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Northampton
Discussion started by Part time chief (IP Logged), 04 May, 2019 18:14
Part time chief
Part time chief
04 May, 2019 18:14
Northampton has suddenly become a huge game for us now, what with us needing to win and Saints on the verge of a play off place. Slightly concerning is our recent form, havenít looked great in recent weeks. It may be due to qualifying so early, but I think you need to be showing some form before such a big game. Also a slight worry for me is how often we donít perform too well after a break, some guys wonít have played for 3 weeks. I think we need to up our game as fans too, letís get the park rocking and get the boys through!

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Pinhoe_Chief
04 May, 2019 18:50
Really need to step up, seems that the contenders have, but we are sliding. Not confident at all.

Jehovas Sandals
Jehovas Sandals
04 May, 2019 19:29
I have said I'm concerned about playing saints in two weeks and possibly again in 3.
They are on fire and definitely have momentum.
I'd like to think a full strength Chiefs will have enough to see us over the line but I'm really not confident.
We have a lot of work to do..... Getting our Mojo back ain't gonna happen overnight.
Let's hope RB and the coaches work the boys hard and get them mentally right



I drink and forget stuff!

ramseysaint
ramseysaint
04 May, 2019 21:36
How about you let us beat you 20-21?
That way you can have 4 unconverted tries, we'll just score penalties,. You'll get the 2 points you need, we'll get the win we need and we can have a proper match in the playoffs. smiling smiley

Chiefs
Chiefs
05 May, 2019 07:55
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ramseysaint
How about you let us beat you 20-21?
That way you can have 4 unconverted tries, we'll just score penalties,. You'll get the 2 points you need, we'll get the win we need and we can have a proper match in the playoffs. smiling smiley


I would settle for that tbh.

Osmium
Osmium
05 May, 2019 08:10
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Chiefs
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ramseysaint
How about you let us beat you 20-21?
That way you can have 4 unconverted tries, we'll just score penalties,. You'll get the 2 points you need, we'll get the win we need and we can have a proper match in the playoffs. smiling smiley


I would settle for that tbh.

Nice idea, but I'm pretty sure that if that happened we would be hosting Glaws in the semi. If we want to stay top we need a win. Unless I've misunderstood the way league position is calculated, in which case I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct me.

Statesman
Statesman
05 May, 2019 09:24
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Osmium
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Chiefs
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ramseysaint
How about you let us beat you 20-21?
That way you can have 4 unconverted tries, we'll just score penalties,. You'll get the 2 points you need, we'll get the win we need and we can have a proper match in the playoffs. smiling smiley


I would settle for that tbh.

Nice idea, but I'm pretty sure that if that happened we would be hosting Glaws in the semi. If we want to stay top we need a win. Unless I've misunderstood the way league position is calculated, in which case I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct me.

The 2 points you would get from that score would guarantee 1st place for you and the 4 points Saints would get would guarantee 4th place for them - so no you would not be hosting Glaws in that scenario.

Exeforever
Exeforever
05 May, 2019 10:29
I dare to say that yesterday's loss was probably just what was needed before the Northampton game. We now need to win to be sure of first place and the "easier" semi-final. Had we won or lost narrowly yesterday we could have gone into the Northampton game with nothing riding on it and slipped to another narrow win or more likely close defeat.

I agree with those who say that we have to play the first choice team against Northampton though I might pick Cuthbert ahead of Olly Woodburn just for more game time and Bodilly at full back as he deserves the chance after yesterday.

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clalan
05 May, 2019 12:11
Sorry I donít agree with this ďeasierĒ semi final lark, Iíve seen a lot of them this year and Glos are no better than Saint or Quins. Itís just the media has a thing about saint Cips. You see his long pass by other teams and they donít go overboard with praise. Heís good but not a league winning component. Yes they beat us in terrible conditions, but we let ourselves down that day.

SarrieSaint
SarrieSaint
05 May, 2019 12:31
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clalan
Sorry I donít agree with this ďeasierĒ semi final lark, Iíve seen a lot of them this year and Glos are no better than Saint or Quins.

Whilst I agree about Ciprianis deification being somewhat premature I do think Glaws are better suited to giving either Chiefs or Sarries an upset because they have a pack that will match up better.

Saints are playing wonderful rugby but they were a month ago too when they lost to Sarries precisely because their forwards couldn't give them parity or a platform. I think they'd have the same issue against Chiefs. To a lesser or greater extent the same is true of Quins and Sale too.

Osmium
Osmium
05 May, 2019 15:32
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Statesman
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Osmium
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Chiefs
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ramseysaint
How about you let us beat you 20-21?
That way you can have 4 unconverted tries, we'll just score penalties,. You'll get the 2 points you need, we'll get the win we need and we can have a proper match in the playoffs. smiling smiley


I would settle for that tbh.

Nice idea, but I'm pretty sure that if that happened we would be hosting Glaws in the semi. If we want to stay top we need a win. Unless I've misunderstood the way league position is calculated, in which case I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to correct me.



The 2 points you would get from that score would guarantee 1st place for you and the 4 points Saints would get would guarantee 4th place for them - so no you would not be hosting Glaws in that scenario.

Quite right. My humble apologies to those I contradicted, including Hughville on the other thread.

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clalan
06 May, 2019 17:14
Well we seem to have been written off by all media, Saints etc. You would think we'd done nothing all season and just appeared at the top with no merit.
With luck we won't have shoelace gate, against Saints like a while back when every two minutes and every set piece player laces needed attention. We've already played Wasps and Quins who must have written the book on gamesmanship and how to break up games by time wasting time, taking the knee and suddenly be fit as a fiddle when questioned by the ref.

I have a lot of Respect for Saints lets hope they come to play in the right spirit, and not try and win by any means as their predecessors.

JohnI
JohnI
06 May, 2019 23:16
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clalan
Well we seem to have been written off by all media, Saints etc. You would think we'd done nothing all season and just appeared at the top with no merit.
With luck we won't have shoelace gate, against Saints like a while back when every two minutes and every set piece player laces needed attention. We've already played Wasps and Quins who must have written the book on gamesmanship and how to break up games by time wasting time, taking the knee and suddenly be fit as a fiddle when questioned by the ref.

I have a lot of Respect for Saints lets hope they come to play in the right spirit, and not try and win by any means as their predecessors.

Although you say you have respect for saints I think you are being quite disrespectful to saints in your comments. Where do you get that Saints have written you off? I think if you look carefully Saints fans and Chris Boyd have the highest regards for Exeter and their achievements and I think I could say that if Exeter reach the final then the majority of saints fans would be backing them no matter the opponents.
Additionally your comment about hoping they come to play in the right spirit and comparing them to others who you have blasted basically as cheats, Iíd love to know when Saints have ever come to Sandy park and did otherwise but play in the right spirit because personally I canít remember such an occasion.

Exeter have got to the top on merit and have continually improved since I remember watching them as a neutral in the 2nd leg against Bristol when promoted, a few end of season games lost does not make them less than they really are.

Wampum
Wampum
07 May, 2019 11:17
Its all about peaking at the right time. I think we've learnt a lot over the last 2 years about squad management so the Saints game will be the test.

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clalan
07 May, 2019 12:10
John, I should have worded the previous post better with regards to Saints, we have had a great time with the Saintly folk since way back when you visited us in the championship and beat us in the cup etc.
I have stood through two matches at home where every trick in the book has been used until the referee started taking notice, but even then one said he could do nothing. It wasn't in the spirit of the game just a tactic to try and knock the opponent off plan. in this case it did, but it is gamesmanship, as no rugby was being played.
I have no complaints about losing to Sarries as they won fair and square, just played at pace etc, well done to them.
Maybe we are still naÔve mentally in respect of keeping our eyes on the plan, no matter what tactics are used.

Stevie Myler's right boot
Stevie Myler's right boot
07 May, 2019 13:50
TBH Saints like to play a high tempo game keeping the ball in play - I donít think you will have any worry about gamesmanship from us. One of the things Iím looking out for is how our scrum fares this time after spending most of the last game staring up our own backsides. We seem to have reduced the penalty count on oppo put in of late

tboullem
Houghton Saint
08 May, 2019 11:07
The key to the way Saints play at the moment is scoring a lot of tries with some expansive attacking rugby. However, this does not always work against a team with a really well drilled set of forwards ( lets face it, they are all big ! ) who can play the referee and milk penalties to their hearts content. That being said, Saints pack is getting more solid game by game and some referees, though not all, are becoming far more reluctant to give a penalty call when the ball is there to be played. We know that the Chiefs rolling maul can be devastating on the back of a good line out, so Saints will be looking to minimize the penalty count and the boot into the corner. The permutations are such that Chiefs may well need at least a draw to retain top spot whilst Saints could lose and still make fourth as Quins have a tough trip to Pests who are still seeking top six. In all honesty, I think that top four is a step too far for us at the moment but the team will come to Sandy Park to give it a real go on the basis of nothing to lose. Strong rumours that Dylan may play a part although I would be surprised if he were to start but a bit of nous at the end could be important. I don't think you will see too many shoe laces being repeatedly tied or forwards on their knees for a blow - not our style, Chris Boyd is not a Dai Young or Dean Richards !

Topofthepole
Topofthepole
15 May, 2019 07:25
Your going on about our recent form.
Be positive when Santi was fit we were winning now he's fit again and should play on Saturday we will win again!!

Osmium
Osmium
15 May, 2019 12:38
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Topofthepole
now he's fit again and should play on Saturday

Wow, that's brilliant news, where did you hear that?

Exeforever
Exeforever
15 May, 2019 13:33
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Topofthepole
Your going on about our recent form.
Be positive when Santi was fit we were winning now he's fit again and should play on Saturday we will win again!!

He was still in a leg brace at the Quins game is all that I know

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