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So was it worth it ?
Discussion started by zackary71 , 17 September, 2017 00:01
So was it worth it ?
zackary71 17 September, 2017 00:01
Soundly beaten on the day and no points to show for our endeavours. Can't help but think despite the additional income generated, overall it was a bad move playing abroad, especially when by rights, it should have been Sarries home game. Any thoughts ?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17/09/2017 05:46 by zackary71.

Re: So was it worth it ?
digitalsys 17 September, 2017 00:07
Very good business for the club - no complaints here

Re: So was it worth it ?
GeordieFalcon 17 September, 2017 00:07
If the stories radiating around about the amount of revenue we are getting from that one game then absolutely yes its worth it.

If you mean for the development of rugby in the US...absolutely not. I was enjoying watching the grass grow at times. was more entertaining.



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Re: So was it worth it ?
pityacker 17 September, 2017 00:09
Empty stadium little interest from the Yanks scrappy game well beaten ,personally really against it from day one and watching that I think the TV company putting the dosh up will be wondering why they got involved hope Falcons don't repeat it.

Re: So was it worth it ?
Robs 17 September, 2017 00:12
Would just love to know how much Saracens netted.
We were told we would earn 2-3 times the amount we would have
Made if the game had been played at KP
Anybody prepared to hazard a guess?

Re: So was it worth it ?
slimjimmy 17 September, 2017 00:13
Let's hope so. I hope we didn't need ticket sales to make this add up, as a crowd of 2or3 thousand won't fill the coffers. Near empty stadiums aren't good viewing on TV nor reflect well on whoever was marketing it. If the management are genuinely content with the financial outcome then fair enough it was worth it.

Re: So was it worth it ?
NorfolkFalcon 17 September, 2017 00:14
It was worth it purely for the revenue to use for ground development. However I cannot see how that would do anything to increase the profile of our club or the overall profile of Rugby. This result may well have happened at the KP but I am confident that if this game was staged at the KP we would have seen a closer game. It's frustrating that we have forfeited our home game for this venture. I sincerely hope that this is the last time we make the trip stateside. Let's focus on our own development in our local area.



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Re: So was it worth it ?
GeordieFalcon 17 September, 2017 00:16
Ive heard figures of around £6m ...is that likely to be correct? If so then yes it was worth it.

Re: So was it worth it ?
Robs 17 September, 2017 00:17
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NorfolkFalcon
It was worth it purely for the revenue to use for ground development. However I cannot see how that would do anything to increase the profile of our club or the overall profile of Rugby. This result may well have happened at the KP but I am confident that if this game was staged at the KP we would have seen a closer game. It's frustrating that we have forfeited our home game for this venture. I sincerely hope that this is the last time we make the trip stateside for a long time. Let's focus on our own development in our local area.
Spot on mate

Re: So was it worth it ?
falconsfan07 17 September, 2017 00:22
Quote:
Robs
Quote:
NorfolkFalcon
It was worth it purely for the revenue to use for ground development. However I cannot see how that would do anything to increase the profile of our club or the overall profile of Rugby. This result may well have happened at the KP but I am confident that if this game was staged at the KP we would have seen a closer game. It's frustrating that we have forfeited our home game for this venture. I sincerely hope that this is the last time we make the trip stateside for a long time. Let's focus on our own development in our local area.
Spot on mate

What he said.

Our players always go better playing in front of the home faithful and a shouting south stand. That was a dire atmosphere from the sounds of it.

Mind you it's been good to get some money in the bank that will hopefully keep those northstand ra warm in the seasons to come.

Latu was class

Re: So was it worth it ?
Falc Dancer 17 September, 2017 00:40
Attendance of less than 6300 & below par performance

Re: So was it worth it ?
Trebor1892 17 September, 2017 00:50
First off, forget the “off par performance” comments. We played that against THE best club side this side of the equator. Didn’t play our best but limited them and our defence only conceded due to ‘il-discipline’ - got to admit most of that was forced by them but we conceded 3 points at times where in previous years we would’ve given 7 away.
Thought the penalty try was questionable - first thought was it hit the side of his head, JP makes the call and can understand why he would give it.
Ultimately we would have been dead and gone after 30 mins 18 months ago, this team is going to push everyone - remember Deanos targets of number of internationals and top quality players in his 5 year target? He can’t be far off now!!
Lastly Mr Green, out performing some of the best names in Europe right now. Next falcons international?? Major competition but can’t be many better at the moment??

Re: So was it worth it ?
Heaf 17 September, 2017 02:04
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GeordieFalcon
Ive heard figures of around £6m ...is that likely to be correct? If so then yes it was worth it.

That sounds like a lot GF - who would pay that amount and what would they have expected to get out of it?

Re: So was it worth it ?
zackary71 17 September, 2017 05:51
One big heartwarming positive was our travelling support...you know who you are ! Heard loud and proud on the TV. Well done to you all, and I hope you all enjoy the rest of your stay.

Re: So was it worth it ?
exhooker 17 September, 2017 07:39
We spilled a lot of ball, but sometimes that is due to the skill of the tackler. The first try was Sarries captalising on Hammers kick straight into touch, and the 2nd one- 2 more inches and Goneva has an interception try. 29-7 was perhaps a little harsh but it bodes well for the rest of the season.

Re: So was it worth it ?
Pool_falcon 17 September, 2017 08:10
We may have outplayed but would it been any better playing at home against the best side in the NH? Saracens are outstanding and this was possibly the best side they can put out. To hold them to under 30pts and earn a big packet that only help the club is an overall success, despite the gloomy outlook.

We are missing carrying options in the pack still and it would nice to get some of the exciting option in the backs out in the next few weeks. Flood will make a huge difference to the whole side imo.

Re: So was it worth it ?
Sara'sman 17 September, 2017 08:52
Thought you put in a great defensive shift against our nearly full strength team though I remain very disappointed at missing my trip to Kingston Park. Green outstanding in the lineout. Quick question on Callum. What is his durability like these days? At Leeds Carnegie he and Barrow were full of promised but Callum seemed to spend an eternity injured.

Interesting to see Hodgson develop - highly thought of by the Leeds fans (though not me - rather light and short kicker imo!) but not particularly by the management. If you can get Ryan Burrows fit for a full 80 minutes you'll have an excellent highly durable ball carrier to add to an already impressive back row. Great to see a northern side developing under Deano.

Re: So was it worth it ?
Rafpilot2000 17 September, 2017 08:59
Agreed with the above. Last night wasn't a whitewash and our defence stood up well against a team of internationals with an international bench . The penalty try was harsh and the points came from kicks.
It was a long way for guys to travel but I'm sure they were welcomed by the Americans who seem to embrace all that is British and I'm sure there are a few hangovers today.
Like football , the issue with rugby is that there aren't enough breaks in the game for a commercial to company to make money from broadcasting it. The crowd may have been small but it's great that Falcons have gained this exposure.
Finance wise, it must be less that £6million , significantly less but despite the pain of losing a home match , the investment into the club for the long run has got to be well worth it.
Realistically , home or away we weren't going to win that fixture. So what we traded was an expected loss and turned it into $$$

Re: So was it worth it ?
dick g 17 September, 2017 09:13
Only if the financial return is in squillions will I consider this adventure to have been worth the loss of potential win points if we had played at KP. Having said that, to deny the Fezzies a four try bonus was something. This was really their first match of the season with the return of their Lions and they had a major statement to make. Interesting to hear Chick at the Q&A at KP before the game on TV say that the squad has targeted the play-offs. I am still dreaming!

Re: So was it worth it ?
Falcons_Thunder 17 September, 2017 09:21
Again Callum Green was outstanding and how itoji got MOTM was a mystery. His lineout calling was awful and he barely made much ground with ball in hand. Tho highlight of the game was nili putting him down hard. Looking at bath away is a tough game, but Irish at home the week after needs to be nothing less than 5 points if we wanna be a top 6 side

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