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plymquin3 (IP Logged)
05 March, 2017 14:35
question we know there is a ground requirement to go from championship to premiership.
is there a ground requirement from div 1 to championship? and if so what is it. question was posed to me and i had no answer.



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ralbar
Re: Site Issue: Plymouth Albion Menu
balion (IP Logged)
06 March, 2017 11:40
I don't think there is, there some clubs who are hoping for promoting certainly do not, Ampthill would not have. As regards to Hartpury the rumour is they are hoping to do a ground share deal with another club. Time will tell on that one. Just as a little point at least one of the teams due to be relegated from our league certainly to have grounds that would certainly qualify!!!
(Sm128)

 
plymquin3
Re: Site Issue: Plymouth Albion Menu
plymquin3 (IP Logged)
06 March, 2017 19:25
thanks for clearing that up. could that be gloucester ?

 
BBN
Re: ground requirement
BBN (IP Logged)
10 March, 2017 16:53
There's definitely a ground requirement to go up from the Championship to the Premiership. I've looked on line but can't find anything about going from National 1 to the Championship though.

 
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Re: ground requirement
Crowd counter (IP Logged)
10 March, 2017 21:35
On a similar theme... Is there any requirement to actually have a crowd? Yes, I'm thinking of Hartpury. I mean, biggest attendance 250! Or does this fit the new Premiership academy criteria by just being a reserve team in disguise. Good luck at Moseley, Albion and all who are going.
P.s. I'm not counting on us winning Nat 1 next year, but even if we did, RFU may well move the goalposts. Sport's not easy these days is it?

 
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Re: ground requirement
Dewnansek (IP Logged)
11 March, 2017 10:14
I agree.

The Hartpury team are winning the league at a canter, but who are they really?

No real support, even when they are doing so well??

If they don't have a supporter base, then how do they fund such a killer team. The answer must be THEY don't.



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Re: ground requirement
Kimbo (IP Logged)
11 March, 2017 17:03
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I mean, biggest attendance 250!

677 according to Statbunker. Agreed though, they do struggle to get bums on seats (I think Cov supporters actually made up the majority of that particular crowd). Statbunker also gives their average as 320.

Great win today at Mose BTW (Sm14)

 
plymquin3
Re: ground requirement
plymquin3 (IP Logged)
11 March, 2017 19:39
so next year every team in the championship can expect one game where the other team will bring no supporters / no revenue and play a game where they will provide more supporters than the home team.
and this is the proffesional era. the way forward ?

 
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Re: ground requirement
Dewnansek (IP Logged)
11 March, 2017 19:58
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Kimbo
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Crowd counter
I mean, biggest attendance 250!

677 according to Statbunker. Agreed though, they do struggle to get bums on seats (I think Cov supporters actually made up the majority of that particular crowd). Statbunker also gives their average as 320.

Great win today at Mose BTW (Sm14)



I believe the 677 is correct, and the ytd average seems about right, .... but as a source...

.... Statbunker shows Albion's Home Ground as Beacon Park. (Sm79)



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Crowd counter
Re: ground requirement
Crowd counter (IP Logged)
11 March, 2017 20:44
Ok. So their average is 320. And their lowest gate about 150? I wonder if they were top then? I don't have a problem with Hartpury per se, I just worry that the second tier of professional rugby is about to change in to something that may not be conducive to clubs like Albion, Coventry (with Wasps swarming their patch), Moseley, Rosslyn Park and even Blackheath. Again, no problem with the Chiefs players who turn out for us but if the future is we are just an Exeter B team, me and probably many others won't be over enamoured with that path. If the premier league blocks promotion relegation, as has been mentioned, what future a second tier and Albion's ambition within it? When the new guys took over didn't they say Premiership in 10 years. Sure that would be great for the city but I fear our path will be erased. Just a thought: What about a break away super tier with the likes of Nottingham, Coventry, Moseley, Richmond (I like their model), Bristol, jersey, London Exiles combined (!) and Albion to name a few. Never fully professional, potentially well supported clubs, knowing their is no promotion to be B team league. Can't see anyone getting gates of 150 at any of those battles.... Any sense in there? Great win today, Albion. Real proud!

 
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Re: ground requirement
Dewnansek (IP Logged)
12 March, 2017 06:24
Quote:
Crowd counter
Ok. So their average is 320. And their lowest gate about 150? I wonder if they were top then? I don't have a problem with Hartpury per se, I just worry that the second tier of professional rugby is about to change in to something that may not be conducive to clubs like Albion, Coventry (with Wasps swarming their patch), Moseley, Rosslyn Park and even Blackheath. Again, no problem with the Chiefs players who turn out for us but if the future is we are just an Exeter B team, me and probably many others won't be over enamoured with that path. If the premier league blocks promotion relegation, as has been mentioned, what future a second tier and Albion's ambition within it? When the new guys took over didn't they say Premiership in 10 years. Sure that would be great for the city but I fear our path will be erased. Just a thought: What about a break away super tier with the likes of Nottingham, Coventry, Moseley, Richmond (I like their model), Bristol, jersey, London Exiles combined (!) and Albion to name a few. Never fully professional, potentially well supported clubs, knowing their is no promotion to be B team league. Can't see anyone getting gates of 150 at any of those battles.... Any sense in there? Great win today, Albion. Real proud!

Hopefuly the grim fortelling above (blocking promotion) shall not come to pass.(Sm18)

The Hartpury candle may burn brightly but briefly without support, especially in the Championship.

 
covmick1/Michael Carter
Re: ground requirement
12 March, 2017 12:34
The talk is that Hartpury RFC (that is their title name now) will play home games at Kingsholm Gloucester RFC ground next season. Congratulations on your victory up at Birmingham Moseley yesterday.



covmick/Michael Carter

 
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Re: ground requirement
Dewnansek (IP Logged)
12 March, 2017 17:50
... and will they change their strip from red and black to red and white (Gloucester's colours)?


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