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BBandW (IP Logged)

O/T : Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
05 March, 2018 19:08
a shame, but is anyone really surprised ?

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2018 12:41 by CoochieCoo.

joethefanatic (IP Logged)

Re: Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
05 March, 2018 19:52
a shame, but is anyone really surprised ?

Nope and I won't be when football and rugby join them there. The need is too acute, rewards are too high and the risks of discovery are too low.

... IMHO, of course.

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jayeatman (IP Logged)

Re: Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
06 March, 2018 09:54
At least in cycling and athletics they're looking for the cheats. And guess what, the TUI rules are being pushed to the limits. You would expect nothing less.

In rugby and football, they're just not looking. I'm certain it's a massive problem, but nobody wants to look.

FIFA is corrupt from top to bottom. If they cared in the slightest about doping, the World Cup wouldn't be happening in Russia this year. Just in case anybody doesn't know Vitaly Mutco, Russian minister for sport, since promoted to Deputy Prime Minister, has been identified as being directly responsible for the state doping fraud at Sochi2014, banned for life by the IOC, is also President of the Russian Football Union and First Deputy Chairman of Supervisory Board of the 2018 World Cup (Putin is Chairman of course).

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Dorset Boy (IP Logged)

Re: O/T : Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
06 March, 2018 15:59
The lack of adequate record keeping at Sky / British Cycling was a major concern, possibly all too convenient too, now rectified by all accounts. The cases here is hardly EPO, testosterone, EPO etc.

Where's the investigation into all the injections Freddie Flintoff had to get him onto the field in his final few years?
Same with plenty of footballers.
Djokavic went well over a year without an OOC test.

The CMS Committee have used an anonymous source to try to destroy a number of reputations, using Parliamentary privilege and no right of a fair hearing, and have failed to produce any evidence, other that hearsay and gossip of actual rule breaking, and one of the least ethical MPs (Damian Green) has lectured others on where ethical boundaries should lie. Google his corruption and ethics!

The have also heavily relied on Dave Millar's view. He was on a cocktail of PEDs so would not know which was most effective (although EPO and testosterone would be far more effective than trimac..) and is known not to get on with Brad.

As said above, rugby, football and tennis just do not look so pretend there is no issue.

On average a pro rugby player will be tested ONCE per year.

wiggins, Froome, Cavendish etc. will have been tested every day he was in the lead of a race,or won a stage plus other random tests.

It's laughable how other sports fans sneer down their noses at the likes of cycling when they are blind to the problems in their own sports.

The one sensible thing the CMSC do suggest is making it illegal to take PEDs in the UK.

shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: O/T : Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
06 March, 2018 17:09
The Bradly Wiggins interview had a number of worrying points for me:

He had no right of reply
He was not told of the accusation.
The identity of the informant is withheld.
There is no 'appeal procedure'.
The whole judgement is protected by parliamentary privilege.
He is guilty of a totally abstract offence of crossing a moral line.

So who decides the boundary of that line? A committee of MP's who have no qualifications but their own opinions.

I have no idea if infractions have occurred but using position to throw mud from behind a impenetrable barrier just seems wrong. Particularly when reputations are at stake.

BBandW (IP Logged)

Re: O/T : Cycling and Athletics back in the dock
07 March, 2018 07:56
For anyone interested the Moral Maze on Radio 4 at 20:00 tonight debates the issue.

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