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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
12 March, 2019 21:15
CVC are looking to buy a stake in the 6N I'm really not sure how much we want this!

You wonder if EJ's comments about relegation in the 6N was based on prior knowledge?



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!



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cb2
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
13 March, 2019 10:50
You have to worry about the games being taken off normal TV or even a pay-per-view model being brought in. I am a boxing fan and hate the way that pay-per-view has become the norm for even medium sized events. The 6N games are big events and I could see a situation where greed takes over.

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
13 March, 2019 12:02
You only have to look at what CVC have done to F1 in that expect, is it good for one company to have hold large chunks of the Premiership and 6N? Live viewing of the 6N would almost certainly go PPV.

£100 million sounds attractive but when its gone, its gone. Sport seems under a systematic attack. Boxing, F1, Wembley, Prem, 6N.



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
DorsetBoy
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
13 March, 2019 12:20
Isn't the 6N one of the 'protected sports events'?


That said I wouldn't be comfortable with this, but equally do we want a Nations championship if that destroyed the 6N?

 
B4thB4ck
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
13 March, 2019 12:25
PPV 6N.... Bill McLaren would not have approved.

 
SJS
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
13 March, 2019 14:31
quote]Isn't the 6N one of the 'protected sports events'?[/quote]

It is, but it's category B, which means it can be PPV/off FTA but only if there is a comprehensive highlights package or delayed broadcast. WC is FTA only.

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
14 March, 2019 17:00
I'm beginning to think we are all missing something here:

The global sports markeing company Infront have offered 5 BILLION POUNDS to support the Nations Championship.

Make CVC's offer a bit tiny really doesn't it.



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
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joethefanatic (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
15 March, 2019 01:17
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shipwrecked
I'm beginning to think we are all missing something here:
The global sports markeing company Infront have offered 5 BILLION POUNDS to support the Nations Championship.

Make CVC's offer a bit tiny really doesn't it.

Over 12 years. That's 21 million per nation per year. Squad of 42ish and 10 matches? It just means the players will get more money and the blazers more gin. And what do Infront want for their pound of flesh? Enjoy the game while you can, boys, cos it's about to sell its soul.



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu



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Coalminer (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
15 March, 2019 08:48
CEO of Infront is the nephew of Sepp Blatter.
However FIFA have said that Sepp Blatter was not involved in awarding Football world cup rights to Infront in 2002.

 
cb2
cb2 (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
15 March, 2019 09:10
21 million for what? Does that come on top of all the TV money and the gate receipts and the merchandising? If it is instead of all of that, then I am not sure that the RFU will go for it. They get something like 80 million from internationals hospitality and ticket sales.



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hemington (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
15 March, 2019 09:18
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Coalminer
CEO of Infront is the nephew of Sepp Blatter.
However FIFA have said that Sepp Blatter was not involved in awarding Football world cup rights to Infront in 2002.

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her front?

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
15 March, 2019 11:57
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joethefanatic
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shipwrecked
I'm beginning to think we are all missing something here:
The global sports markeing company Infront have offered 5 BILLION POUNDS to support the Nations Championship.

Make CVC's offer a bit tiny really doesn't it.

Over 12 years. That's 21 million per nation per year. Squad of 42ish and 10 matches? It just means the players will get more money and the blazers more gin. And what do Infront want for their pound of flesh? Enjoy the game while you can, boys, cos it's about to sell its soul.

That is my concern too Joe, here we are discussing on the "transfer rumours" thread how to avoid being thousands over the cap when in board room the numbers are in the tens of millions.

As long as rugby provides a spectacle player welfare and adherence to cap etc will become an irrelevance. PPV will become the norm so hang on to your season tickets gents!

Can't see any of the owners offering reassurance at the moment so I guess they are already on board!



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
DownSouth
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
19 April, 2019 08:12
CVC now buying a big chunk of Pro14.

Already discussions of having the Prem winners play the Pro14 winners as a grand final each year.

Could the season genuinely be dragged out any longer??

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
19 April, 2019 09:13
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DownSouth
CVC now buying a big chunk of Pro14.
Already discussions of having the Prem winners play the Pro14 winners as a grand final each year.

Could the season genuinely be dragged out any longer??

I'm not really surprised, I mentioned on the Todd thread that rugby is changing with CVC wanting more "produce" for their financial input.

Tip of the iceberg.



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
B4thB4ck
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Re: CVC Round 2 -To buy part of 6N
19 April, 2019 09:40
Quote:
DownSouth
CVC now buying a big chunk of Pro14.
Already discussions of having the Prem winners play the Pro14 winners as a grand final each year.

Could the season genuinely be dragged out any longer??

Agreed. As mentioned above, payer welfare is a concern here. I don't want to see players retiring increasingly early to spend more time on operating table just so the money men retire earlier to spend more time in the Bahamas.

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
19 April, 2019 10:24
I'm sure we can expect some significant changes, especially when Mark McCafferty has urged, "collaboration and sacrifice as the professional game enters a pivotal stage in its development." BBC

He mentions player welfare saying players will have to play "slightly less" yet there is talk of a grand final. I have no idea how player welfare and return of investment get balanced.

I find it interesting that he makes these statements just as he is leaving!



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
opti
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Re: CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
19 April, 2019 11:32
The Premier League is collectively losing £50m a year. CVC want about £30m back p.a. So the club game in England needs to generate another £80m p.a. Thatís not going to come from Joe Cokanasiga, Maro Itoje, Jonny May having a day off.

 
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shipwrecked (IP Logged)

Re: CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
19 April, 2019 18:00
Thats the bit I don't understand Opti, McCafferty says the players might play less. Yet they are adding games surely to get revenue.

The only way I can see how that would work would be bigger squads?

Also a bit worried about his use of the word "sacrifice".



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

 
cb2
cb2 (IP Logged)

Re: CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
23 April, 2019 13:19
I think the games need to become bigger events. However, I am not sure if rugby is growing enough to warrant this. About 10 years ago, I thought that there would be a chance that our average gate would be between 20,000 and 25,000 by now. The Sarries vs Munster game should be a wake up call to us all. Simon Halliday appeared to be confident that the fans would come out for the game but only 16,000 turned up to watch the semi final of the top tournament. That's really poor.

 
SimonG19
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Re: CVC and Infront -To buy part of 6N and World rugby
23 April, 2019 17:25
I suspect the attendance would have been much bigger had it been any one a number of other English sides playing Munster partly because Saracens have a small supporter base and partly because many neutrals who might have been tempted to attend were put off by the increasingly negative publicity surrounding them.


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