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BathMatt53
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Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 11:51
[www.premiershiprugby.com]

Just shows how close some teams are playing it - overspend due to someone not being selected for an international and a couple of other tiny margins.

 
BathBurger
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 12:04
Interesting. Seems most clubs are close with some exceptions towards the bottom of the prem table. Blood pressure must be through the roof for those in charge which such fine margins.

On that point, if it is true that Te'o is on the move, who can afford him? Unless I'm missing something there aren't many clubs who can afford him. The implications of this being that big name players could have an interesting time with wage demands etc...

 
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Which Tyler (IP Logged)

Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 12:07
I'm sure they'll be just as undertanding of their own club as they were of ours in a very similar sounding situation.



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cb2
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 12:48
£40,528 - must be the cost of Ciprianis's hair cuts.

 
B4thB4ck
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 12:53
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cb2
£40,528 - must be the cost of Ciprianis's hair cuts.

Does that account for how Exeter stay under the cap?

 
BathMatt53
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 13:10
The £40k was due to tommy taylor, Hughes and Daly injuries meaning that the club missed out on internationals payments.

WT was the overspend tax around when the previous situation arose?

 
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woodpecker (IP Logged)

Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 13:11
Quote:
B4thB4ck
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cb2
£40,528 - must be the cost of Ciprianis's hair cuts.

Does that account for how Exeter stay under the cap?

I wish Harry Williams would keep his hair under his cap

 
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TCM2007 (IP Logged)

Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 13:19
Possibly offers an explanation for the club agreeing Atters move as well - perhaps we already spent his salary!



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BathMatt53
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 13:24
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TCM2007
Possibly offers an explanation for the club agreeing Atters move as well - perhaps we already spent his salary!

Mercer, Ewells, Dunn, Thomas, Underhill being involved must help with our figures this year as well I guess in addition to the ones that you would expect to be off for internationals.

 
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Which Tyler (IP Logged)

Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 14:27
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BathMatt53
WT was the overspend tax around when the previous situation arose?
We talked about it a lot around then; but I really can't remember if it was part of the solution, or speculation as to where we fell on the scale.
I certainly suspect that the openness this time has come about as a result of that ocassion; so it may have become more formalised or more of a scale than an out-right tax, or something like that.
Either way, it serves to show what many said at the time - that the cap is complex than small slips can happen through nobody's particularly fault.



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BathMatt53
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 14:33
Yes, I would guess (although have no evidence) that the tax idea resulted from the previous situation - certainly Prem rugby are at pains to explain there there has been no wrong doing this time.

 
john fox
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 14:41
Would Faletau's additonal game with Wales also take his Bath salary for that match out of the equation?

 
BathMatt53
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Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 14:54
Quote:
johnnyf
Would Faletau's additonal game with Wales also take his Bath salary for that match out of the equation?


3.2 Senior Ceiling credits
(b) Senior EPS and International Player Credits
1. Where a Club is unable to select a Player in its squad for either an Aviva
Premiership or European Champions or Challenge Cup match as a result of that
Player (i) being selected in a match day squad by his national union and released
in accordance with World Rugby Regulation 9 or (ii) are absent under the terms of
the Heads of Agreement (or any successor of this agreement) (which includes EPS
Rest and Blocked weeks as defined in the Heads of Agreement (or any successor of
this agreement) or (iii) released in accordance with any relevant PRL Board Policy,
and subject to Regulation 3.2(b)4 below, there shall be:
A. For any International Qualified Player, who is not a Senior EPS Player, a
£10,000 per Aviva Premiership or European Champions or Challenge Cup
match credit (“International Variable Player Credit”);
For avoidance of doubt, an England Player who is not a Senior EPS Player may
qualify for an International Variable Player Credit if his Club is unable to select
the Player pursuant to Regulation 3.2(b)1. above.
B. For any International Qualified Player, who is a Senior EPS Player, a £5,000
per Aviva Premiership or European Champions or Challenge Cup match credit
(“Senior EPS Player Variable Credit”);
2. In addition to Regulation 1(b) above, where a Senior EPS Player is an International
Qualified Player at a Club the Club shall be entitled to a fixed credit of £40,000
(“Senior EPS Player Fixed Credit”) for that Player in the Salary Cap Year.
3. Absence from an Aviva Premiership or European Champions or Challenge Cup
match due to injury will not result in an International Variable Player Credit or a
Senior EPS Player Variable Credit.
4. A Club shall not be permitted to utilise more than a combined total of £80,000 for
Home Grown Player Credit and/or International Variable Player Credit and/or
Senior EPS Player Fixed and/or Variable Credits for any Player in a Salary Cap
Year.

So I would have thought that TF was already at the £80k limit? I'm sure someone will be bothered to calculate it. Of course if he misses the 6N it would be close.

 
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hasta (IP Logged)

Re: Wasps knocking on the caps door
09 February, 2018 15:11
Quote:
Where a Club is unable to select a Player in its squad for either an Aviva
Premiership or European Champions or Challenge Cup match as a result of that
Player (i) being selected in a match day squad by his national union and released
in accordance with World Rugby Regulation 9 or (ii) are absent under the terms of
the Heads of Agreement (or any successor of this agreement) (which includes EPS
Rest and Blocked weeks as defined in the Heads of Agreement (or any successor of
this agreement) or (iii) released in accordance with any relevant PRL Board Policy,

Faletau was released in breach of these regulations though. So I'd guess not.

ETA: Although I assume he's a marquee player anyway so it doesn't matter.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2018 15:12 by hasta.


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