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A38
Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
A38 (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 12:32
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The transfer of players under contract will, I suspect, be a topic to which we will return quite often in the future even with sort of change of regulation in place.

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Fiver (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 13:51
Hopefully this will work in our favour. I didn't realise the previous situation existed where a player could simply walk out to another club if the compensation was paid. The new rules make perfect sense in that an agreement must be reached. It should also stop silly money wages as it no longer relates to the buy out clause.

 
Simba
Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Simba (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 16:38
If this is the case, how do we explain the reported large sum of money needed to buy Rhys Priestland out of his Bath contract a while ago?

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Fiver (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 18:18
That would depend on who reported the sum of money and how accurate it was.

 
usa warrior
Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
usa warrior (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 18:49
Suppose that figure would have been equal to either our yearly offer or his current contract, whichever was larger.

 
Simba
Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Simba (IP Logged)
10 August, 2017 19:43
My memory, which isn't that great, seems to recall a quote saying we walked away due to the unreasonable early release fee being asked by Bath.

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Fiver (IP Logged)
11 August, 2017 07:46
How many years did he have left on his contract? Maybe that was the factor in the compensation calculation.

 
Abmatt
Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Abmatt (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 18:54
Circa 250k to release him iirc

 
FlipFlop
Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
FlipFlop (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 22:12
10's do generally appear to have Agents who can talk up their salaries. Silly money for a player who may still be second choice this season.

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
13 August, 2017 22:27
Quote:
Fiver
How many years did he have left on his contract? Maybe that was the factor in the compensation calculation.

That didn't matter.

As usaw says, the deal was under PRL rules which required the acquiring club to pay compensation of 1 year's salary, at the higher figure of what he was being paid by the old club, or what the new club was offering.

The rule has now been changed. If a player makes it clear he wants out, and his current club agree to release him, the compensation figure is whatever the two clubs can agree on.

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
Fiver (IP Logged)
15 August, 2017 07:49
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TeflonTed

The rule has now been changed. If a player makes it clear he wants out, and his current club agree to release him, the compensation figure is whatever the two clubs can agree on.

What about if they can't agree? What does the player do then?

Ex-players always harp on about "If a player wants to leave, you have to let him go" etc..... However, I've two problems with this. Firstly, if you want to leave, why did you sign a contract? Secondly, if only one club comes in for you, this means they can offer buttons in terms of compensation as the club 'apparently' have to let the player go.

People need to take more responsibility for their actions, IMHO. Failing that, will the new ruling go the way of football where release clauses appear quoting the cost of buying out a contract?

 
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Re: Jonny May: English Premiership clubs close a contract loophole after deal
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
15 August, 2017 08:40
Fiver, there's no doubt that the new arrangement leads the way you describe.

I suppose overall it's a bit like marriage. No one sets out planning a divorce, but relationships sometimes don't go as expected.

As a understand it, if a player is unhappy enough to want out, or, as is probably more often the case, is being sought by another club who offer more, then a negotiation can now take place without the link to the actual salaries as previously.

Some have commented that clubs have used the salary link rule previously to "poach" youngsters at bargain bottom prices. We all remember rumours that talented youngsters have gone from teams like Wuss, to teams like Tigers ( just for example!), for reductions, or at best, small increases, in salary with the expectation of a glittering career at the "better" club.

It's one of the ways that struggling clubs continue to struggle.

Imagine that we had a young, very talented utility back, who hadn't yet quite settled into his final first team position, who gets a quiet approach from a top 4 London based side guaranteeing European rugby immediately and the chance to train with world class team mates. Is he tempted,....possibly.

At least now Wuss would be able to say, well, off you go then lad, with our blessing, oh, and by the way, take this invoice for 1/2 a million quid with you and pass it on.....they can afford it, it's outside the cap after all.

As to what happens if the current club simply refuse to negotiate, and this has probably happened, the player serves out his contract, and possibly gets put on gardening leave, or otherwise sidelined as per Bristol in the AR days.

As you say, the march towards footballisation continues!


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