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Big Cup Final
Discussion started by Dorset Boy (IP Logged), 11 May, 2019 18:58
DorsetBoy
Dorset Boy
11 May, 2019 18:58
Congrats Sarries. Huge intensity from both sides.
7th now gets big cup spot?

bathstigg
bathstigg
11 May, 2019 19:00
Yeah maybe a safety net for us but may still need to get something from the Leicester match.

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shipwrecked
11 May, 2019 19:23
Have to say we have to learn the loiter offside trick by Sarries, works a treat!



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Darren Atkins Age 21 years, Fullback, 6 ft 1 in, 13 st 4 lbs. Sadly injured for the rest of the season!

sid the seagull
sid the seagull
11 May, 2019 19:28
Hasn’t it got something to do with La Rochelle as well?

HOP

dcsh
dcsh
11 May, 2019 19:31
Great win for Sarries, very impressive defensive display and the pressure they put on Leinster prevented the Irish from playing their normal game.

ballsout
ballsout
11 May, 2019 19:31
I really hope we don't sneak into the big boys cup in the last round, again, especially next year when we really don't need it.

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shipwrecked
11 May, 2019 19:50
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ballsout
I really hope we don't sneak into the big boys cup in the last round, again, especially next year when we really don't need it.

Oh come on BO we would have nothing to ridicule then! Thing is Champions cup performances and GP performances are often very different, plus Freddie will put the ball down next time, he cant make the same mistake twice...can he?



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ChippenhamRoman
ChippenhamRoman
11 May, 2019 20:04
Quote:
shipwrecked
Have to say we have to learn the loiter offside trick by Sarries, works a treat!

Also need to drill on the smashing in off your feet into the ruck technique.

J

gaz59
gaz59
11 May, 2019 21:20
Oh come on Sarries were immense. The performances from Vunipola, Spencer and Lozowski especially were way above GP level. And to come back from behind against champions was extraordinary

Maybe they have unfair ways of getting round the cap, who knows. Maybe they play at the margin and beyond of what should be allowed.

But none of that should detract from individual and collective performances that were something else

High bar but Bath and Bruce if you really aspire to that level then massive step up in many areas needed

For time being I doff my cap in respect

john fox
johnnyf
11 May, 2019 21:31
Totally different game to the lesser cup last night - in fact you could be forgiven for thinking they were 2 different sports.

Take your pick - today real heavyweights knocking lumps off each other and yesterday the French doing everthing to avoid it and offload at every oportunity.

Boldangrey
Boldangrey
11 May, 2019 21:41
Try saving tackle, then turnover the ball by Liam Williams was immense.

ballsout
ballsout
11 May, 2019 22:11
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johnnyf
yesterday the French doing everthing to avoid it and offload at every oportunity.

Ironically, the complete opposite of the Top 14 and Pro D2

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joethefanatic
12 May, 2019 02:36
Wow! That was a magnificent game of rugby from Sarries. Vincent Koch had a game for the ages. Chapeau.



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu

Bathovalballer
Bathovalballer
12 May, 2019 07:48
Agree Joetf. I thought Koch was immense as was Kruis. When Sarries get all their stars playing together as a team, they are truly inspirational and certainly know how to win things.

Mind you they have a full set of long serving coaches who have delivered for a few seasons now. That's a good start and remind me what Bath have/will have next season: two proper ones, two apprentices and a guy in charge who is learning on the job!



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southgate
southgate
12 May, 2019 07:56
Enjoyed the game ,best team in the prem and Europe

DownSouth
DownSouth
12 May, 2019 08:02
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joethefanatic
Wow! That was a magnificent game of rugby from Sarries. Vincent Koch had a game for the ages. Chapeau.

Joe - did you watch it on RugbyPass with the Irish commentators? They were seriously putting the boot into Sarries.

“They’re what’s known as a ‘bought club’ and that doesn’t deserve much respect at all”

gaz59
gaz59
12 May, 2019 08:42
Quote:
DownSouth
Quote:
joethefanatic
Wow! That was a magnificent game of rugby from Sarries. Vincent Koch had a game for the ages. Chapeau.

Joe - did you watch it on RugbyPass with the Irish commentators? They were seriously putting the boot into Sarries.

“They’re what’s known as a ‘bought club’ and that doesn’t deserve much respect at all”

Maybe true but they were playing essentially Ireland RFC with a couple of down unders thrown in

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joethefanatic
12 May, 2019 08:58
Quote:
DownSouth
Quote:
joethefanatic
Wow! That was a magnificent game of rugby from Sarries. Vincent Koch had a game for the ages. Chapeau.

Joe - did you watch it on RugbyPass with the Irish commentators? They were seriously putting the boot into Sarries.

“They’re what’s known as a ‘bought club’ and that doesn’t deserve much respect at all”

I watched on NBCs rugby pass but my game commentary was the BT one of Ali Aykin, Ben Kay and BOD. They were reasonably balanced throughout. BOD even managed to compliment Sarries once or twice!

Presumably the "bought club" comment means that Leinster generate all their own funds and receive no money or preferential treatment from the IRFU. Oh, hold on....



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/05/2019 09:40 by joethefanatic.

BathMatt53
BathMatt53
12 May, 2019 08:59
It was a good day out (as was the final on Friday). Not the most exciting rugby for the neutral (a good old fashioned arm wrestle) but a good atmosphere and stadium. The Leinster fans partied hard most of the night around the Toon, despite the loss.



[Adoptee 18/19: Man Mountain Dave Attwood, back in the BB&W and ready to smash]

Boldangrey
Boldangrey
12 May, 2019 09:21
I wonder how many international sides would beat a Sarries side playing like that.

dcsh
dcsh
12 May, 2019 09:22
As I understand the rules below, if Clermont (currently 2nd) and La Rochelle (currently 4th) maintain top 6 positions in the Top 14 it would seem that the 20th place in next years cup would go to Quins or Sale should either finish outside the top 6 in the Prem or 7th place if they do both finish in the top 6.
To finish outside top 7 Bath would need to lose with no bonus point with Wasps and/or Bristol winning with a bonus point.

Taken from [www.epcrugby.com]

In accordance with a decision of the EPCR Board comprising the nine unions, federations and league bodies, the 20th place in the Heineken Champions Cup will be determined as follows:

i) Heineken Champions Cup winner, if not already qualified
ii) Challenge Cup winner, if not already qualified
iii) Challenge Cup losing finalist, if not already qualified
iv) Play-off match between the losing Challenge Cup semi-finalists, if not already qualified
v) Highest ranked non-qualified club by virtue of league position from the same league as the Heineken Champions Cup winner

warrenball
warrenball
12 May, 2019 10:10
I never like Sarries, no idea why, but have changed my mind in recent seasons, partly because they are playing rugby at a level Bath can only dream about, but mainly because they really seem a completely united group of players all the way through the club. When one player drops out another drops in and completely knows the game plan and his role.

This must come from the DOR/coaching staff run by McCall. They deserve much credit for producing a team that would probably beat many international teams.

As for the game, it did not disappoint, a magnificent effort by both teams and worthy of the cup final.

DownSouth
DownSouth
12 May, 2019 10:27
Nigel Wray - “I want my Saracen boys to love the club and each other’s company while making memories that will last forever....”

Nice words. And they deserve their success, especially ysterday.

gaz59
gaz59
12 May, 2019 14:48
Quote:
dcsh
As I understand the rules below, if Clermont (currently 2nd) and La Rochelle (currently 4th) maintain top 6 positions in the Top 14 it would seem that the 20th place in next years cup would go to Quins or Sale should either finish outside the top 6 in the Prem or 7th place if they do both finish in the top 6.
To finish outside top 7 Bath would need to lose with no bonus point with Wasps and/or Bristol winning with a bonus point.

Taken from [www.epcrugby.com]

In accordance with a decision of the EPCR Board comprising the nine unions, federations and league bodies, the 20th place in the Heineken Champions Cup will be determined as follows:

i) Heineken Champions Cup winner, if not already qualified
ii) Challenge Cup winner, if not already qualified
iii) Challenge Cup losing finalist, if not already qualified
iv) Play-off match between the losing Challenge Cup semi-finalists, if not already qualified
v) Highest ranked non-qualified club by virtue of league position from the same league as the Heineken Champions Cup winner

Think league position goes on number of wins first if points equal, So a wasps win without a bonus point would put them above us if we come away with nothing and a losing bp for us means they need a win plus try bp to overtake us

I think

Best just win with a tbp to secure 6th

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OutsideBath
12 May, 2019 15:00
From an attacking perspective maybe not the most entertaining game, but overall it was utterly enthralling. The intensity levels and defensive commitment for 80mins from both sides was hugely impressive.

Shame that there had to be a loser, but well done Sarries.



Tom Dunn - Adopted player 2018/19

dcsh
dcsh
12 May, 2019 20:11
Quote:
gaz59
Quote:
dcsh
As I understand the rules below, if Clermont (currently 2nd) and La Rochelle (currently 4th) maintain top 6 positions in the Top 14 it would seem that the 20th place in next years cup would go to Quins or Sale should either finish outside the top 6 in the Prem or 7th place if they do both finish in the top 6.
To finish outside top 7 Bath would need to lose with no bonus point with Wasps and/or Bristol winning with a bonus point.

Taken from [www.epcrugby.com]

In accordance with a decision of the EPCR Board comprising the nine unions, federations and league bodies, the 20th place in the Heineken Champions Cup will be determined as follows:

i) Heineken Champions Cup winner, if not already qualified
ii) Challenge Cup winner, if not already qualified
iii) Challenge Cup losing finalist, if not already qualified
iv) Play-off match between the losing Challenge Cup semi-finalists, if not already qualified
v) Highest ranked non-qualified club by virtue of league position from the same league as the Heineken Champions Cup winner

Think league position goes on number of wins first if points equal, So a wasps win without a bonus point would put them above us if we come away with nothing and a losing bp for us means they need a win plus try bp to overtake us

I think

Best just win with a tbp to secure 6th
Good point

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joethefanatic
13 May, 2019 20:54
Quote:
Boldangrey
I wonder how many international sides would beat a Sarries side playing like that.

Everybody up to New Zealand. And I think Sarries would give *them* a good game.



... IMHO, of course.

Now in Honolulu


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