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Just watched the highlights again and realised Irish didn't get a losing bonus point. My bad!
Nalanga, the winger they signed from clermont might be a handful too.
Trevieranus will most likely run hard at the 9-10 all night but I'm sure Welch and Latu will put in some good shots on the night too!
Nalanga, the winger they signed from clermont might be a handful too.
Trevieranus will most likely run hard at the 9-10 all night but I'm sure Welch and Latu will put in some good shots on the night too!
Might Mermoz and Flood be fit? Our props will need some back up some time, too.
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Might Mermoz and Flood be fit? Our props will need some back up some time, too.
They've might indeed, Harris has played every game and could be due a rest, Mermoz will need an impressive game if he does start sav Charris has been class.
Even if Flood is fit I think Willis deserves another start after is performance at Bath, I'm sure Flood would get an amazing reception from the KP faithful off the bench tho.
Irish fan in peace!
Really impressed by you guys this season, especially the win over barf! Quite worried by this game as Newcastle is a tough place to go especially after 3 demoralising losses! Always enjoy talking to your fans but unfortunately can't get up there Friday, might be a good one to miss however! For those interested here's what team i think the coaches will go with
Elrington
Paice
Franks
Mcnally
De chaves
Schatz
Cowan
Treviranus
Steele
Marshall
Nalaga
Williams
Tikorituma
Lewington
Bell
Faingaa
Du Plessis
Hoskins
Van de merve
Gilsenan
Meehan
Tonks
Ojo
Really impressed by you guys this season, especially the win over barf! Quite worried by this game as Newcastle is a tough place to go especially after 3 demoralising losses! Always enjoy talking to your fans but unfortunately can't get up there Friday, might be a good one to miss however! For those interested here's what team i think the coaches will go with
Elrington
Paice
Franks
Mcnally
De chaves
Schatz
Cowan
Treviranus
Steele
Marshall
Nalaga
Williams
Tikorituma
Lewington
Bell
Faingaa
Du Plessis
Hoskins
Van de merve
Gilsenan
Meehan
Tonks
Ojo
Irish are a great club and I hope they stay up.... but this has to be a five point game if we are to prove our credentials as a top 6 team. I would keep the same 15 as last week as they were terrific at times. And if flood and mermoz are fit put them on the bench for some much needed game time
Talk of 5 pointers I find disrespectful of your opponent. I think it's a bonus, but much rather we aim to win the game.
Quite a bit of talk of 5 pointers on the Bath thread prior to playing us, and we know what happened there.
But agree I would also keep the 15 who started at Bath.
Quite a bit of talk of 5 pointers on the Bath thread prior to playing us, and we know what happened there.
But agree I would also keep the 15 who started at Bath.
We have the pleasure of Mr Tempest on the whistle for this game, assisted by Hamish Smales & Peter Allan running touch. Keeping warm in front of the telly is Stuart Terheege.
Think i'd bench at least one of Welsh/Vickers. They've had a pretty heavy start.
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Talk of 5 pointers I find disrespectful of your opponent. I think it's a bonus, but much rather we aim to win the game.
Quite a bit of talk of 5 pointers on the Bath thread prior to playing us, and we know what happened there.
But agree I would also keep the 15 who started at Bath.
I always tend to think we should take each game as it comes and not look at finishing positions etc.
For me that even includes just respecting what is in front of us and doing our best to get the win. End of
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Talk of 5 pointers I find disrespectful of your opponent. I think it's a bonus, but much rather we aim to win the game.
Quite a bit of talk of 5 pointers on the Bath thread prior to playing us, and we know what happened there.
But agree I would also keep the 15 who started at Bath.
I always tend to think we should take each game as it comes and not look at finishing positions etc.
For me that even includes just respecting what is in front of us and doing our best to get the win. End of
What youse said, you don't deserve or have the right to anything in this league, you have to work for it, we should go into every game looking to take the win and go from there.
I would hope that we were targeting this as a 5 pointer, and LI doing the same.
It's nice to be positive going into these matches and even think to mention the hallowed 5 points. Probably a bit hopeful as Irish have a point to prove and have a good team. I reckon not losing is a result and anything else is a bonus.
However a couple more wins and we will probably have avoided relegation this year and then every point thereafter is a step closer to the top 6. I think we have been on the losing end enough to enjoy our wins, unlike Bath who seem to expect it.
What I do find arrogant though is when we play teams and it's assumed that our wins are down to the other team playing badly rather than accepting that we are a pretty decent team at present.
However a couple more wins and we will probably have avoided relegation this year and then every point thereafter is a step closer to the top 6. I think we have been on the losing end enough to enjoy our wins, unlike Bath who seem to expect it.
What I do find arrogant though is when we play teams and it's assumed that our wins are down to the other team playing badly rather than accepting that we are a pretty decent team at present.
No disrespect taken, as said above, I'd hope both teams were aiming for a 5 point win.
I'm genuinely pleased for Falcons uprising in the past few seasons, what's most pleasing about it is that it seems to be done "right" i.e. pick players that work for you within a reasonable budget and train as a squad. How ever it was done it does seem to be working and that's pleasing.
That's not going to stop me hoping we take the wheels off your racing chariot tomorrow but that's to be expected.
Nice preview - particularly like the understanding of where Irish as a club is and how they got there.
Slight corrections: last week's game was against Sale - the Exeter game was the previous week. Not that it matters the effect was much the same. Although in neither game did we allow 40 points past us (37 and 36... ah, fair enough).
Good luck for the rest of the season (tomorrow and New Year excepting).
I'm genuinely pleased for Falcons uprising in the past few seasons, what's most pleasing about it is that it seems to be done "right" i.e. pick players that work for you within a reasonable budget and train as a squad. How ever it was done it does seem to be working and that's pleasing.
That's not going to stop me hoping we take the wheels off your racing chariot tomorrow but that's to be expected.
Nice preview - particularly like the understanding of where Irish as a club is and how they got there.
Slight corrections: last week's game was against Sale - the Exeter game was the previous week. Not that it matters the effect was much the same. Although in neither game did we allow 40 points past us (37 and 36... ah, fair enough).
Good luck for the rest of the season (tomorrow and New Year excepting).
15 Alex Tait
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Chris Harris
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Craig Willis
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Rob Vickers
2 Santiago Socino
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Nili Latu
Replacements
16 Scott Lawson
17 Sami Mavinga
18 Trevor Davison
19 Sean Robinson
20 Ally Hogg
21 Sam Stuart
22 Joel Hodgson
23 Josh Matavesi
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Chris Harris
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Vereniki Goneva
10 Craig Willis
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Rob Vickers
2 Santiago Socino
3 Jon Welsh
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Nili Latu
Replacements
16 Scott Lawson
17 Sami Mavinga
18 Trevor Davison
19 Sean Robinson
20 Ally Hogg
21 Sam Stuart
22 Joel Hodgson
23 Josh Matavesi
Great to see Tait back, himself and bobby are really the unsung heros of the club.
If i could I would take 2 points now! After our excellent start I'd happily watch a very entertaining game tomorrow and leave with a losing and try bonus point or Draw. The Irish are a strong TEAM , nothing like when London Welsh, Brizzle, Wuss came back into the Prem.
Really excited for tomorrow night. The lads need to take advantage of this momentum and get the win. In the past this is the type of fixture that we have not turned up for and if we are to progress up the table this is a must win game
Team looks good but where are Flood and Maxine?
Team looks good but where are Flood and Maxine?
Glad to see Tait. Irish look strong on paper. This will be a tough game, I think.
I can understand calls for flood and mermoz but who do you drop out of the squad? Joel, metevesi, Harris?? All have had a great start to the season so what kind of message does it send out if they are dropped? They should be eased in with the European games and if the have stormers then Deano could have a bit more justification to the squad in dropping somebody.
I honestly don't understand the fixation with Flood and Maxime whilst the guys on the pitch are delivering. They will be brought in when ready I'm sure.
In the meantime we have a strong team out more than capable of delivering the goods. If we can match Bath at the Rec, I'm sure we can more than match Irish on our own patch.
Really nice to see some continuity in selection. Guys on the periphery have to play themselves into the team, and that can only be a good thing long term.
Excited to see if Craig Willis is the real deal and replicate his performance against Bath.
In the meantime we have a strong team out more than capable of delivering the goods. If we can match Bath at the Rec, I'm sure we can more than match Irish on our own patch.
Really nice to see some continuity in selection. Guys on the periphery have to play themselves into the team, and that can only be a good thing long term.
Excited to see if Craig Willis is the real deal and replicate his performance against Bath.
Irish Team:
15 Tommy Bell,
14 Alex Lewington,
13 Aseli Tikoirotuma,
12 Johnny Williams,
11 Napolioni Nalaga,
10 James Marshall,
9 Scott Steele,
1 Ben Franks,
2 David Paice (c),
3 Petrus Du Plessis,
4 Franco van der Merwe,
5 Sebastian De Chaves,
6 Josh McNally,
7 Blair Cowan,
8 Ofisa Treviranus
Replacements:
16 Saia Fainga’a,
17 Harry Elrington,
18 Ollie Hoskins,
19 Teofilo Paulo,
20 Conor Gilsenan,
21 Ben Meehan,
22 Greig Tonks,
23 Tom Fowlie
15 Tommy Bell,
14 Alex Lewington,
13 Aseli Tikoirotuma,
12 Johnny Williams,
11 Napolioni Nalaga,
10 James Marshall,
9 Scott Steele,
1 Ben Franks,
2 David Paice (c),
3 Petrus Du Plessis,
4 Franco van der Merwe,
5 Sebastian De Chaves,
6 Josh McNally,
7 Blair Cowan,
8 Ofisa Treviranus
Replacements:
16 Saia Fainga’a,
17 Harry Elrington,
18 Ollie Hoskins,
19 Teofilo Paulo,
20 Conor Gilsenan,
21 Ben Meehan,
22 Greig Tonks,
23 Tom Fowlie
Looking like a strong team there come on Falcons!. 
Flood and Mermoz are international class players, I think the fixation to have then available and playing is obvious
I would imagine Flood and Mermoz will be on top salaries and both the players and management wouldn’t have visualised leaving them out when they were recruited however it would be wrong to drop anyone after last week but would expect both of them if fit to be introduced from the bench in the next week or two.
Patience can reap great rewards.....
I absolutely agree with you. We couldn't ask for any more from the players thus far so why pick them? They are going to need to up their game to get in the team now. That is what is going to make a difference. This way, we won't get a mermoz who is coasting...we will get a mermoz who needs to be at the top of his game. Ditto with flood.
My one concern is the pressure on the prop forwards who have played an awful lot of rugby already. I would have looked at maybe being Sami a start, for example.
I think it is a really important game. The win at bath doesn't mean much if we lose at home to an Irish side that are going to be RABIDLY motivated.
By the way, I wouldn't swap green, witty, taka, cooper or goneva for any other players in the league.
My one concern is the pressure on the prop forwards who have played an awful lot of rugby already. I would have looked at maybe being Sami a start, for example.
I think it is a really important game. The win at bath doesn't mean much if we lose at home to an Irish side that are going to be RABIDLY motivated.
By the way, I wouldn't swap green, witty, taka, cooper or goneva for any other players in the league.
Don't think the burden on Welsh and Vickers should be too bad. After this opening block of 6 games the rest of the premiership season comes in bite-sized pieces and they can be rested for most of the Anglo Welsh and ECC games.
Good side. The back 3 of Tait, Goneva and DTH is the strongest we possess in my opinion and has the ability to cause any team havoc.
Agree with Alas, plenty of time to rest Key players in the cup games and chance for some others to put their hands up.
Couldn't be unhappy with the team considering their form and can't wait for the game.
The ref link is great too, saves the missus bothering me with questions.
Couldn't be unhappy with the team considering their form and can't wait for the game.
The ref link is great too, saves the missus bothering me with questions.
Steve 1888 you should be happy to give your wife the benefit of your vast rugby knowledge
I think our scrum will be up against it tonight Irish have Ben Franks, David Paice and Petrus Du Plessis anchoring theirs. Can't see us getting much change there.
Interesting much up with Latu against Treviranus! I can hear the shuddering!
Interesting much up with Latu against Treviranus! I can hear the shuddering!
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I think our scrum will be up against it tonight Irish have Ben Franks, David Paice and Petrus Du Plessis anchoring theirs. Can't see us getting much change there.
Interesting much up with Latu against Treviranus! I can hear the shuddering!
Latu will be relishing that battle.
I remember when we played Northampton at KP in the prem last season, Teimana Harrison vs Nili Latu, some of the hits Nili put in on him where colossal and borderline illegal! Could hear the connection at the back of the Southstand
That's a subplot to the game itself Ff07.
Latu is getting back to his warrior best. Another who has been unlucky with injuries and was not the same player last season.
Latu is getting back to his warrior best. Another who has been unlucky with injuries and was not the same player last season.
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That's a subplot to the game itself Ff07.
Latu is getting back to his warrior best. Another who has been unlucky with injuries and was not the same player last season.
I agree, hes been fantastic in every game this season, absolute warrior in defence.
I have noticed he's quite crafty with his running lines as he runs quite close to the referee and uses him as a blocker sometimes, crafty play but also effective for getting you on the front foot and preventing the oppo from smashing you!
Irish fan in peace
Latu is a cracking player, so intelligent as well as powerful. For us playing against you I would say dealing with him and Takulua is key, as those two guys really make you tick.
Good luck for tonight and the season, for a whole number of reasons it's great to see you guys going well and kicking on from being the relegation battle.
Here's hoping for a great game tonight.
Latu is a cracking player, so intelligent as well as powerful. For us playing against you I would say dealing with him and Takulua is key, as those two guys really make you tick.
Good luck for tonight and the season, for a whole number of reasons it's great to see you guys going well and kicking on from being the relegation battle.
Here's hoping for a great game tonight.
Dont underestimate Craig Willis either Ozzy. He's developing nicely and showed some lovely game management and creativity at times last weekend at Bath.
Speaking of Latu, Simon Uzokwe looks like he's taking lessons in physicality from Latu. Was bruising on Monday night.
One to watch
Speaking of Latu, Simon Uzokwe looks like he's taking lessons in physicality from Latu. Was bruising on Monday night.
One to watch
We'll not be underestimating anyone GF, we are not in any position to be doing that. My thinking is more around if we stop Latu and Takulua then we should in theory have to worry less about what the guys from 10-15 are capable of doing.
Im sure Tait, DTH, Goneva, JP and his Brother, Mark Wilson etc hope your lads go out thinking that aswell
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