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Anglo Welsh Competition
Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
06 November, 2017 14:53
This competition has a reputation for being second rate and a bit of a nothing competition but this weekend there has been some fantastic rugby to watch. I watched the Tigers v Glaws and the Sarries v Quins live on the box and picked up the highlights of the other games on Channel 5. There was some cracking rugby on offer, if you get the chance to watch the Sarries/Quins game it was a cracker. In 6 games there were 362 points scored and 49 tries. Some great young talent on show and total commitment by players trying to either showcase their skills or players coming back from injury. Pity it hasnít got a sponsor

 
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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
fatheralice (IP Logged)
06 November, 2017 18:40
As well as the confusing nature of the pools, personally, I would get rid of losing bonus points as the winning team has little incentive to deny the opposition one, unlike in a normal league format.

Happy enough to still encourage TBPs and try scoring, but if we do keep the LBP, maybe we could trial the french system where you have to be 3 clear tries ahead to get the BP, which could encourage matches to remain competitive beyond the 60 mins, as per Sat, when we clearly switched off, having done everything necessary to secure the win and 5 pts.

Used correctly it is a great development comp, as is the A league, and the better run clubs get good benefit from them.

I'm not sure the Welsh teams get much from it, as they are so severely depleted due to international call ups, given the smaller player pool.

From an Aviva pov, I think an expanded and properly run A league could well be the way to go, to replace the AW cup, and shambles of an A league that we currently have.

 
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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
mommentum (IP Logged)
06 November, 2017 19:46
The cup competition is of great benefit to the club and players like Freeman, Salmon. They should ditch the Welsh clubs for the top four championship finishing clubs. All that@#$%&about the great rivalry between England and Wales is only really there at international level and we play them in the Euro cups anyway.

Would Freeman etc get to play in front of 10,000 in an A league game? Would young players still be free to play in the championship with a full A league

Colin who blogs in the rugby paper every so offen regurgitates his piece about scraping the cup to make way for 14 teams in the Premiership, this is a stupid idea and would not have the benefit of the cup. The last time we played London Welsh we still put out a full strength team.

 
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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
Scuff (IP Logged)
07 November, 2017 11:25
The Pro14 must have extra games compared to the Eng Prem, and what with Wales often choosing extra internationals, you can see why they don't take it seriously. Some of the sides they've sent out have been too inexperienced to learn much.

Giving the some championship sides a chance would be a great idea, and probably better (paying) crowd numbers. Imagine the noise for a Chiefs Pirates game.

The pool structure is confusing, but makes for exciting attacking rugby. Because you are not playing a direct rival, losing to them isn't such a blow.

 
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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
07 November, 2017 13:11
Playing the competition in its current format allows for 4 pool games as opposed to 3 if teams played those in their own group and evens up the home and away bias. The Welsh sides generally field young, weaker sides (I think Cardiff last year had a lad at 10 who was still at school at SP)and perhaps the top Championship sides might make a better fist of it but they have the Anglo/Irish cup.



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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
Chief Redwine (IP Logged)
08 November, 2017 08:28
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Lowerwatha
Playing the competition in its current format allows for 4 pool games as opposed to 3 if teams played those in their own group and evens up the home and away bias. The Welsh sides generally field young, weaker sides (I think Cardiff last year had a lad at 10 who was still at school at SP)and perhaps the top Championship sides might make a better fist of it but they have the Anglo/Irish cup.

I read that as 'lad OF 10'(Sm6)

 
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Re: Anglo Welsh Competition
Lowerwatha (IP Logged)
08 November, 2017 12:01
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Lowerwatha
Playing the competition in its current format allows for 4 pool games as opposed to 3 if teams played those in their own group and evens up the home and away bias. The Welsh sides generally field young, weaker sides (I think Cardiff last year had a lad at 10 who was still at school at SP)and perhaps the top Championship sides might make a better fist of it but they have the Anglo/Irish cup.

I read that as 'lad OF 10'(Sm6)

Should have gone to Specsavers, mind you he only looked about 10 stone ringing wet!


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