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Wasps break the Salary Cap
Tom A Hawk (IP Logged)
08 February, 2018 20:04
Confirmed in a statement by Premiership Rugby

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Premiership Rugby
Premiership Rugby can today confirm that following the completion of the independent audit of Salary spend for the 2016-17 Season, it was established that Wasps had overrun their limit by £40,528.

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Moorsman (IP Logged)
08 February, 2018 20:29
And they get find 50p for every £1 overspend

 
Currychief
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Currychief (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 07:38
Pig that was the cost of reaching a final perhaps the punishment doesn’t fit the crime?

 
OldWing
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
OldWing (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 11:02
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Pig that was the cost of reaching a final perhaps the punishment doesn’t fit the crime?

Given the price of pork these days, perhaps it was the pig that cost the extra £40k? Anyway, pig aside, it sounds as though it was a rather technical offence. Having read the Premiership explanation of the salary cap, I'm hardly surprised there's confusion; it seems almost impenetrable. I imagine quite a few clubs are on the borderline of the cap and it would only take an accountancy reallocation to push them over. I don't think this offence is quite in the same category as those committed - allegedly - in the past by others.

 
ukms
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
ukms (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 14:12
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Tom A Hawk
Confirmed in a statement by Premiership Rugby
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Premiership Rugby
Premiership Rugby can today confirm that following the completion of the independent audit of Salary spend for the 2016-17 Season, it was established that Wasps had overrun their limit by £40,528.

Conveniently missing off the important part in your quote winking smiley

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Premiership Rugby
“This is not a breach of the Regulations and there is no suggestion it was deliberate,” said a Premiership Rugby spokesman. “A number of adjustments were identified by the independent auditors which resulted in the overrun. These have now been addressed.”

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
clalan (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 15:16
Don't forget we got docked points for what on the face of it was minor clerical error. How far over do you need to go to get a major punishment, but money talks.

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Kainai (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 15:30
A storm in a tea cup by the looks of it. Nothing to see here.

 
ukms
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
ukms (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 16:43
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Don't forget we got docked points for what on the face of it was minor clerical error. How far over do you need to go to get a major punishment, but money talks.

Presumably the 5% that clubs can exceed by which is factored to cater for a variety scenarios. Wasps exceeded by 0.6% and paid the fine.

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
clalan (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 20:55
Its not an attack on Wasps just the rules, we lost points for a clerical error on a players passport, where as a club could spend over the odds to the equivalent of another players wage and get a tap on the hand and told not to do it again.
Bristol could have a happy time as they have money to burn, and very good lawyers,



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2018 20:57 by clalan.

 
ukms
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
ukms (IP Logged)
09 February, 2018 22:59
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Its not an attack on Wasps just the rules, we lost points for a clerical error on a players passport, where as a club could spend over the odds to the equivalent of another players wage and get a tap on the hand and told not to do it again.
Bristol could have a happy time as they have money to burn, and very good lawyers,

I’m not sure but wasn’t your punishment dished out by the RFU rather than Prem rugby ?

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Tom A Hawk (IP Logged)
10 February, 2018 05:42
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ukms
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Tom A Hawk
Confirmed in a statement by Premiership Rugby
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Premiership Rugby
Premiership Rugby can today confirm that following the completion of the independent audit of Salary spend for the 2016-17 Season, it was established that Wasps had overrun their limit by £40,528.

Conveniently missing off the important part in your quote winking smiley

Quote:
Premiership Rugby
“This is not a breach of the Regulations and there is no suggestion it was deliberate,” said a Premiership Rugby spokesman. “A number of adjustments were identified by the independent auditors which resulted in the overrun. These have now been addressed.”

No I didn't. I posted the first sentence of the release and linked to the rest of the release in my original post so people have the option to click on it to read more into it should they wish. If I had left the link out, Then you might have a point.... But I didn't..

 
Raggs
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Raggs (IP Logged)
10 February, 2018 08:06
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Its not an attack on Wasps just the rules, we lost points for a clerical error on a players passport, where as a club could spend over the odds to the equivalent of another players wage and get a tap on the hand and told not to do it again.
Bristol could have a happy time as they have money to burn, and very good lawyers,

The cap is setup so that a club cannot know how much allowance it will have when signing players, only by the end of the season, which is indeed daft. Wasps predicted that it's English internationals would play more than they did whilst signing and re-signing players (9-16 months before, or earlier), due to injury, they didn't.

This is precisely why the overrun tax was introduced, to allow clubs to get it a bit wrong. 5% over the base cap level is the allowed amount. Upto £50k error is 50p per £1, over £50k is £1 for each £1, and over £200k is £3 for every £1. Over the 5% mark and then a new set of punishment protocols come into play.

I suspect the accountants would much prefer the cap was fixed, but the DORs probably like the idea that if they're supplying a lot of England players, that gives them more funds to pay backup players, so there's not a huge drop off in talent (since the England players aren't cheap in the first place).

 
kentwasp1
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
kentwasp1 (IP Logged)
18 February, 2018 08:50
It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it

 
coddy
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
coddy (IP Logged)
18 February, 2018 12:25
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It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it



And I thought it was the expense of buying the players Pizza after away matches in the frozen North!

 
kentwasp1
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
kentwasp1 (IP Logged)
18 February, 2018 19:10
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It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it



And I thought it was the expense of buying the players Pizza after away matches in the frozen North!

Maybe bad taste in mouth after our win today but maybe Dai bit off more than he could chew

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Tom A Hawk (IP Logged)
19 February, 2018 00:19
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It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it



And I thought it was the expense of buying the players Pizza after away matches in the frozen North!

Maybe bad taste in mouth after our win today but maybe Dai bit off more than he could chew

And there was me thinking it was part of the referee's budget.

 
bg
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
bg (IP Logged)
19 February, 2018 01:29
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kentwasp1
It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it



And I thought it was the expense of buying the players Pizza after away matches in the frozen North!

Maybe bad taste in mouth after our win today but maybe Dai bit off more than he could chew

And there was me thinking it was part of the referee's budget.

Would you like some wine with those sour grapes

 
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Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Tom A Hawk (IP Logged)
19 February, 2018 07:41
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It's apparently Dai's burger bill that did it



And I thought it was the expense of buying the players Pizza after away matches in the frozen North!

Maybe bad taste in mouth after our win today but maybe Dai bit off more than he could chew

And there was me thinking it was part of the referee's budget.

Would you like some wine with those sour grapes

Would you acknowledge JP Doyle made a couple of horrible calls yesterday?

 
ukms
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
ukms (IP Logged)
19 February, 2018 07:53
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Would you like some wine with those sour grapes

Would you acknowledge JP Doyle made a couple of horrible calls yesterday?

Wasn’t his best game but that applied to both teams .... plenty that could have been penalised both ways, your own players weren’t squeaky clean by any means ... reality is that’s life move on winking smiley .... if you keep blaming the ref you’ll end up like the Tigers board !

 
Chiefs
Re: Wasps break the Salary Cap
Chiefs (IP Logged)
19 February, 2018 08:19
JP had an awful game yesterday, way below his normal high standard, but we blew too many chances. Knock ons, holding on and going off feet when we had Wasps on the rack were not JPs fault.

We had ample opportunity to win that game yesterday but we didn’t.

Well done Wasps a well deserved win, and a full blooded “test match style” game between great rivals.

Stop blaming the ref........We sound like the All Blacks!

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