to rip that up, the players have said without being too blunt who they want, look at what hes done in such a short time and came within minutes of a six nations title. lancaster deserves the job, why this obsession with international experience, id said lancaster has passed the test.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
callmeMrTibbs (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 10:49
My concern for Lancaster is that he's in a honeymoon period. He's done brilliantly but it'll only take a few defeats in the Autumn for the press to turn. And that could destroy him. Whereas I think Mallett has been around the block and will cope with the flak far better.

So perhaps the RFU should be investing in Lancaster with a view to him being the next England coach after Mallett.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 11:13
That's be the best option cmMT.
SL is 43 in October, Mallett will be 56 the same month.

I also think it'd be important to have Mallett on board for the SA tour if England are to get anything tangible out of the AIs

This is how they'll pan out

England v Fiji

Saturday 10 November, 2.30pm

England v Australia

Saturday 17 November, 2.30pm

England v South Africa

Saturday 24 November, 2.30pm

England v New Zealand

Saturday 1 December, 2.30pm



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 12:49
Never in DOubt Coochie.
I don't doubt he's done well Hooker its whether he can lead ever onwards and upwards I doubt he hasn't been coaching at the highest level enough 1 season of GP(relegated) isn't a good cv. England haven't got the time to devlop him on the job ala SCW. 2015 is imminent and we need the experience of Mallett to accelerate this squads progress.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
mines a black rat (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 13:13
Totally agree Hux, and Smith would be allowed to focus on what he wanted and that was the interaction with the players.



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
22 March, 2012 19:19
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A friend of my fathers run a headhunting firm and in his opinion, and from the chats he's had with certain people - the RFU aren't really using them to do the recruiting, but more to set out the recruitment template. It would be mad to have the headhunters picking the next England coach.

Why don't you have a longer chat with the 'friend of your father', so you can develop a better understanding of what headhunters DO (and don't do). They do not 'pick' the successful candidate. They seek suitable recruits, screen them, interview them and make a recommendation to their client, perhaps of a short list, usually accompanying them in final interviews to aid systematic selection, using the latest techniques. There is no need for them to have a deep understanding of the technical content of the post, providing they can agree with their client (and frequently persuade them to clarify) the essential and desirable requirements for the candidates.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bri (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 19:24
I was head hunted for my security job at Abbeywood,they reconed I was the best front gate operator but I got conned nobody else wanted to go to bl--dy Bristol



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
comedowner (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 19:48
Headhunters are legal bank robbers

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
WilliamBlessing (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:00
The RFU have probably got a budget to spend before the end of the tax year. More jobs for the boys whilst passing the buck at the same time.

Why should Stuart Lancaster's England side worry about losing to southern Hemisphere sides in the Autumn? They are young and fearless. Tackled like Lions.

What a lack of self confidence within the RFU if we bring in the latest model off the Grand dad production line. About as ridiculous as giving it to Lurch in the first place. Where's he gone?

Next thing we know Mallett will be recalling Cipriani.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
annie blackthorn (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:07
It goes back again to
Do they want a name,
or
someone who can coach and is still 'hungry'.

Doh!



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:08
David, I was a headhunter for quite a while. I know what it involves and I know that the RFU are not really using them.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bri (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:11
Quote:
marshie10
David, I was a headhunter for quite a while. I know what it involves and I know that the RFU are not really using them.

Marshie did you have anything to do. With me going to Bristol.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:18
Yes, at the end of the day, you were the outstanding candidate.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:24
"It goes back again to
Do they want a name,
or
someone who can coach and is still 'hungry'. "

Or a name who can coach and is still hungry !!??(Sm160)



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Which Tyler (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 20:29
Quote:
annie blackthorn
It goes back again to
Do they want a name,
or
someone who can coach and is still 'hungry'.

Doh!
are they mutually exclusive?


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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 23:40
Brian, were you there today when I visited Abbeywood?

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
22 March, 2012 23:53
Abbeywood isn't that where the Beatles recorded their album ??



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Gareth Redux (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 00:21
Nick Mallet could do for England what Ian McGeechan has done for Bath!

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Huxster (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 00:23
Stuart Lancaster could do for England what he did for Leeds oh no he can't theres no relegation in INt Rugby



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
Bod (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 08:40
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Huxster
Stuart Lancaster could do for England what he did for Leeds oh no he can't theres no relegation in INt Rugby

Not yet there isn't



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Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
23 March, 2012 12:32
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David, I was a headhunter for quite a while. I know what it involves and I know that the RFU are not really using them.

Oh Really?

So, now, it wasn't the friend of your father's that marked your card but your own extensive experience and inside track. A bit of a change of tack isn't it?

I'll leave others to judge.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 12:34
No, it was the friend of my fathers who has considerably more experience and contacts that I did.

Your aggression is amusing me.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
stuckinlondon (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 12:35
God yet another thread descends into I know better then you, children grow up!

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
marshie10 (IP Logged)
23 March, 2012 12:39
stuckinlondon, this debate is hardly different to two people debating over which player is better. Plus, the debate is on topic, unlike quite a few other that occur.

 
Re: Nick Mallett has the England Job!
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23 March, 2012 12:43
ummm......

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