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Discussion started by terracehugger , 18 February, 2012 17:27
Glaws match
terracehugger 18 February, 2012 17:27
Got home depressed, frustrated and wet through!
Forwards made a reasonable fist of it today, but backs need a shake-up.
Classy had a nightmare. Slow, predictable, awful inept kicking.
Heathcote had little chance with Classy's performance.
Barclay was generally good.
Banahan was and is a total waste of space at 13. A real wasted asset. He is a winger!
Biggsy gave his all as usual and IMHO, our best player.
Woodburn has still lots to give and learn.
Vesty good in physical defence but again his kicking was woeful.
Can't honestly see us getting into top 6 now.

Re: Glaws match
newtwoeye 18 February, 2012 17:29
classens is the worst scrumhalf ive ever seen play rugby.. Donkey cost you the game. Vesty shouldnt be at full back. The whole bath team looks like one big set of square pegs in round holes barring louw.

looking more and more like a joke of a team. Mind you they werent helped by that absolute fucwit Barnes.

Re: Glaws match
bathstigg 18 February, 2012 17:44
Classeens hasn't played well Since Butch James left but it's ridiculous to say he's the worst scrum half in the Prem. Time to give Chris Cook a chance.We are still only 6 or 7 points off top six.

Re: Glaws match
newtwoeye 18 February, 2012 17:46
no, i said, play rugby. not the lowly premiership

Re: Glaws match
johnnyf 18 February, 2012 18:40
To watch a good team play well but still lose is acceptable.
To watch the inept performance served up again today was shameful.
It's about time somebody stood up and actually took the blame.
Sorry to disagree terracehugger but I think their front 5 controlled the game.
We were like rabbits caught in the headlights - clueless and nowhere to go.

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 18 February, 2012 19:33
If we were inept, presumably scraping a win against us means Glaws are scarcely less inept.



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
Widcombe boy 18 February, 2012 19:43
Just too fed up to comment.

Losing at home to Gloucester. Not good enough. CRAP

Re: Glaws match
Rinkadink 18 February, 2012 19:47
Quote:
terracehugger
Forwards made a reasonable fist of it today, but backs need a shake-up.

Thought your front row got murdered today, Barnes seemed to let them off the hook several times too so the points difference could have been greater.

First half was very enjoyable for a neutral but in the second only one side seemed to want to play rugby, Classens should take a lot of the blame for that though.

Re: Glaws match
Kidney Stone 18 February, 2012 19:50
Bath were clueless, continually kicking possession away.

Claassy had the worst game I have seen him play in the BB&W, Vestys kicking from hand was shocking, Olly was little better.

On the plus side it was good to see some agression from Hoops, I thought he had a pretty good game, as did Taylor and Louw.

Re: Glaws match
nixworld2 18 February, 2012 20:00
The first half was ok, but the second!!!
Brainless kicking, no structure, no power...awful. Classy seemed to lose his head completely.
A waste of my saturday, and I got home wet, cold, and pretty angry!

Re: Glaws match
P G Tips 18 February, 2012 20:25
Ironically & frustratingly, we could have won that game. From the moment we equalised, I thought & hoped that we would. What followed was not more scrapping for every ball, more positive driving play, more inventive moves (as had happened in the previous 10 minutes), but dithering, delay,dropped balls and aimless kicking.

We seemed to lose all structure and wit in the last 15 minutes.

Glaws were good enough to beat us - but neither side looked like Top 4 contenders today.

PG

Re: Glaws match
ballsout 18 February, 2012 20:50
"We are still only 6 or 7 points off top six"

FFS, can we give up on this pipe dream of top 6 finish, we're nowhere near good enough. We play no rugby whatsoever. I'm not talking about attractive rugby or pragmatic rugby, I'm talking about BASIC, BOG STANDARD rugby. Truly shocking

Still not time to stop looking over our shoulder at the teams below...

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 21:46
I think the mot de jour is "predictable". We are transparently predictable and stupidly easy to defend.

What the hell are you up to Brad?

Re: Glaws match
Kidney Stone 18 February, 2012 22:23
Quote:
Gareth Redux
I think the mot de jour is "predictable". We are transparently predictable and stupidly easy to defend.
What the hell are you up to Brad?

This sums it up well. On the rare occasion that we entered the Gloucester 22, with the sole exception of the Biggs try, we did not look dangerous. Thanks heavens that we have Biggsy to give 110% every week.

I did smile when he was pinged for a high tackle on Jim Hamilton.

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 18 February, 2012 22:30
Quote:
Kidney Stone
On the rare occasion that we entered the Gloucester 22, with the sole exception of the Biggs try, we did not look dangerous.

On a point of accuracy, did you forget the multiple phases we spent seemingly inches from the line until Glaws gave away a penalty. (How was that not a yellow card by the way?)



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
Kidney Stone 18 February, 2012 22:34
Yep multiple phases, for sure. Going nowhere!

They could still be recycling it now and still be a few metres short.

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 22:37
"On a point of accuracy"

I now like you again Stu, You're caricaturing yourself!!

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 18 February, 2012 22:37
Thete's me thinking that Glaws infringing had something to do with it.

We played poorly enough without marking down the things we did do.



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 18 February, 2012 22:39
Quote:
Gareth Redux
"On a point of accuracy"
I now like you again Stu, You're caricaturing yourself!!

At least those are all common English non-pretentious words!



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 22:40
?

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 22:41
As a meeja type you've never heard of the word caricature? You jest surely.

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 18 February, 2012 22:42
Think about it...



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
B4thB4ck 18 February, 2012 22:43
Quote:
TCM2007
Quote:
Kidney Stone
On the rare occasion that we entered the Gloucester 22, with the sole exception of the Biggs try, we did not look dangerous.

On a point of accuracy, did you forget the multiple phases we spent seemingly inches from the line until Glaws gave away a penalty. (How was that not a yellow card by the way?)

Can I refer you to my '5 Metres Out' thread?

I think that pen would have been a yellow if it had been a repeat offence, but it wasn't.

Our lack of ambition at times when have the opposition pack in trouble is a concern. Yes, an easy 3 points but how many other times did we have ourselves in such an attacking position?

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 22:46
I do Stu, you should try it occasionally. You love the eloquent put down so any professed naivety is clearly false.

Re: Glaws match
3Quarter 18 February, 2012 23:11
TCM2007, I don't think Glos were much better than us today, but they won, away from home, when not playing well - that probably says more about just how far we have slipped under the present coaching staff.

Re: Glaws match
Gareth Redux 18 February, 2012 23:13
Indeed 3Q, I texted a friend that an awful Glaws had beaten a woeful Bath. C'est ca.

Re: Glaws match
Bri 19 February, 2012 01:31
I would have like us to be a little more pro active with our replacements.Belly could have come on?Mercer came on late to late to change anything?Ovens,if you read Bristols reports has been outstanding,never got on,Carraro on to late.
I don't agree put the bench on when all seems lost,I expect a impact from the bench but that ain't going to happen with 5 mins to go.
Positives I thought Mearsy who hasn't been mentioned had a good game and his grubber for Biggys try was sublime.Vestys defence under the high ball.Louw yet again gave his all as did Hooper.Biggs is the man.

Re: Glaws match
Gloucester BAZ 19 February, 2012 02:25
Gloucester were away. They played some superb rugby and scored an excellent try.Quera and Savage butchered at least 2 others.Our pack took Bath to the cleaners, and Barnes did not reflect that superiority. Bath Gloucester games are always pretty tight but if I was a Bath supporter I would be happy with the point. You got closer than you should have done.

Re: Glaws match
Bri 19 February, 2012 03:06
Not sure your pack took ours to the cleaners.
Harden was under pressure from Catty,I thought Lawson and Woods were good in the loose though.
Having had a few drams and rewatched the game on sky,I feel its a game we could of and should have won.

Re: Glaws match
Old Bathonian 19 February, 2012 09:14
Quote:
Brian4455
Not sure your pack took ours to the cleaners.
Harden was under pressure from Catty,I thought Lawson and Woods were good in the loose though.
Having had a few drams and rewatched the game on sky,I feel its a game we could of and should have won.

I know you are of the "glass half-full" persuassion but how on earth do you come to that conclusion!

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 19 February, 2012 12:40
Quote:
Gloucester BAZ
They played some superb rugby

Sorry must have missed that bit.



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
exbathballboy 19 February, 2012 14:46
We need another top scrum half to compete with Classsens. He can be very slow and frustrating at times. He does have a good game once in a while but not constant enough.
He was the worse player on the pitch yesturday!
Cook is not good enough and won't be. He may become a good squad player though!

Re: Glaws match
recman 19 February, 2012 14:57
Quote:
Brian4455
Not sure your pack took ours to the cleaners.
Harden was under pressure from Catty,I thought Lawson and Woods were good in the loose though.
Having had a few drams and rewatched the game on sky,I feel its a game we could of and should have won.

My feeling having got home from the game was that we were pretty poor and Glos weren't much better. Having watched it on TV when I got home I was quite surprised to see the commentators and panel didn't seem to be so 'down' on the game. In fact they were positively gushing about some of the play (from both sides), given the conditions. Now I don't know what to think!

I realise it's the commentators' job to hype thngs up a bit more than reality, but...

Re: Glaws match
TCM2007 19 February, 2012 15:19
There were a number of tweets fron neutrals saying it was a good game.

Inevitably when you lose a derby game in the rain and cold you have a more negative view.



Stuart

Former ed.

Re: Glaws match
OutsideBath 19 February, 2012 15:47
All we can do is congratulate Gloucester for being better than us in every department and winning the game. We can have absolutely no complaints about the result or where it leaves us.

Such a shame that some of their fans weren't magnanimous in victory. On leaving the ground I could only describe them as football fans trying to stir up trouble.

Re: Glaws match
annie blackthorn 19 February, 2012 16:10
OB - No change there then.
There is a rumour that the only match the stewards are briefed to expect trouble is the Glaws event.

Re: Glaws match
recman 19 February, 2012 16:45
Talking of stewards, I know there have been negative comments about their jobsworth attitude over the past couple of seasons, but this season they seem to have gone the other way! Those in the Hamptons (now IPL?) hardly ever bother to check anyone's ticket during the half time interval, and yesterday they seemed to let anyone who wanted to get out of the rain into the stand at the start of the game. When I looked behind me I was amused to see an extra 'standing' row at the top of the Hamptons.

Is it a different security company this season?

Re: Glaws match
Lebowski 19 February, 2012 16:47
Some very ungracious comments on here. Perhaps naiively I expect better from ERE.

To describe Glos as awful is about as ignorant a comment as I have seen on here for a long time Mr Redux. Conditions such as yesterday are great equalisers. I don't think any team would have really sparkled in them!

Re: Glaws match
OutsideBath 19 February, 2012 16:49
From what I saw and heard yesterday then it won't be long before the Gloucester fans get their wish and there's trouble. That will be a very sad day and I hope I'm not there to see it.

Strange how they can't just enjoy winning the derby and keeping their top 4/6 place aspirations alive whilst at the same time killing off ours.

Re: Glaws match
bert68 19 February, 2012 17:00
as a glaws fan i have not been to bath since our 1st win at your ground 4 years ago; at the match i got sworn, horn blown right in my ear at & kicked in the back throughout the match - by a 'lady' in a bath shirt.

then again the previous year i sat next to a group who could not have been more friendly.

perhaps all teams have those who follow them who should find another hobby & those who understand what rugby's about

Re: Glaws match
Bri 19 February, 2012 17:07
Well I shoke the hands of the Gloucester fans in front of me at the end of the game and although I find them different to me IE web fingers generally I find them a good laugh but not very humble.

Re: Glaws match
grfc65 19 February, 2012 17:23
outsidebath you have taken over 24 hours to mention Gloucester fans wanting trouble, yet i have seen nothing on local news about it or in fact any other fan mention it, maybe they were happy to win and celebrating and as you lost a derby it wound you up abit... on the subject of fans behaviour could you explain the booing of Tom Savage whilst he down recieving treatment after the Biggs high tackle...very football fan like behaviour dont you think?

Re: Glaws match
Bri 19 February, 2012 17:29
I believe every fan at the game realised Savage was play acting to get Biggs a yellow card,very football player like.even the Web fingered ones in front of me agreed.

Re: Glaws match
grfc65 19 February, 2012 17:40
LOL oh yes i remember it now,just after the high tackle Savage jumped up waving an imaginary card at the ref.....my mistake sorry

Re: Glaws match
Bri 19 February, 2012 17:43
He just as well had,luckily the ref knew he was play acting,hence no card.

Re: Glaws match
m0rris 19 February, 2012 17:43
Every group of fans has it's high's and lows, the worst fan I've ever come across was wearing the BB&W. I am sure that there would be more problems at the Gloucester matches as tensions are that much higher with a local derby.... please lets not turn this into another thread like the one we had after the Woss game.

Re: Glaws match
Teach 19 February, 2012 18:34
So how am I feeling today, any better? In short no. I am beginning to run out of patience with the inept performances that are dealt out to us week after week by certain players. There was a huge lack of ambition on the pitch today. Biggs continues to be a shining light, Banahan is totally out of it as a centre and Classens had a nightmare.Thought perhaps we could gift wrap Moody, Vestey and Hipkiss and send them up the M4 to join our other outstanding signing (sic) Mr Hape! Why are we so unwilling to use our bench properly for goodness sake SIM.Its no good bringing players on with 5 minutes left to play. Surely Cook should have been on. Watching the Tigers game this afternoon was not doing my nervous system any good either. Talk about never say die. Almost felt sorry for the Sarries but managed to overcome that. We know all too well what it feels like to loose with the last kick of the game. We will certainly need to up the performance if we are going to make the final of the cup. Come on boys, lets have some real commitment please.

Re: Glaws match
Severus 19 February, 2012 18:39
Quote:
annie blackthorn
OB - No change there then.
There is a rumour that the only match the stewards are briefed to expect trouble is the Glaws event.

What about Barf fans booing Savage when he was injured and receiving treatment following Biggs' high tackle? Very football-esq and not rugby behaviour as I know it.

Re: Glaws match
Teach 19 February, 2012 18:43
High tackle my eye. Right in front of me, Biggs would need a step ladder. Some fine amatuer dramatics unappreciated by the supporters!

Re: Glaws match
Severus 19 February, 2012 19:12
Quote:
Teach
High tackle my eye. Right in front of me, Biggs would need a step ladder. Some fine amatuer dramatics unappreciated by the supporters!

Clearly high and shown on replay by Sky. Biggs isn't a dirty player but just got this one wrong and it was dangerous and resulted in Savage needing treatment.

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