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Quote:pityacker
Bitterly disappointed we only get 11 home Premier games now reduced to 10 and not seeing the best team in Europe to boot. Don't know what compensation to us season ticket holders they are going to offer but I can't see it compensating for missing this game. Disgusted.
Quote:alas
Very shabby that this was not made clear before people renewed season tickets.
Quote:"We do appreciate some of our supporters will be disappointed by one of our regular home games being moved.
We will be in touch with season ticket members and corporate sponsors directly to inform them of our compensatory offers.
Quote:Kath...
Just read the whole article and noted th followingQuote:"We do appreciate some of our supporters will be disappointed by one of our regular home games being moved.
We will be in touch with season ticket members and corporate sponsors directly to inform them of our compensatory offers.
Quote:sparkyweb
Although i note this is the second time its happened to Sarries, spare a thought for their fans.....
Quote:rubyrhone
I can't believe this wasn't known before the STs were on sale.
As has been said Falcons supporters get the fuzzy end of the lollipop in more ways than one. I will not be interested in compensatory offers just money back and a bit of honesty before profit.
I couldn't give a d*** about the American market.I would be happier if we developed the Pacific Nations or the 2nd tier in Europe. But no money in that I guess.
I watch rugby because its not football and hasn't got the smell of commercialism yet but its slowly coming to the point where I might give up
supporting.
Bitterly disappointed in the management.
Quote:lizard118
I understand some people are disappointed but I think this can have a mutually beneficial effect.
I understand it's one game less for some season ticket holders, but Iets not forget that most of the money in most sports is in generated by Tv. And rugby fans have to accept that this is the way things are going. NFL do it successfully in London and other European countries. Obviously these games generate money for the game and publicise the sport.
I would like to think there is a mutual benefit in the end, otherwise the club wouldn't do it.
Quote:pa8Quote:sparkyweb
Although i note this is the second time its happened to Sarries, spare a thought for their fans.....
Wasn't their last game in the US a home game for London Irish ? What exactly are the Sarries fans missing out on ? They still get all their home games and an away game is now on neutral ground.
Quote:Timeshock!
Not Happy, Not happy at all, its not just the loss of a home match, it is the loss of THAT home match. What about the effect on the team, to travel all that distance there and back and be prepared for the next match. I certainly don't see the Falcons v Saracens as a forgone result for them but it just got harder Somewhere in this deal must be a big sweetener for the club. This is not a nice way to announce this fixture.
Quote:.Mick Hogan
The club always puts its ST members first.
Quote:zackary71
is, Sarries are already the bigger team by far...so it should be their home game,not ours. .
Quote:falconbear
It is what it is. Would prefer to be watching the game live at KP but we need to balance the books. Semore deserves the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Quote:.Mick Hogan
The club always puts its ST members first.
Quote:Exiled Falcon
If I was a season ticket holder I'd be spitting feathers to be honest, however, I'm assuming the club are being remunerated quite handsomely for this. Bearing in mind Mick and the team have very limited avenues open for additional commercial ventures, this could be the difference between a really quality signing and a journeyman signing.
Quote:rubyrhone
I can't believe this wasn't known before the STs were on sale.
As has been said Falcons supporters get the fuzzy end of the lollipop in more ways than one. I will not be interested in compensatory offers just money back and a bit of honesty before profit.
I couldn't give a d*** about the American market.I would be happier if we developed the Pacific Nations or the 2nd tier in Europe. But no money in that I guess.
I watch rugby because its not football and hasn't got the smell of commercialism yet but its slowly coming to the point where I might give up supporting.
Bitterly disappointed in the management.
Quote:Monkey1
within the last week or so I commended Semore on here for a well-run ship, the best it has been for a very long time, and I have faith that he & the management took this decision with the best interests of the whole club, including our supporters, very much at heart. If this is what it takes to give us a decent chance of a top half finish next season, count me in.
Quote:steve1888
Disappointing because would like to see Sarries but there must be a good reason for it and maybe a sponsor from US could be found if it goes down well.
Only criticism of the club really is that maybe would have been best to clearly state compensation offers in the announcement and also what happens with season ticket sales for next season from now.
Could some special screening at KP be arranged with a bit of an American themed party?
Quote:Bedlington Lad
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/may/17/saracens-newcastle-philadelphia-premiership-rugby
From the Guardian site - interesting read I thought
Quote:Trebor1892Quote:lizard118
I understand some people are disappointed but I think this can have a mutually beneficial effect.
I understand it's one game less for some season ticket holders, but Iets not forget that most of the money in most sports is in generated by Tv. And rugby fans have to accept that this is the way things are going. NFL do it successfully in London and other European countries. Obviously these games generate money for the game and publicise the sport.
I would like to think there is a mutual benefit in the end, otherwise the club wouldn't do it.
I'd be keen to see whether London Irish and their fans would agree on that one
Quote:.Mick Hogan
Folks
Understand some of the frustrations and hopefully can clear a few comments up that have been raised.
Compensation will either be money back, credits to other games, additional tickets or a ticket to the game in the US if you are able to go. Its your choice which one you have and full details very soon
This opportunity has come around very quickly. We did not know that this was a possibility back in February when STs went on sale. If so we would have sold 16 matches not 17.
The commercial return for the club is VERY favourable. Whether we like it or not the success of a Premiership Rugby club is based on revenues generated. We are
still a loss-making club (over £2m last year) and rely on our owner's generosity every year to continue. If we can off-set that loss in other ways then we have to consider them.
It is great for the club to be considered for this event. The US is a big opportunity for the Premiership. Already NBC pay good money to cover it. By playing games there we show support for the US market and it will lead to increased revenues.
The club always puts its ST members first. We distributed more RWC tickets to matches than any club bar one other. We continue to offer more England International tickets to ST members than ANY club in the country. We have offered free tickets to Premiership Sevens for a number of years for ST members. No one will lose money with this game being moved and refunds on a pro-rata basis will be offered if that's what members want.
Happy to take individual comments via email as usual on mick.hogan@newcastle-falcons.co.uk
Regards
Mick Hogan
Managing Director
Quote:Kwa444
I do think the club has been a bit disingenuous as they did categorically state (was it Mick or someone else?) there was no truth to the rumour when it was first mooted months ago...
Quote:nook10
Great business by the falcons,even better if they offer us season ticket holders something special on the day.
Quote:JimJam350Quote:nook10
Great business by the falcons,even better if they offer us season ticket holders something special on the day.
Like free entry to a local National League club game where you can see what a real rugby club is like before it sells out to the money men?
Quote:slimjimmy
There seems to be confused mixed messages coming out of the club. Either we're close to breaking even or losing £2M per year. Which ever it is perhaps depends on the view that's most needed to be used at the time of discussion? Regardless, shifting the plumb game of the season 3000 miles away from KP to only double or maybe triple the individual match day revenue return seems to me to be poorly negotiated and grossly underselling the "product" set against the illwill created. As season ticket holders, Disappointed though I was, this was nothing compared the distraught look on my 11 year old's face when he realised he'd not get to see the Sarries galaticos next season, some freshly returned from Lions duty. I don't think telling him it's not so bad as Dad will be getting a £18 part refund for the tickets is going to cheer him up...
Quote:slimjimmy
There seems to be confused mixed messages coming out of the club. Either we're close to breaking even or losing £2M per year. Which ever it is perhaps depends on the view that's most needed to be used at the time of discussion? Regardless, shifting the plumb game of the season 3000 miles away from KP to only double or maybe triple the individual match day revenue return seems to me to be poorly negotiated and grossly underselling the "product" set against the illwill created. As season ticket holders, Disappointed though I was, this was nothing compared the distraught look on my 11 year old's face when he realised he'd not get to see the Sarries galaticos next season, some freshly returned from Lions duty. I don't think telling him it's not so bad as Dad will be getting a £18 part refund for the tickets is going
to cheer him up...
Quote:dick gQuote:JimJam350Quote:nook10
Great business by the falcons,even better if they offer us season ticket holders something special on the day.
Like free entry to a local National League club game where you can see what a real rugby club is like before it sells out to the money men?
I occasionally go to Blaydon and Tynedale. No comparison in terms of action on the field and atmosphere off it. If this is what "a real rugby club is like", I will stick to the unreality of the South Stand watching high-end rugby.
Quote:Daveyb
Losing a home game versus far wider global exposure can only be a good thing.
Quote:Daveyb
Not so Leipy. They will fully expect Saracens to win and win handsomely. This is a big financial fish for us and who can blame the club for accepting. It is personal loss v club gain and in the bigger picture, which is more valuable and to who. It is obvious many fans do not understand the pressures of running a large organisation on the gate receipts we generate