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Old Col
Drumming
Old Col (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 17:59
I attended both London Irish and Wasps matches at their stadiums. I found the insistent drumming distracting during the matches . I thought it innapropriate and irrelevant to the action on the field and at Wasps irritating to see the drummers parading and twirling around betweem the seats at the edge of the field whilst having to look over them to follow the game. Anyone else think it should be banned from premiership matches? I do not think any other clubs tolerate or encourage such a mindless accompaniment during a game. Is it wrong to criticise what happens at another club ?Maybe but how else can any feedback be given ? I say BAN THE DRUMMING .I wonder if I am alone?

 
WorcesterSauce
Re: Drumming
WorcesterSauce (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 18:30
there is a place for drums at sports grounds if their use is coherent and used well. At wasps and irish its a rubbish attempt to improve the atmosphere as the fans of the two clubs don't know how to make noise.

 
Abmatt
Re: Drumming
Abmatt (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 19:07
If there was a vote to ban them I would vote yes.

Irrespective of the result the drums were annoying me so much on Saturday that at one point I nearly left.

Each to their own but I hate them.

 
Freypal
Re: Drumming
Freypal (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 20:01
I went to one game at the Ricoh and hated it, with this being one of the main reasons. That and all the rubbish pumped out the PA system trying to create some kind of fake atmosphere.

 
usa warrior
Re: Drumming
usa warrior (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:00
It was really annoying, agreed. They seemed to circle the pitch throughout as well.

 
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Re: Drumming
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:13
All depends what sort of atmosphere individuals want. Nor surprised to see that Saucie now includes fans of both LI and Wasps along with his home crowd as ďfans who donít know know how to make noiseĒ.

Maybe one day weíll get a list of premiership fans who do know how to make a noise.

Returning to the drums, I donít like them, but would expect that a home crowd should be able to do pretty much what it likes. If others donít like, donít go. Personally I find the pa at Wasps far worse than the drums, totally artificial, and incredibly ignorant of the sportsmanlike traditions of the game, being used even when play is underway.

All part of professionalism, and isnít going to go away. I wonít go back to the MadStad under any circumstances, although I find the food and drink service at the Ricoh compensates to some extent for the disgraceful pa.

 
ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:16
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WorcesterSauce
there is a place for drums at sports grounds if their use is coherent and used well. At wasps and irish its a rubbish attempt to improve the atmosphere as the fans of the two clubs don't know how to make noise.

But you donít go to the Ricoh .... so how would you know fans donít know how to make noise ? winking smiley

Trust me thereís plenty of noise aside of the drums, PA and buzzing (and anything else people moan about) ..... thereís always been something going on even back at Adams Park ..... being blunt when itís your home ground the club can do what they want, the drums donít interfere with play, even if they do pi$$ off a handful of visiting supporters from time to time. smiling smiley

 
WorcesterSauce
Re: Drumming
WorcesterSauce (IP Logged)
16 April, 2018 21:16
Quote:
TeflonTed
All depends what sort of atmosphere individuals want. Nor surprised to see that Saucie now includes fans of both LI and Wasps along with his home crowd as ďfans who donít know know how to make noiseĒ.
Maybe one day weíll get a list of premiership fans who do know how to make a noise.

Returning to the drums, I donít like them, but would expect that a home crowd should be able to do pretty much what it likes. If others donít like, donít go. Personally I find the pa at Wasps far worse than the drums, totally artificial, and incredibly ignorant of the sportsmanlike traditions of the game, being used even when play is underway.

All part of professionalism, and isnít going to go away. I wonít go back to the MadStad under any circumstances, although I find the food and drink service at the Ricoh compensates to some extent for the disgraceful pa.

Saints, Glos, Exeter, Sale and in the past, Wuss! If irish and wasps fans did know how to make noise, they wouldnt need reminding from their PA every break in play.

Ukms - sorry must have posted at the same time. You and TT are right, the home team can, too an extent, do what they like. I didnt go to the Ricoh, but luckily you can stream all games nowadays, so watched via something probably illegal.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/04/2018 21:18 by WorcesterSauce.

 
ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 08:51
Quote:
TeflonTed
All depends what sort of atmosphere individuals want. Nor surprised to see that Saucie now includes fans of both LI and Wasps along with his home crowd as ďfans who donít know know how to make noiseĒ.
Maybe one day weíll get a list of premiership fans who do know how to make a noise.

Returning to the drums, I donít like them, but would expect that a home crowd should be able to do pretty much what it likes. If others donít like, donít go. Personally I find the pa at Wasps far worse than the drums, totally artificial, and incredibly ignorant of the sportsmanlike traditions of the game, being used even when play is underway.

All part of professionalism, and isnít going to go away. I wonít go back to the MadStad under any circumstances, although I find the food and drink service at the Ricoh compensates to some extent for the disgraceful pa.

TT - Glad you like the food and drink smiling smiley .... there are plenty who moan about it !

As for the PA, personally I don't tend to notice it anymore but can understand the moans .... I think I'm pretty certain in saying it never happens in play .... typical example when they are setting a scrum or lineout .... I actually don't think it was used much last weekend ? unless I'm oblivious now !

WS - Are you sure its the drums you can hear on your illegal stream and not the sound of all the porn pop ups winking smiley .... good or bad the support sounds very different on TV to live .... maybe you should dip your toe in the water and go to an away game next season and support your club, you never know you might enjoy yourself !

 
Abmatt
Re: Drumming
Abmatt (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 09:29
I didnít notice the pa at all on Saturday. Certainly not like on my last visit.

Iíd have to agree the facilities at the Ricoh are very good.

 
Malvern Man
Re: Drumming
Malvern Man (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 10:22
The drumming was very irritating on Saturday, but not nearly as bad as at London Irish. As above, I didn't notice the public address at all. I was impressed with the stadium (first visit) and the bars were good with the pints already pulled. The view from our seats was terrific. We went by train, which was very convenient and not crazily packed.

Of the three soccer grounds, the Ricoh is in my experience the best. Of the other two the Sale ground is horrible and I'll take some persuading to go there again. The LI soccer ground is being replaced by the Bristol soccer ground, which I like, possibly because of the excellent experience at the first leg of Championship play-off final in 2015!

 
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Re: Drumming
Powick Eastander (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 11:09
The Sale ground isn't a football stadium it's a rugby stadium. Both union and league. But it is rubbish tbh



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Malvern Man
Re: Drumming
Malvern Man (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 11:44
Well I never did. The AJ Bell is so horrible I assumed it was a football ground!

 
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Re: Drumming
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 18:02
ukms, the twice Iíve been it was certainly used as lineouts were being set, and thatís in play. If theyíve backed off it recently then thatís all to the good, and I found that the Waspies sitting around us said they didnít much like it either.

Itís only a short step from some pa interruptions to the awful ďcome ON you OirishĒ bellowed at every opportunity over the pa at the dreadful MadStad.

Gladly looks that may be a problem over very shortly!

 
ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 18:40
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TeflonTed
ukms, the twice Iíve been it was certainly used as lineouts were being set, and thatís in play. If theyíve backed off it recently then thatís all to the good, and I found that the Waspies sitting around us said they didnít much like it either.
Itís only a short step from some pa interruptions to the awful ďcome ON you OirishĒ bellowed at every opportunity over the pa at the dreadful MadStad.

Gladly looks that may be a problem over very shortly!

If you asked most (probably all) players they couldnít give a jot but I understand the complaint even though itís never bothered me personally...... as for in play or not .... the ball is dead until itís thrown (unless someone knows different) ....

 
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Re: Drumming
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 18:58
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ukms
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TeflonTed
ukms, the twice Iíve been it was certainly used as lineouts were being set, and thatís in play. If theyíve backed off it recently then thatís all to the good, and I found that the Waspies sitting around us said they didnít much like it either.
Itís only a short step from some pa interruptions to the awful ďcome ON you OirishĒ bellowed at every opportunity over the pa at the dreadful MadStad.

Gladly looks that may be a problem over very shortly!

If you asked most (probably all) players they couldnít give a jot but I understand the complaint even though itís never bothered me personally...... as for in play or not .... the ball is dead until itís thrown (unless someone knows different) ....

Not so surely. In normal play the clock is still running as a lineout or scrum is set, thereís no stoppage unless Sir exceptionally decides so.

For me thatís normal play, and pa supporter wind-ups are inappropriate.

 
usa warrior
Re: Drumming
usa warrior (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 21:09
The PA was not a problem at all on Saturday. Drums were a distraction, but to each their own. Maybe I'm just not used to them.

The fans village, however, was very good.

 
ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
17 April, 2018 21:27
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TeflonTed
Quote:
ukms
Quote:
TeflonTed
ukms, the twice Iíve been it was certainly used as lineouts were being set, and thatís in play. If theyíve backed off it recently then thatís all to the good, and I found that the Waspies sitting around us said they didnít much like it either.
Itís only a short step from some pa interruptions to the awful ďcome ON you OirishĒ bellowed at every opportunity over the pa at the dreadful MadStad.

Gladly looks that may be a problem over very shortly!

If you asked most (probably all) players they couldnít give a jot but I understand the complaint even though itís never bothered me personally...... as for in play or not .... the ball is dead until itís thrown (unless someone knows different) ....

Not so surely. In normal play the clock is still running as a lineout or scrum is set, thereís no stoppage unless Sir exceptionally decides so.

For me thatís normal play, and pa supporter wind-ups are inappropriate.

The clock runs through a few parts of the game when the ball is dead but I do get your frustration. As for the drums I must admit I used to find them a tad irritating myself but donít notice them anymore.

 
usa warrior
Re: Drumming
usa warrior (IP Logged)
18 April, 2018 07:34
What could easily be improved were the game clocks however. They were tiny!! That or my eyes were seriously struggling...

 
Malvern Man
Re: Drumming
Malvern Man (IP Logged)
18 April, 2018 10:07
There was a clock on the big screen at times.

 
usa warrior
Re: Drumming
usa warrior (IP Logged)
18 April, 2018 10:55
Was the wrong corner to see that easily.

 
ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
18 April, 2018 15:21
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usa warrior
What could easily be improved were the game clocks however. They were tiny!! That or my eyes were seriously struggling...

Clocks are nothing to do with the club as I understand .... they are provided by PRL ..... Its been raised many times before ..... we get nice big shiny Tissot Clocks for the Euro games which are pitch side and far better

 
Bill the chip
Re: Drumming
Bill the chip (IP Logged)
19 April, 2018 07:48
The drums are used to drown out the whingeing and sighing some guys on this board bring to a sporting venue! If you want silence spend your Saturdays at the library!

The donkey noises at Gloucester are annoying, but also brilliant itís what makes the shed, both hostile and a great place to visit for away fans....... each ground has its quirks , itís called. An atmosphere.... get over it

 
Abmatt
Re: Drumming
Abmatt (IP Logged)
19 April, 2018 08:23
Or to generate some form of atmosphere on what is a soulless sporting venue.

 
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Re: Drumming
Powick Eastander (IP Logged)
19 April, 2018 09:11
The drums at Sale are loathed by their fans.. Seems they try to drown them out!



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ukms
Re: Drumming
ukms (IP Logged)
19 April, 2018 19:02
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Abmatt
Or to generate some form of atmosphere on what is a soulless sporting venue.

Out of interest do you consider Sixways full of soul or another soulless sporting venue ? ......


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