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Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 09:11
We have now had 2 warm-up/match fitness building outings with a cleanup game against Moseley who possibly will play against Wasps.

Known injuries which may rule out certain players(could change before 1 Sep

Heem
Te'o
Venter
Milasinovic
Kirwan
Lawrence??
Waller


Unavailable

Fatialofa

Here goes

15. Pennell
14. Hammond
13. Beck
12. Mills
11. Adams

10. Weir
09. Hougaard

01. Bower
02. Singleton
03. Schonert
04. Barry
05. Bressler
06. Du Preez
07. Lewis
08. van Veltz

16. Taufete'e
17. Black
18. Kerrod
19. Kitchener
20. Fao'siliva
21. Arr
22. Lance
23. Shillcock

Nearer the time when more availability info becomes available we can have another go.

JP

 
BrumBrum
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
BrumBrum (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 09:21
Heem on wing, Venter & Black start.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 09:49
What do we know about Van Breda’s status? I’ve lost the plot there.

I’d be agreeing with JP’s selection overall otherwise

Just hope we don’t get any daft injuries v Mose. I’m hoping the first XV won’t be risked.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 10:24
At this points Heem and Venter are injured and Heem has not had any game time at all.

It will change before the 1st - hopefully.

JP

 
Bevere Warrior
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Bevere Warrior (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 10:46
15. Lance
14. Heem
13. Venter
12. Mills
11. Adams

10. Weir
09. Hougaard

01. Waller
02. Singleton
03. Schonert
04. Barry
05. Bresler
06. Mama
07. Lewis
08. Du Preez

16. Taufete'e
17. Black
18. Kerrod
19. Kitchener
20. Fao'siliva
21. Arr
22. Lawrence
23. Shillcock

The team I would like to see



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 19/08/2018 10:47 by Bevere Warrior.

 
BrumBrum
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
BrumBrum (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 10:54
Interesting team Bevere W. Very attacking.
Would still have Black starting & Baldwin over Arr.
Also due to flex may have if fit Van Breda, as he can play 10, 12, 15 & I think 11, over Shilcock.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 10:56
No Pennell(but possibly a good call)
No van Veltz(the club captain)

Lawrence injured
Heem Injured
Venter Injured
Waller Injured

But as they say, you never know.

JP

 
BrumBrum
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
BrumBrum (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 11:06
My understanding is Heem was a very close call for Saturday & he is contact training.
Venter should also be fit.
Don't know about Lawrence, but would have him on the bench if fit, if not would have Beck or if fit Te'o. Need players who can shake things but up from the bench

 
WorcesterSauce
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
WorcesterSauce (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 11:09
Bar a major injury crisis we're going go end the season with some very unhappy centres thats for sure. Pretty much all are decent enough to start.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
knightstemplar (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 11:09
Anyone else thought Du Preez could play centre at a push?!

Quick acceleration, aggressive in contact and great pair of hands

 
BrumBrum
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
BrumBrum (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 11:12
He maybe able to attack as a centre, but defending is very different. Who knows.
Didn't we finish a game a few years back against Wasps with 4 locks on the pitch?

 
Bevere Warrior
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Bevere Warrior (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 11:16
I was working on the basis that Heem and Venter would be fit by the Wasps match.

Didn’t realise that Waller and Lawrence wouldn’t be fit for selection.

Van Velze was a tough call but don’t think he is better than my starting back row and wanted a more impactive player on the bench. I do like him as a squad player.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Teme Dream (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 15:02
It's still Van Velze. Is it too much to ask to spell correctly the name of our captain who has been at the club for 4 years?

 
Bevere Warrior
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Bevere Warrior (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 15:37
Quote:
Teme Dream
It's still Van Velze. Is it too much to ask to spell correctly the name of our captain who has been at the club for 4 years?

It must be lovely to live in a world where what you have to worry about is the spelling of other contributors.

 
Ake1985
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Ake1985 (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:10
We lose a very solid line out option without Van Velze! I think he should start, was very good for most of last season. Think it'll be a tough call between Mama and Du Preez at 6 with Lewis at 7

 
Offa
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Offa (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 18:13
Agree with that, Ake.

 
A38
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
A38 (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 20:28
Quote:
TeflonTed
What do we know about Van Breda’s status? I’ve lost the plot there.

This may help:-

[www.worcesternews.co.uk]

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
TeflonTed (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 22:41
Quote:
A38
Quote:
TeflonTed
What do we know about Van Breda’s status? I’ve lost the plot there.

This may help:-

[www.worcesternews.co.uk]

Thank you.

No immediate return then.

 
Underdog
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Underdog (IP Logged)
19 August, 2018 22:42
I'd like this season to finally be the one where we can rotate our squad - whether that's for player respite, our game plan or to target opponent weaknesses. For a long time we've had to play the same team and get squad players to fill in when someone is on the physio table.

For instance, do Mills and Lewis need to play every game when we've got centres and back rowers of such quality?

 
Abmatt
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Abmatt (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 06:21
The ability to rotate comes when you are assured of a league position. When we are constantly looking over our shoulders we’ve had to put out strongest side available out as we needed the points.

Hopefully not the case this season.

 
BrumBrum
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
BrumBrum (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 07:13
Can't help believe our high number of quality centres is due to at least 1 we thought would leave didn't. Te'o was off to Bath, then Leciester & I am sure someone said it fell though due to his agent.
Was also told Mills was off, then unexpectedly re-signed. Don't know how truthful the Mills story is but it could makes sense to explain Venter, Beck arriving.
Either way we find ourselves with an abundance of good centres with young Lawrence playing his way into the squad earlier than anyone thought.
As for rotating players, don't know if I agree as it appears to break their rhythm but having a good depth may mean we don't play slightly injuried players & maybe give the Euro Cup a serious go.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 08:51
Looks like Heem and Venter will play on Thursday so should be available for selection against Wasps.

JP

 
centrethere
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
centrethere (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 08:52
I think Wynand Olivier could feature soon unless he has had a set back on his hamstring recovery. Does someone know if he is back in full contact training?

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 09:23
If indeed they are both available it will change the backline selection considerably.

The question will be who plays 15 Pennell or Lance?

My 15 to 9 would be

15. Pennell

14. Heem
13. Venter
12. Mills
11. Adams

10. Weir
09. Hougaard

Finishers

22. Lance
23. Beck

If they all played to the potential (and more) what a back line that is!!!

However you may consider swapping Weir and Lance to have the better place kicker on at the end of the game not the start.

JP

 
MSR-Worcester
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
MSR-Worcester (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 13:57
Can't see Solomons dropping both Pennell and GJVV.

My prediction (brackets for injury doubts):

1. Waller (Bower)
2. Singleton
3. Schonert
4. Bresler
5. Barry
6. du Preez
7. Lewis
8. van Velze

9. Hougaard
10. Weir
11. Adams
12. Mills
13. Te'o (Venter)
14. Heem (Hammond)
15. Pennell

16. Taufete'e
17. Bower / Black
18. Milasinovich
19. Phillips
20. Mama
21. Baldwin
22. Lance
23. Hammond / Venter

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Faithful_City (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 14:17
Te’o is definitely not available for Wasps

 
usa warrior
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
usa warrior (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 14:31
Quote:
BrumBrum
Can't help believe our high number of quality centres is due to at least 1 we thought would leave didn't. Te'o was off to Bath, then Leciester & I am sure someone said it fell though due to his agent.
Was also told Mills was off, then unexpectedly re-signed. Don't know how truthful the Mills story is but it could makes sense to explain Venter, Beck arriving.

FWIW Teo was off to Quins on the centre merry go round... Roberts leaving, etc.

 
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Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Powick Eastander (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 14:39

 
Abmatt
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Abmatt (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 16:03
Yipee

 
gmem
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Garym (IP Logged)
20 August, 2018 16:34
Quote:
usa warrior
Quote:
BrumBrum
Can't help believe our high number of quality centres is due to at least 1 we thought would leave didn't. Te'o was off to Bath, then Leciester & I am sure someone said it fell though due to his agent.
Was also told Mills was off, then unexpectedly re-signed. Don't know how truthful the Mills story is but it could makes sense to explain Venter, Beck arriving.

FWIW Teo was off to Quins on the centre merry go round... Roberts leaving, etc.

All seem to be based on the man in the pub told me ,,, BTW who is going to buy us!

 
MSR-Worcester
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
MSR-Worcester (IP Logged)
22 August, 2018 15:29
Reading the Wasps board they may be without Gopperth, Sopoaga, Shields and Mullan for the game at Sixways. Billy Searle at 10...

 
w4rriorz1980
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
w4rriorz1980 (IP Logged)
25 August, 2018 17:28
Quote:
MSR-Worcester
Reading the Wasps board they may be without Gopperth, Sopoaga, Shields and Mullan for the game at Sixways. Billy Searle at 10...
As good as Billy Searle is,as you don't leave Briz for Wasps without being more than half decent or being very promising,he is no Gopperth,Sopoaga.
Could be an area we could target but Warriors won't take Searle for granted.

 
Old Col
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Old Col (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 12:57
I expect to see Lawrence ,Hill and Kitchener somewhere in or near the match day squad.Hoping to see direct running outside and real fire from the forwards .And intelligence enough to avoid penalties and not annoy to the ref.For me the only real loss from last season was Spenser .Whoever takes his place needs to use him as a model.Supporters' job--will them on.Thank goodness the season is nearly here-I need my fix!

 
Stephen Abootman
Re: Team for Wasps, Early thoughts
Stephen Abootman (IP Logged)
27 August, 2018 13:05
Gopperth out 6-9 months.

"All Blacks fly-half Lima Sopoaga is unlikely to arrive in time."

[www.bbc.co.uk]


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