Hmmm, I usually find my self agreeing with Robmaza, but can't on this occasion. I found it difficult to take a positive from the game (the tournament yes, but not that game). you are right a 24-8 loss in Ireland wouldn't and shouldn't have been seen as a disaster, but sometimes the scoreboard lies, Iraland were considerably more than 3 times better than us on the day. As Rarua pointed out, the Irish back row assumed control of the ball for most of the game and that basically won the game for Ireland.
To be fair Rarua, Robmaza never claimed that Lawrence robbed England, Ireland were clearly the better side, that doesn't in any way excuse Lawrence's awful performance.
Feel the rain like an English summer. Hear the notes from a distant song.
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I can see what both of you are saying. My point is that the best team on the day doesn't always have to win. Had Flood and Wilkinson kicked their goals the score would have been 24-13. Had Lawrence pinged Ireland (Court) for collapsing the three consecutive scrums in the second half, we may well have set up a good field position and grabbed a try, perhaps even a sin binning thrown into the mix.
Far from it. Just the best team over the previous 4 weekends, and deserved championship winners. As McCaw's recently said, the loss in Dublin will make England stronger.
Mind you I do think Ireland's performance was also down to not actually having anything to play for but pride. If there was something at stake for them they may have gone into their shells a bit, understandably I suppose.
I am getting a bit confused at how the scrums are controlled these days.Nearly all the scrums either stood up or went down in the last three matches with out the ref penalising any one.We either have clear and consistent rules or lets just throw the ball in and hope.At this level its about time that the refs are told to raise their game in this area or are they waiting for a few more injuries and fights to occur before something is done
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