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BathSalmon (IP Logged)

All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 11:11
Hi,

With all the speculation on new signings, where we need strengthening within our squad, can we wait till end of November for reinforcements etc, I thought it would be helpful to see how we are currently set compared to the other teams in the league.

The below table gives the overall size of the squads and the make up of 1st team v academy:

TEAM			TOTAL SQ	1st TEAM SQ	ACADEMY SQ
Bath Rugby		56		42		14
			
Exeter Chiefs		54		44		10
Newcastle Falcons	64		49		15
Gloucester		56		42		14
London Irish		52		43		 9
Leicester Tigers	52		37		15
Harlequins		59		42		17
Northampton Saints	54		38		16
Sale Sharks		39		35		 4
Saracens		58		41		17
Worcester Warriors	56		43		13
Wasps			49		40		 9
			
Other Squad Average	53		41		12


Next two tables concentrate on the 1st team squads only.

Forwards ONLY:

TEAM			Prop	Hooker	Locks	Back Row
Bath Rugby		7	4	5	9
				
Exeter Chiefs		7	4	5	9
Newcastle Falcons	6	3	9	9
Gloucester		7	2	4	6
London Irish		9	4	5	8
Leicester Tigers	5	4	6	6
Harlequins		8	4	5	6
Northampton Saints	6	3	6	5
Sale Sharks		7	3	4	7
Saracens		7	4	5	8
Worcester Warriors	6	4	5	9
Wasps			8	3	6	7
				
Other Squad Average	7	3	5	7


Backs ONLY:

TEAM			Scrum Halves	Fly Halves	Centres		Back Three
Bath Rugby		4		3		 3		7
					
Exeter Chiefs		4		3		 5		7
Newcastle Falcons	3		5		 7		7
Gloucester		3		3		10		7
London Irish		3		2		 4		8
Leicester Tigers	3		3		 4		6
Harlequins		3		3		 6		7
Northampton Saints	3		3		 6		6
Sale Sharks		2		1		 4		7
Saracens		4		2		 5		6
Worcester Warriors	4		3		 5		7
Wasps			3		2		 6		5
				
Other Squad Average	3		3		 6		7

What can we take from these table?

We no longer have the smallest squad in the premiership, Sale and Leicester are the smallest. Sale though only have four players listed in their Academy on their website so maybe they do things slightly differently to everyone else. That said sale and Leicesters 1st team squads of 35 and 37 respectively do look a little light on numbers as well.

Obviously some players can cover multiple positions - so Sale's single 1st team flyhalf AJ MacGinty will also be covered by Sam James and James O'Connor.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions to the rest of it.

LASTLY here are the full squads I have quoted!





BATH RUGBY		
POS			Player				Contract
Prop			Nathan Catt			1st Team
Prop			Max Lahiff			1st Team
Prop			Nick Auterac			1st Team
Prop			Beno Obano			1st Team
Prop			Will Vaughan			Academy
		
Hooker			Ross Batty			1st Team
Hooker			Michael van Vurren		1st Team
Hooker			Tom Dunn			1st Team
Hooker			Jack Walker			1st Team
Hooker			Gabriel Oghre			Academy
		
Prop			Shaun Knight			1st Team
Prop			Kane Palma-Newport		1st Team
Prop			Henry Thomas			1st Team
Prop			Kieran Verden			Academy
Prop			Sam Nixon			Academy
Prop			Jack Edmonson			Academy
		
Locks			Luke Charteris			1st Team
Locks			Dave Attwood			1st Team
Locks			Rhys Davies			Academy
Locks			Elliott Stooke			1st Team
Locks			Alex Humfrey			Academy
Locks			Levi Douglas			1st Team
Locks			Charlie Ewels			1st Team
		
Back Row		James Phillips			1st Team
Back Row		Matt Garvey			1st Team
Back Row		Tom Ellis			1st Team
Back Row		Miles Reid			Academy
Back Row		Josh Bayliss			Academy
		
Back Row		Francois Louw			1st Team
Back Row		Guy Mercer (C)			1st Team
Back Row		Sam Underhill			1st Team
Back Row		Sid Blackmore			Academy
		
Back Row		Paul Grant			1st Team
Back Row		Taulupe Faletau			1st Team
Back Row		Zach Mercer			1st Team
		
Scrum Halves		Kahn Fotuali'i			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Darren Allinson			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Chris Cook			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Will Homer			1st Team
		
Fly Halves		Rhys Priestland			1st Team
Fly Halves		Freddie Burns			1st Team
Fly Halves		Josh Lewis			1st Team
Fly Halves		Rory Jennings			Academy
		
Centres			Ben Tapuai			1st Team
Centres			Jonathan Joseph			1st Team
Centres			Max Clark			1st Team
		
Back Three		Aled Brew			1st Team
Back Three		Matt Banahan			1st Team
Back Three		Semesa Rokoduguni		1st Team
Back Three		Jeff Williams			1st Team
Back Three		Jack Wilson			1st Team
Back Three		Harry Davies			Academy
Back Three		Tom Homer			1st Team
Back Three		Will Partington			Academy
Back Three		Anthony Watson			1st Team
Back Three		Darren Atkins			Academy
		
[size=medium]EXETER CHIEFS		
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Luke Cowan-Dickie		1st Team
Hooker			Shaun Malton			1st Team
Hooker			Elvis Taione			1st Team
Hooker			Jack Yeandle			1st Team
Hooker			Paul Davis			Academy
Hooker			Jack Innard			Academy
		
Prop			Tomas Francis			1st Team
Prop			Alec Hepburn			1st Team
Prop			Greg Holmes			1st Team
Prop			Moray Low			1st Team
Prop			Ben Moon			1st Team
Prop			Carl Rimmer			1st Team
Prop			Harry Williams			1st Team
Prop			Billy Keast			Academy
		
Locks			Don Armand			1st Team
Locks			Ollie Atkins			1st Team
Locks			Dave Dennis			1st Team
Locks			Jonny Hill			1st Team
Locks			Mitch Lees			1st Team
Locks			Josh Caulfield			Academy
Locks			Ed Holmes			Academy
Locks			Sean Lonsdale			Academy
		
Back Row		Dave Ewers			1st Team
Back Row		James Freeman			1st Team
Back Row		Matt Kvesic			1st Team
Back Row		Julian Salvi			1st Team
Back Row		Sam Simmonds			1st Team
Back Row		Ben White			1st Team
Back Row		Kai Horstmann			1st Team
Back Row		Toby Salmon			1st Team
Back Row		Thomas Waldrom			1st Team
		
Scrum Halves		Will Chudley			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Jack Maunder			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Stuart Townsend			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Nic White			1st Team
		
Fly Halves		Joe Simmonds			1st Team
Fly Halves		Henry Slade			1st Team
Fly Halves		Gareth Steenson			1st Team
		
Centres			Max Bodilly			1st Team
Centres			Michele Campagnaro		1st Team
Centres			Ollie Devoto			1st Team
Centres			Sam Hill			1st Team
Centres			Ian Whitten			1st Team
Centres			Tom Hendrickson			Academy
Centres			Pete Laverick			Academy
		
Back Three		Matt Jess			1st Team
Back Three		Tom O'Flaherty			1st Team
Back Three		James Short			1st Team
Back Three		Olly Woodburn			1st Team
Back Three		Phil Dollman			1st Team
Back Three		Jack Nowell			1st Team
Back Three		Lachlan Turner			1st Team
Back Three		Harrison Cully			Academy
Back Three		Harry Strong			Academy
		
GLOUCESTER		
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Richard Hibbard			1st Team
Hooker			Motu Matu'u			1st Team
Hooker			Joe Mullis			Academy
Hooker			Henry Walker			Academy
		
Prop			John Afoa			1st Team
Prop			Fraser Balmain			1st Team
Prop			Gareth Denman			1st Team
Prop			Josh Hohneck			1st Team
Prop			Paddy McAllister		1st Team
Prop			Cameron Orr			1st Team
Prop			Val Rapava-Ruskin		1st Team
Prop			Ciaran Knight			Academy
Prop			Alex Seville			Academy
		
Locks			Tom Denton			1st Team
Locks			Mariano Galarza			1st Team
Locks			Tom Savage			1st Team
Locks			Jeremy Thrush			1st Team
Locks			Callum Allen			Academy
Locks			Alex Craig			Academy
Locks			Alfie North			Academy
		
Back Row		Freddie Clarke			1st Team
Back Row		Lewis Ludlow			1st Team
Back Row		Ross Moriarty			1st Team
Back Row		Jacob Rowan			1st Team
Back Row		Gareth Evans			1st Team
Back Row		Ben Morgan			1st Team
Back Row		Charlie Beckett			Academy
Back Row		Aaron Hinkley			Academy
Back Row		Jake Polledri			Academy
Back Row		Will Safe			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Callum Braley			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Willi Heinz			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Ben Vellacott			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Charlie Chapman			Academy
Scrum Halves		Harry Randall			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Billy Burns			1st Team
Fly Halves		Lloyd Evans			1st Team
Fly Halves		Owen Williams			1st Team
Fly Halves		Carwyn Penny			Academy
		
Centres			Mark Atkinson			1st Team
Centres			Matt Scott			1st Team
Centres			Andy Symons			1st Team
Centres			Ollie Thorley			1st Team
Centres			Henry Trinder			1st Team
Centres			Billy Twelvetrees		1st Team
Centres			Ed Bogue			1st Team
Centres			Elliott Creed			1st Team
Centres			Tom Seabrook			1st Team
Centres			Mason Tonks			1st Team
		
Back Three		David Halaifonua		1st Team
Back Three		Jonny May			1st Team
Back Three		Henry Purdy			1st Team
Back Three		Charlie Sharples		1st Team
Back Three		Tom Marshall			1st Team
Back Three		Jason Woodward			1st Team
Back Three		Tom Hudson			1st Team
		
HARLEQUINS			
POS			Player				Contract
Prop			Will Collier			1st Team
Prop			Cameron Holenstein		1st Team
Prop			Joe Marler			1st Team
Prop			Kyle Sinckler			1st Team
Prop			Mark Lambert			1st Team
Prop			Adam Jones			1st Team
Prop			Phil Swainston			1st Team
Prop			Lewis Boyce			1st Team
Prop			George Head			Academy
Prop			Josh Ibuanokpe			Academy
		
Hooker			Rob Buchanan			1st Team
Hooker			Joe Gray			1st Team
Hooker			Dave Ward			1st Team
Hooker			Elia Elia			1st Team
Hooker			Charlie Piper			Academy
		
Locks			James Horwill			1st Team
Locks			Charlie Matthews		1st Team
Locks			George Merrick			1st Team
Locks			Sam Twomey			1st Team
Locks			Ben Glynn			1st Team
Locks			John Okafor			Academy
Locks			Stan South			Academy
		
Back Row		James Chisholm			1st Team
Back Row		Jack Clifford			1st Team
Back Row		Mat Luamanu			1st Team
Back Row		Chris Robshaw			1st Team
Back Row		Luke Wallace			1st Team
Back Row		Renaldo Bothma			1st Team
Back Row		Dino Lamb			Academy
Back Row		Archie White			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Charlie Mulchrone		1st Team
Scrum Halves		Danny Care			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Dave Lewis			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Calum Waters			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Ruaridh Jackson			1st Team
Fly Halves		Tim Swiel			1st Team
Fly Halves		Dimetri Catrikilis		1st Team
Fly Halves		James Lang			Academy
Fly Halves		Marcus Smith			Academy
		
Centres			George Lowe			1st Team
Centres			Jamie Roberts			1st Team
Centres			Harry Sloan			1st Team
Centres			Winston Stanley			1st Team
Centres			Joe Marchant			1st Team
Centres			Francis Saili			1st Team
Centres			Jake Hennessey			Academy
Centres			Cadan Murley			Academy
		
Back Three		Mike Brown			1st Team
Back Three		Aaron Morris			1st Team
Back Three		Ross Chisholm			1st Team
Back Three		Sam Apland-Robinson		Academy
Back Three		Tim Visser			1st Team
Back Three		Marland Yarde			1st Team
Back Three		Charlie Walker			1st Team
Back Three		Alofa Alofa			1st Team
Back Three		Henry Cheeseman			Academy
Back Three		Max Coyle			Academy
Back Three		Gabriel Ibitoye			Academy
Back Three		Jonas Mikalcius			Academy
		
LEICESTER TIGERS		
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Greg (?)Bateman			1st Team
Hooker			George McGuigan			1st Team
Hooker			Harry Thacker			1st Team
Hooker			Tom Youngs			1st Team
Hooker			Harry Mahoney			Academy
		
Prop			Pat Cilliers			1st Team
Prop			Dan Cole			1st Team
Prop			Ellis Genge			1st Team
Prop			Logo Mulipola			1st Team
Prop			Rizzo				1st Team
Prop			Ben Bates			Academy
Prop			Sam Grahamslaw			Academy
Prop			Joe Hayes			Academy
Prop			Owen Hills			Academy
			
Locks			Dan Barrow			1st Team
Locks			Mike Fitzgerald			1st Team
Locks			Graham Kitchener		1st Team
Locks			Ed Slater			1st Team
Locks			Harry Wells			1st Team
Locks			Mike Williams			1st Team
Locks			Joe Maksyimw			Academy
		
Back Row		Tom Croft			1st Team
Back Row		Will Evans			1st Team
Back Row		Luke Hamilton			1st Team
Back Row		Kalamafoni			1st Team
Back Row		Brendon O'Connor		1st Team
Back Row		Ryan				1st Team
Back Row		Tommy Reffell			Academy
Back Row		Fred Tuilagi			Academy
Back Row		Sam Lewis			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Sam Harrison			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Kitto				1st Team
Scrum Halves		Ben Youngs			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Harry Simmons			Academy
Scrum Halves		Ben White			Academy
		
Fly Halves		George Ford			1st Team
Fly Halves		Joe Ford			1st Team
Fly Halves		Matt Toomua			1st Team
Fly Halves		Tom Hardwick			Academy
		
Centres			George Catchpole		1st Team
Centres			Owen				1st Team
Centres			Matt Smith			1st Team
Centres			Manu Tuilagi			1st Team
Centres			Jordan Olowfela			Academy
Centres			Charlie Thacker			Academy
		
Back Three		Tom Brady			1st Team
Back Three		Joshua Holmes			1st Team
Back Three		Malouf				1st Team
Back Three		Adam Thompstone			1st Team
Back Three		Veaina				1st Team
Back Three		Matthew Tait			1st Team
Back Three		George Worth			Academy
		
LONDON IRISH			
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Todd Gleave			1st Team
Hooker			David Paice			1st Team
Hooker			Dave Porecki			1st Team
Hooker			Saia Fainga'a			1st Team
Hooker			Matt Kouris			Academy
		
Prop			Lovejoy Chawatama		1st Team
Prop			Ben Franks			1st Team
Prop			Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi		1st Team
Prop			Ollie Hoskins			1st Team
Prop			Richard Palframan		1st Team
Prop			Petrus du Plessis		1st Team
Prop			Tom Smallbone			1st Team
Prop			Gordon Reid			1st Team
Prop			Manasa Saulo			1st Team
Prop			Harry Elrington			Academy
		
Locks			Sebastian de Chaves		1st Team
Locks			Will Lloyd			1st Team
Locks			Josh McNally			1st Team
Locks			Jebb Sinclair			1st Team
Locks			Filo Paulo			1st Team
Locks			Jack Cooke			Academy
		
Back Row		Mike Coman			1st Team
Back Row		Conor Gilsenan			1st Team
Back Row		Max Northcote-Green		1st Team
Back Row		Blair Cowan			1st Team
Back Row		Jake Schatz			1st Team
Back Row		Lasha Lomidze			1st Team
Back Row		Senitiki Nayalo			1st Team
Back Row		Ofisa Treviranus		1st Team
Back Row		Isaac Curtis-Harris		Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Brendan McKibbin		1st Team
Scrum Halves		Scott Steele			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Ben Meehan			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Rory Brand			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Theo Brophy-Clews		1st Team
Fly Halves		James Marshall			1st Team
Fly Halves		Jacob Atkins			Academy
Fly Halves		Tom Parton			Academy
		
Centres			Luke McLean			1st Team
Centres			Ciaran Hearn			1st Team
Centres			Fergus Mulchrone		1st Team
Centres			Johnny Williams			1st Team
Centres			Matt Williams			Academy
		
Back Three		Tom Fowlie			1st Team
Back Three		Alex Lewington			1st Team
Back Three		Napolioni Nalaga		1st Team
Back Three		Topsy Ojo			1st Team
Back Three		Asaeli Tikoirotuma		1st Team
Back Three		Ben Ransom			1st Team
Back Three		Tommy Bell			1st Team
Back Three		Greig Tonks			1st Team
Back Three		Joe Cokanasiga			Academy
		
NEWCASTLE FALCONS			
POS			Player				Contract
Prop			Bobby Vickers			1st Team
Prop			Jon Welsh			1st Team
Prop			Sami Mavinga			1st Team
Prop			Scott Wilson			1st Team
Prop			Davy Wilson			1st Team
Prop			Sam Lockwood			1st Team
Prop			Adam Brocklebank		Academy
Prop			Trevor Davison			Academy
		
Hooker			Scott Lawson			1st Team
Hooker			Kyle Cooper			1st Team
Hooker			Ben Sowery			1st Team
Hooker			David Nelson			Academy
Hooker			Santi Socino			Academy
Hooker			Jamie Blamire			Academy
		
Locks			Mouritz Botha			1st Team
Locks			Tevita Cavubati			1st Team
Locks			Evan Olmstead			1st Team
Locks			Calum Green			1st Team
Locks			Andrew Davidson			1st Team
Locks			Will Witty			1st Team
Locks			Sean Robinson			1st Team
Locks			Harrison Orr			1st Team
Locks			Nick Civetta			1st Team
Locks			Josh Williams			Academy
Locks			Glen Young			Academy
Locks			Max Davies			Academy
		
Back Row		Mark Wilson			1st Team
Back Row		Will Welch			1st Team
Back Row		Nili Latu			1st Team
Back Row		Opeti Fonua			1st Team
Back Row		Gary Graham			1st Team
Back Row		Ryan Burrows			1st Team
Back Row		Dan Temm			Academy
Back Row		Callum Chick			1st Team
Back Row		Ally Hogg			1st Team
Back Row		Simon Uzokwe			1st Team
		
Scrum Halves		Sam Stuart			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Micheal Young			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Tane Takulua			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Ruaridh Dawson			Academy
Scrum Halves		Dan Taylor			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Toby Flood			1st Team
Fly Halves		Mike Delany			1st Team
Fly Halves		Craig Willis			1st Team
Fly Halves		Joel Matavesi			1st Team
Fly Halves		Joel Hodgson			1st Team
Fly Halves		Brett Connon			Academy
		
Centres			Juan Pablo Socino		1st Team
Centres			Dom Waldouck			1st Team
Centres			Maxime Mermoz			1st Team
Centres			Josh Matavesi			1st Team
Centres			Chris Harris			1st Team
Centres			Fred Burdon			1st Team
Centres			Ben Stevenson			Academy
Centres			Tom Penny			1st Team
		
Back Three		Sinoti Sinoti			1st Team
Back Three		Niki Goneva			1st Team
Back Three		Beli Agulla			1st Team
Back Three		Cameron Cowell			Academy
Back Three		Zach Kibirige			1st Team
Back Three		DTH Van Der Merwe		1st Team
Back Three		Adam Radwan			Academy
Back Three		Alex Tait			1st Team	
Back Three		Simon Hammersley		1st Team
		
NORTHAMPTON SAINTS			
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Charlie Clare			1st Team
Hooker			Dylan Hartley			1st Team
Hooker			Mike Haywood			1st Team
Hooker			James Fish			Academy
Hooker			Reece Marshall			Academy
Hooker			Alex Rayment			Academy
		
Prop			Kieran Brookes			1st Team
Prop			Jamal Ford-Robinson		1st Team
Prop			Paul Hill			1st Team
Prop			Campese Ma'afu			1st Team
Prop			Alex Waller			1st Team
Prop			Francois van Wyk		1st Team
Prop			Matt Beesley			Academy
Prop			Devante Onojaife		Academy
Prop			Ehren Painter			Academy
Prop			Toby Trinder			Academy
		
Locks			James Craig			1st Team
Locks			Christian Day			1st Team
Locks			Courtney Lawes			1st Team
Locks			Michael Paterson		1st Team
Locks			Api Ratuniyarawa		1st Team
Locks			David Ribbans			1st Team
Locks			Alexander Moon			Academy
Locks			Jordan Onojaife			Academy
Locks			Josh Peters			Academy
		
Back Row		Jamie Gibson			1st Team
Back Row		Teimana Harrison		1st Team
Back Row		Ben Nutley			1st Team
Back Row		Tom Wood			1st Team
Back Row		Mitch Eadie			1st Team
Back Row		Will Allman			Academy
Back Row		Lewis Ludlam			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Nic Groom			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Tom Kessell			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Cobus Reinach			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Tom Emery			Academy
Scrum Halves		Alex Mitchell			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Piers Francis			1st Team
Fly Halves		Harry Mallinder			1st Team
Fly Halves		Stephen Myler			1st Team
Fly Halves		James Grayson			Academy
		
Centres			Luther Burrell			1st Team
Centres			Juan Pablo Estelles		1st Team
Centres			Rob Horne			1st Team
Centres			Rory Hutchinson			1st Team
Centres			Tom Stephenson			1st Team
Centres			Nafi Tuitavake			1st Team
		
Back Three		Tom Collins			1st Team
Back Three		Jamie Elliott			1st Team
Back Three		George North			1st Team
Back Three		Ken Pisi			1st Team
Back Three		Ben Foden			1st Team
Back Three		Ahsee Tuala			1st Team
Back Three		George Furbank			Academy
		
SALE SHARKS		
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Marc Jones			1st Team
Hooker			Cameron Neild			1st Team
Hooker			Rob Webber			1st Team
Hooker			Curtis Langdon			Academy
		
Prop			Halani Aulika			1st Team
Prop			James Flynn			1st Team
Prop			Ross Harrison			1st Team
Prop			Eifion Lewis-Roberts		1st Team
Prop			Kieran Longbottom		1st Team
Prop			Ciaran Parker			1st Team
Prop			Alexandru Tarus			1st Team
Prop			Diogo Ferreira			Academy
Prop			Jake Pope			Academy
		
Locks			Bryn Evans			1st Team
Locks			George Nott			1st Team
Locks			Andrei Ostrikov			1st Team
Locks			Josh Beaumont			1st Team
Locks			Matt Postlethwaite		Academy
		
Back Row		TJ Ioane			1st Team
Back Row		Jono Ross			1st Team
Back Row		Josh Strauss			1st Team
Back Row		David Seymour			1st Team
Back Row		Laurence Pearce			1st Team
Back Row		Ben Curry			1st Team
Back Row		Tom Curry			1st Team
		
Scrum Halves		Will Cliff			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Faf de Klerk			1st Team
		
Fly Halves		AJ MacGinty			1st Team
		
Centres			Will Addison			1st Team
Centres			Sam James			1st Team
Centres			Mark Jennings			1st Team
Centres			Johnny Leota			1st Team
		
Back Three		Josh Charnley			1st Team
Back Three		Nev Edwards			1st Team
Back Three		James O'Connor			1st Team
Back Three		Paolo Odogwu			1st Team
Back Three		Denny Solomona			1st Team
Back Three		Mike Haley			1st Team
Back Three		Byron McGuigan			1st Team
		
SARACENS			
POS			Player				Contract
Prop			Mako Vunipola			1st Team
Prop			Richard Barrington		1st Team
Prop			Titi Lamositele			1st Team
Prop			Hayden Thompson-Stringer	1st Team
Prop			Ralph Adams-Hale		Academy
		
Hooker			Jamie George			1st Team
Hooker			Schalk Brits			1st Team
Hooker			Christopher Tolofua		1st Team
Hooker			Scott Spurling			1st Team
Hooker			Tadgh McElroy			Academy
			
Prop			Juan Figallo			1st Team
Prop			Vincent Koch			1st Team
Prop			Kieran Longbottom		1st Team
Prop			Billy Walker			Academy
		
Locks			Maro Itoje			1st Team
Locks			George Kruis			1st Team
Locks			Will Skelton			1st Team
Locks			Dominic Day			1st Team
Locks			Mark Flanagan			1st Team
Locks			Nick Isiekwe			Academy
Locks			Danny Cutmore			Academy
Locks			Joel Kpoku			Academy
		
Back Row		Schalk Burger			1st Team
Back Row		Mike Rhodes			1st Team
Back Row		Will Fraser			1st Team
Back Row		Joel Conlon			1st Team
Back Row		Calum Clark			1st Team
Back Row		Matt Hankin			1st Team
Back Row		Jack Nay			Academy
Back Row		Andy Christie			Academy
Back Row		Billy Vunipola			1st Team
Back Row		Jackson Wray			1st Team
Back Row		Ben Earl			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Richard Wigglesworth		1st Team
Scrum Halves		Ben Spencer			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Henry Taylor			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Tom Whiteley			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Alex Gliksten			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Owen Farrell			1st Team
Fly Halves		Alex Lozowski			1st Team
Fly Halves		Max Malins			Academy
		
Centres			Brad Barritt			1st Team
Centres			Marcelo Bosch			1st Team
Centres			Nick Tompkins			1st Team
Centres			Duncan Taylor			1st Team
Centres			Tom Griffiths			1st Team
Centres			Dominic Morris			Academy
Centres			Oli Morris			Academy
		
Back Three		Sean Maitland			1st Team
Back Three		Nathan Earle			1st Team
Back Three		Chris Wyles			1st Team
Back Three		Mike Ellery			1st Team
Back Three		Rotimi Segun			Academy
Back Three		Elliot Obatoyinbo		Academy
Back Three		Alex Goode			1st Team
Back Three		Liam Williams			1st Team
Back Three		Matt Gallagher			Academy
Back Three		Alastair Crossdale		Academy
		
WASPS			
POS			Player				Contract
Prop			Jake Cooper-Woolley		1st Team
Prop			Paul DoranJones			1st Team
Prop			Ben Harris			1st Team
Prop			David Langley			1st Team
Prop			Simon McIntyre			1st Team
Prop			Marty Moore			1st Team
Prop			Matt Mullan			1st Team
Prop			Alex Lundberg			1st Team
Prop			Will Stuart			Academy
Prop			Tom West			Academy
Prop			Jarod Leat			Academy
		
Hooker			Tom Cruise			1st Team
Hooker			Antonio Harris			1st Team
Hooker			Tommy Taylor			1st Team
		
Locks			Marcus Garrett			1st Team
Locks			James Gaskell			1st Team
Locks			Joe Launchbury			1st Team
Locks			Kearnan Myall			1st Team
Locks			Will Rowlands			1st Team
Locks			Matt Symons			1st Team
		
Back Row		James Haskell			1st Team
Back Row		Nathan Hughes			1st Team
Back Row		Ashley Johnson			1st Team
Back Row		Sam Jones			1st Team
Back Row		Alex Rieder			1st Team
Back Row		Guy Thompson			1st Team
Back Row		Thomas Young			1st Team
Back Row		Jack Willis			Academy
Back Row		Tom Willis			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Craig Hampson			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Dan Robson			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Joe Simpson			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Will Porter			Academy
		
Fly Halves		Danny Cipriani			1st Team
Fly Halves		Jimmy Gopperth			1st Team
Fly Halves		Connor Eastgate			Academy
Fly Halves		Jacob Umaga			Academy
		
Centres			Guy Armitage			1st Team
Centres			Elliot Daly			1st Team
Centres			Juan Dejongh			1st Team
Centres			Kyle Eastmond			1st Team
Centres			Gabririele Lovobelavu		1st Team
Centres			Brendan Macken			1st Team
		
Back Three		Josh Bassett			1st Team
Back Three		Willie LeRoux			1st Team
Back Three		Rob Miller			1st Team
Back Three		Christian Wade			1st Team
Back Three		Marcus Watson			1st Team
Back Three		Owain James			Academy
		
WORCESTER WARRIORS			
POS			Player				Contract
Hooker			Niall Annett			1st Team
Hooker			Joe Taufete'e			1st Team
Hooker			Jack Singleton			1st Team
Hooker			Matt Williams			1st Team
Hooker			Beck Cutting			Academy
		
Prop			Biyi Alo			1st Team
Prop			Ryan Bower			1st Team
Prop			Simon Kerrod			1st Team
Prop			Gareth Milasinovich		1st Team
Prop			Nick Schonert*			1st Team
Prop			Ethan Waller			1st Team
Prop			Joe Morris			Academy
Prop			Nick Rigby			Academy
		
Locks			Darren Barry			1st Team
Locks			Donncha O'Callaghan		1st Team
Locks			Pierce Phillips			1st Team
Locks			Christian Scotland-Williamson	1st Team
Locks			Will Spencer			1st Team
Locks			Justin Clegg			Academy
Locks			Andrew Kitchener		Academy
Locks			James Scott			Academy
		
Back Row		Marco Mama			1st Team
Back Row		Matt Cox			1st Team
Back Row		Carl Kirwan			1st Team
Back Row		Sam Lewis			1st Team
Back Row		Dewald Potgieter		1st Team
Back Row		Huw Taylor			1st Team
Back Row		David Denton			1st Team
Back Row		Alafoti Fa'osiliva		1st Team
Back Row		GJ van Velze			1st Team
Back Row		Ted Hill			Academy
Back Row		Zac Xiourouppa			Academy
Back Row		Tom Dodd			Academy
		
Scrum Halves		Jonny Arr			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Luke Baldwin			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Michael Dowsett			1st Team
Scrum Halves		Francois Hougaard		1st Team
		
Fly Halves		Tom Heathcote			1st Team
Fly Halves		Sam Olver			1st Team
Fly Halves		Jamie Shillcock			1st Team
		
Centres			Ryan Mills			1st Team
Centres			Wynand Olivier			1st Team
Centres			Max Stelling			1st Team
Centres			Ben Te'o			1st Team
Centres			Jackson Willison		1st Team
Centres			Will Butler			Academy
		
Back Three		Josh Adams			1st Team
Back Three		Dean Hammond			1st Team
Back Three		Bryce Heem			1st Team
Back Three		Perry Humphreys			1st Team
Back Three		Tom Howe			1st Team
Back Three		Ben Howard			1st Team
Back Three		Chris Pennell			1st Team
Back Three		Alex Hearle			Academy
Back Three		Afeafe Haisila Lokotui		Academy
Back Three		Nick David			Academy
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Sorry about the massive post! Thought it would be good to see all the squads in one place.

Salmon



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Rawce (IP Logged)

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 11:28
Sale and Leicester fans must be bricking it even more than us!

Good stats, thanks.

 
opti
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 14:44
"What can we take from these tables?"

Some of Gloucester's centres?

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 14:52
Great info - thanks for taking the time to do that Bath Salmon

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 15:09
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"What can we take from these tables?"
Some of Gloucester's centres?

I would rather have KPN in the centre than Twelvetrees tbh.

 
Ali1969
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 15:44
Good Stats Bath Salmon - but what you need to do rather than concentrating just on pure numbers look at the quality in those positions - for instance Tigers - Props all 5 listed as Props are full Internationals....

That is where I am personally concerned about our squad - it is the quality of the cover more than the numbers. Our first team is as good as any in the AP but what was abundantly clear last year and so far it looks the same this year - there was no impact from the bench and that comes down to the lack of quality backing up our 1st team and indeed pushing for starting places.

The Tigers once Genge and Cole get tired they can call on 3 International replacements!!! Who are we calling on???

I think it is accepted now that many games are decided on in the last 20 minutes of the match and often by the bench impact, that is where we are lacking.

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 15:48
well that's a start:

[www.bathchronicle.co.uk]

Thomas revealed he has a comeback target in mind and it's not too far away.

“The aim is to make a pre-season game or two," he told the Chronicle. "It will be the latter pre-season games (the end of August).


Good news.



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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
14 July, 2017 19:49
That's excellent news! Him, Walker and Dunn back to fitness. Louw hopefully too.

Now we just need Roko back fit!



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Kick for the corner

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
15 July, 2017 10:02
Loew will be back to full fitness........then he disappears with South Africa until December

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
17 July, 2017 13:02
I don't know whether Francois will be selected for the Boks anymore tbh. The one position they are not short on talent is the back row and although Francois is an extremely class act they have Jaco Kriel, Siya Kolisi and Oupa Mohoje who can play 6/7 atm who are all slightly more ball carrying flanks than Francois and so I don't know whether this represents a shift in tactic maybe?

Or is this just wishful thinking that they will neglect Francois' talent and we get him all to ourselves? (that would be bliss though)

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
17 July, 2017 16:50
Flouw, full of energy, for a whole season would be the dream it really would. Mentor underhill even more effectively then as well!

 
DanWiley
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 07:49
I'm not sure there's many more signings in it for us. Or that there should be. We're actually reasonably well balanced and I think it starting 23 is certainly capable of playing at the to of the game.

What are Newcastle thinking? A similar point with Gloucester and centers, are they particularly flexible centres?

 
Boldangrey
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 09:06
Soft centres?

 
ELT
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 10:47
We've certainly got a bigger squad than in recent seasons, so I can't see many more signings either. That said, I'd be astonished if we don't bring in at least one centre: going into a season with only three specialists, one of whom we'll probably lose for a third of the season, would be plain daft.

On a different note, I saw Richie Gray strolling through Bath this morning. Probably means nothing as he is under contract at Toulouse, isn't he? And I can't imagine we'd be in the market for an international lock unless there was something seriously wrong with Charteris which we didn't know about.

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 10:48
Great work. Thanks. If you are up for keeping that up to date it would make a great sticky thread to refer to

 
Bathovalballer
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 11:47
Regrettably Charteris has never really performed for us on a consistent, regular basis and arguably one could say that there is something long term wrong with him, he might be past his best!

I am not advocating we sign Richie Gray, who has his faults and is certainly not consistent as his brother for instance, but we may be looking to replace Charteris who I think is 35 in March and I believe has only this season on his existing contract to go.

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
18 July, 2017 12:02
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Great work. Thanks. If you are up for keeping that up to date it would make a great sticky thread to refer to

Thanks.

I'll try and do a weekly update and only add players such as Craig Mitchell when they are either officially announced or they appear in the team's offy squad list.

Might be a bit much to keep on top of though, but I'll give it a go!

 
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BathMatt53 (IP Logged)

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
19 July, 2017 16:10
Did Kristian Phillips leave? His twitter suggests that he is still a Bath player but I have heard nowt either way...

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
19 July, 2017 17:59
It appears that we are still under-equipped at centre.
Could it be that the intention is to play 2 FH's until a suitable specialist addition can be signed?

 
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
19 July, 2017 18:09
Surely that's the backup plan, possibly the backup to the backup?
Tapuai would be first choice, Clark second, probably Banahan 3rd and Priestland 4th



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sweeney21
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Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
20 July, 2017 20:45
Sale fan here.

We're not! Those details seem like last years, and are out of date for then too. Things have been tough in recent years, but we've managed to maintain an academy of more than 4. Our web team however who don't appear to have done any updates.... smiling smiley

 
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BathSalmon (IP Logged)

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
20 July, 2017 21:47
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Sale fan here.
We're not! Those details seem like last years, and are out of date for then too. Things have been tough in recent years, but we've managed to maintain an academy of more than 4. Our web team however who don't appear to have done any updates.... smiling smiley

If you have the list I'll update it. I used your official website to check the academy. Weirdly some players were listed in both the 1st team squad and the academy!

I have some other updates to put through now as well, such as Stringer and Wasps poaching our Academy hooker.

Also if I am to believe what I heard today I need to make room in the Bath squad for Mitchell and 2 backs, plus potentially another forward (although that's not a done deal) - sorry not given any names. winking smiley



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BathMatt53 (IP Logged)

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
20 July, 2017 22:22
Retallick, Fekitoa and Sonny Bill? To be honest I'm a bit disappointed, we will definitely be relegation candidates...

 
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BathSalmon (IP Logged)

Re: All Premiership Squads 2017-18
21 July, 2017 05:57
Yep its Nonu and Conrad Smith. Very disappointing!...

I've no idea who or what part of the world they are from. Just that we have 2 signed up and potentially another.

 
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21 July, 2017 08:24
No, no, it was Conrad Smith's Ma not...


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