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Monkey1
17 September, 2017 09:31
I can assure you that the figure of 6m for this game is bar talk conjured up from nowhere and is downright silly. It has been commercially very good for the club but not a lottery win.

Would we have done better at KP? Nobody can say but personally I don't think it would have been any different. Sarries are so strong with their ranks of internationals that they just trample all over home advantage, be it here or anywhere else.

I think the experience will have done the whole squad a power of good, something to lift them up a bit for the season ahead. Many of our younger players won't have been on this sort of adventure before, it is truly character building stuff, and that can only be a good thing.

DJMC
DJMc
17 September, 2017 10:11
If I had to pick one game to play in the USA then this would have been it because in all likelihood the result would be much the same.

Going forward, if other games are to be played in America by other teams then more thought needs to go into the when and where they are played. The humidity sapped the energy from the players and produced a slippery ball leading to all those handling errors. Also what looked to be a very good looking stadium didn't look so good being only a third full.

I am sure the Falcons fans who made the trip think it was worth it and will forever have a tale to tell. And well done to them for making themselves heard.

lizard118
lizard118
17 September, 2017 11:06
This was about money, and from that point of view it's a success.
Much as I don't totally agree with it we obviously needed the money. Like two seasons ago for Irish this was always about Sarries than Falcons.
We move on..

Kwa444
Kwa444
17 September, 2017 13:53
Sarries have an excellent side and it out the best part of it.

They always say that home advantage is worth 16 points, so in my reckoning we missed an LBP. However, if we got the players we got this summer due to extra finance and we don't get relegated by a point then the exercise is probably positive for us.

Onwards and (hopefully) upwards. Dont expect much from Bath and hoping for a win against Irish. That would mean 3 from 5 which would be 13 wins out of 22 over the season which would be about top 6. That would be a very good season for me.

upwardonward
upwardonward
17 September, 2017 14:15
It was IMO.
Experience, bonding, and playing against a team who could IMO possibly beat all but the top 4 International sides in the world.
Crowd might not have been that large but I would love to know the worldwide viewing figures!
Puts us without doubt on the Rugby world map with a few pennies in the bank.

Started well, but kicking straight out was schoolboy error, and Boom you are 7 down.
Pulled it back ,but second half Saracens put us under constant pressure.
Thought our defence was solid and the effort unquestionable.
Keep that up lads.

Exiled Falcon
Exiled Falcon
17 September, 2017 19:19
At the time this was announced I seem to remember this games was worth around 500-600,000 which we really couldn't knock back. The stadium improvements funded make the whole exercise justified too. From a bigger picture however, I hope this is the end of it. It does no one any good when this sort of exercise can only attract 6-7,000 paying customers and the Americans are obviously not interested unless a team with 'Irish' in the name is playing. I think we need to be addressing the lack of paying customer interest in the lower divisions over here and club sustainability before we talk about selling our product abroad.

From a players' perspective I bet this has been great fun however, and any travelling Falcons or Sarries fans hopefully had the best away trip they've ever had. You don't often get the chance of such a trip to watch your team playing.

alchemist
alchemist
17 September, 2017 19:27
I've added some comments on the 'Team v Saracens' thread.

AFalcon19
AFalcon24
17 September, 2017 19:48
The most disappointing thing for me was how empty the stadium looked. smiling smiley

falconbear
falconbear
17 September, 2017 20:12
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Exiled Falcon
From a players' perspective I bet this has be
en great fun however, and any travelling Falcons or Sarries fans hopefully had the best away trip they've ever had. You don't often get the chance of such a trip to watch your team playing.

I've heard rumours of a great post-match night out in Philly last night. Sarries and Falcons players mixing with Falcons fans in an Irish Bar. Everybody well behaved - just good old fashioned rugby socialising. Love it.

Exiled Falcon
Exiled Falcon
17 September, 2017 21:04
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falconbear
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Exiled Falcon
From a players' perspective I bet this has be
en great fun however, and any travelling Falcons or Sarries fans hopefully had the best away trip they've ever had. You don't often get the chance of such a trip to watch your team playing.

I've heard rumours of a great post-match night out in Philly last night. Sarries and Falcons players mixing with Falcons fans in an Irish Bar. Everybody well behaved - just good old fashioned rugby socialising. Love it.

Fantastic if true and what sets rugby apart.

dick g
dick g
17 September, 2017 21:49
After 24 hours and two bottles of vino collapso, I have reached a balanced assessment. If the dosh quoted is as described above, the exercise has been worth it. I endorse all the above observations about team bonding etc. And looking at our league position at the end of Round Three, I feel pretty good. Nine points from a potential 15 and two wins from three is a good start to the season. We have emerged as a top end side. And the feeling in the South Stand is extraordinary. It has never been a better time to be a Falconista since the golden age of Rob Andrew and the title.

Think what I'do be like if I'd gone for bottle three!

London Magpie
London Magpie
18 September, 2017 01:52
Glad to know us fans over at the game were heard. Didn't see the boys out last night but had beers with Sarries. They are a good bunch and stated they knew they had been in a tough game. American fans were great and despite the low attendance they are as keen as mustard. Sadly about last night was that JP Doyle was drinking with the Sarries boys all night.
On a positive note, David Flatman is even better in real life. A funny guy. Boris Johnston has just passed me. Hope he is not on my flight. Looking forward to Bath. Come on you Falcons.

Bedlington Lad
Bedlington Lad
18 September, 2017 10:42
"Sadly about last night was that JP Doyle was drinking with the Sarries boys all night"

Good way to ensure the 50-50's go your way! Our lads need to take him out in the Toon after the next home game - we'll never lose a 50-50 again!

bigal1507
bigal1507
18 September, 2017 13:14
Just home from what was a fantastic experience. Sports mad city with passionate fans but clearly not many made it to the rugby. Was strange to hear the stadium announcer ask fans to move closer together so TV would show how passionate Philadelphia fans are for their sport. Was it worth it? Clearly it was. The management and owner have made strides over the last 3 years and without a doubt, this was a commercial opportunity not to be missed.
To hear that the Falcons community team had been in Philadelphia for a number of weeks and see young American kids walk round the pitch at half time wearing Newcastle Falcons apparel was great to see.....Well done to everyone involved and especially to fellow Falcons fans who made themselves heard.

emerging shark
emerging shark
18 September, 2017 17:32
Sharks fan in peace... even as a Makem I always hope you guys win (except against us).
I was looking forward to the match and even got home from the pub early to watch it. Wish I hadn't. It was a dire game riddled with errors and of course the atmosphere seemed unreal..
You kinda felt that it was an exhibition match not a premier league game.
I guess we might end up doing something similar next season. Apparently PRL have signed a 4 deal to send teams over...
Good luck next week.

bonnery
bonnery
19 September, 2017 00:51
Forgive my ignorance - but what or where is this pot of gold everyone seems to be referring to coming from? I just don't see it.

I would understand if someone had attempted to put a projected value on potential new fans buying merchandise etc. but I cannot for the life of me see where any huge pots of cash alluded to could possibly come from with a spectacle and crowd that underwhelming. Doesn't make any sense to me.

London Irish in New York around St Patrick's Day was the original thinking, and made LOTS of sense. This was initially a deal London Irish struck but abandoned after their relegation. It was never a Prem Rugby initiative...they just went along for the ride.

Newcastle in Philapdelphia in mid September?? Bonkers.

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Monkey1
19 September, 2017 07:17
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bonnery
Forgive my ignorance - but what or where is this pot of gold everyone seems to be referring to coming from? I just don't see it.

Premiership rugby on telly is big business over the pond, and that is driving sponsorship & other financial issues. Therefore there is pressure to play one game per season on American soil. The pot of gold as you put it is the large payment that our club demanded (quite rightly) as compensation for agreeing to the game.

As for London Irish being behind the NY game, I heard that it was dictated from above by the same people who wanted this game played.

aapierre
aidanb
19 September, 2017 21:52
I've just remembered a moment late on which was worth it and was pure Ally Hogg class.

Our replacement front row of Mavinga, Socino and Davison were only just holding against Thompson-Stringer, Tolofua and Longbottom. (Incidentally Flats was full of love for Thompson-Stringer but also admiring of young Davison).

Then came that pure moment of Hogginess.

He scrum tilts a little and our number 8 was now going a little bit sideways towards our posts. Hogg held on and held on and then picked up, from that moment it looked a little bit hairy but he timed his movement and had the whole sarries back row go past him infield and he just glided through the gap and made ten + yards.

Loved the little cameo.

Kwa444
Kwa444
20 September, 2017 09:37
Ironically with the crowd size, I suspect the Falcons were actually the real winners from the game.

Sarries didn't end up any better off than they would have at KP. Their fans missed a trip North.

The broadcasters had a poor game with a low turnout. Not ideal for sponsors either. The Falcons perhaps dropped a point but walked away with a big payday.

falconbear
falconbear
20 September, 2017 11:17
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Kwa444
Ironically with the crowd size, I suspect the Falcons were actually the real winners from the game.
Sarries didn't end up any better off than they would have at KP. Their fans missed a trip North.

The broadcasters had a poor game with a low turnout. Not ideal for sponsors either. The Falcons perhaps dropped a point but walked away with a big payday.

It will be interesting to see if we 'drop a point' this Saturday after the Philly adventure. Will the team be galvanized after, effectively, an American rugby tour. Or will they be jet lagged, tired and not really wanting to get on the coach to Barf?

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