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New scrum laws
dick g (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 09:15
New scrum laws sound good. Scrum halves must align their outer shoulder with line down middle of tunnel. The ball must still be put in straight, but it will be closer to the feet of the non-offending front row one of whom must try to hook the ball, thus ending the pushing over the ball technique. Eights are permitted to pick the ball from the second row with the idea of making quicker ball release. What do you think? Seems to me that it will preserve the basic idea of the scrum while limiting delays. All depends of course, on the whistlemongers.

 
Re: New scrum laws
Monkey1 (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 11:44
Referees will ignore these as they have ignored others. Business as usual.

 
Re: New scrum laws
rubyrhone (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 14:10
Which shoulder is outer?

 
Re: New scrum laws
dick g (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 14:16
The one furthest from the SH's front row. This way the idea is that the put-in favours the non-offending side. I like the idea of obliging one of the non-offending front row to hook. Reduces the initial impact of the shove and allows the opposition to compete.

 
Re: New scrum laws
rubyrhone (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 17:17
Thanks Dick. I can now amaze my friends.

 
Re: New scrum laws
lizard118 (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 18:27
Always amazed by the the constant changes upfront but nothing much changes if sir doesn't apply the laws clearly. Business as usual I imagine.

 
Re: New scrum laws
Foot Up (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 21:20
The none offending side always had an advantage at the scrum.

They put the ball in from the Loosehead side of the scrum hence the hookers head (and his body) was closer than the opposition hooker.

If you took an opposition ball you took a strike against the head (the advantage of being a heads width closer to the put in).

Get back to the original laws and put the ball in straight and down the middle, and let the hooker ply his trade.


And yes I remember getting three points for a try.

 
Re: New scrum laws
exhooker (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 22:29
And I didn't throw the ball in at the line out

 
Re: New scrum laws
aidanb (IP Logged)
14 August, 2017 22:47
I don't care anymore about where the ball is put in or how straight.

I just want the front rows to stay up and not look for penalties

Use the scrum to destroy an opposition pack by wearing them down physically and mentally. I don't like the way props play chicken with a ref giving penalties. Push straight or cheat like buggery but stay up and let the ball come out.

 
Re: New scrum laws
Leipziger (IP Logged)
16 August, 2017 09:05
Quote:
aidanb
I don't care anymore about where the ball is put in or how straight.
I just want the front rows to stay up and not look for penalties

Use the scrum to destroy an opposition pack by wearing them down physically and mentally. I don't like the way props play chicken with a ref giving penalties. Push straight or cheat like buggery but stay up and let the ball come out.

Completely agree with that.


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