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stillamaccafan
stillamaccafan
23 August, 2018 10:05
Slap on the proverbial 'goldens'from the RFU after a 5 hour hearing! It would have taken them longer for the port and cigars.Good to see Cips had 'scrubbed up' for the 'dressing down',I've seen better dressed beggars at the Haymarket.

tino1888
steve1888
23 August, 2018 10:52
I think the whole thing has been a bit overhyped because of who it is and without knowing the trigger and seeing footage or a good description of what what happened then it's difficult to comment.

A bar in town he'd probably have just been flung out by a doorman like many others.

Was he in wrong , yes no doubt. Anywhere near as bag as being made out - most probably not.

limpopo
limpopo
23 August, 2018 12:29
Plus one Charlie

aapierre
aidanb
23 August, 2018 12:48
Storm in a tea cup for me.

He's still a citizen of the UK and thus subject to it's laws. He broke them, he coughed to them and has been punished appropriately.

But

Would a mimimum wage lad in North Tyneside be getting a £2k fine for resisting arrest and common assault

Before the howls of derision, I am not condoning what he did but it certainly doesn't need the piano wire handed out.

stillamaccafan
stillamaccafan
23 August, 2018 16:52
Whatever the outcome its good to see Danny showing a bit of 'wisdom' and turning up in one of Norman's old jackets.

forensicpsych
forensicpsych
23 August, 2018 17:17
steve1888 - he pleaded guilty, video evidence from the doorman was provided, he has been found at guilty by his club and the RFU...how much more can you expect? The point about minimum wage North Tyneside lad...2k to Cips is most likely not far off what that lad could expect in ratio....and he wouldn’t be an England role model.

So at the Saracens game, I shall arrive well served, demand that my mates outside are also let in, grab my drinks from the bar and head outside of the ground with them, in the process I shall remonstrate with the ticket checkers, resist expulsion and in doing so assault one of the security staff (regardless of gender)and cause them injury - not to mention the cost to the public purse of processing my arrest and court appearance. I shall anticipate support on this forum as clearly it will be the clubs fault for encouraging me to attend the game, offering me the opportunity to buy alcohol and not allocating me a chaperone. It will be considered a ‘storm in a tea cup’, in no way question my suitability to own a season ticket and in fact warrant my free entry to the corporate entertainment for the remainder of the season (although my dress sense will probablY still be better than mega bucks Cips)....just checking.

Nuff said from me on this I think. Love this forum btw.

lebigmac69
Andy Mac
23 August, 2018 20:00
Forensicpsych- quick question - do you think political correctness has gone mad?

matt1il
matt1il
23 August, 2018 21:11
And to bring another disciplinary story in (but this one linked to Falcons/Rugby) Ashton is banned for 7 weeks which means he's banned for our visit to Sale.

6 weeks for tip tackle. 1 week for previous behaviour.

forensicpsych
forensicpsych
23 August, 2018 22:03
Andy Mac - sometimes yes I do. Never an all encompassing answer - depends on the issue. But i do at times dispair of the perceived need to appease all possible audiences in the quest to overly self promote and avoid negative appraisal. Was that a politically correct enough reply..smiling smiley?

aapierre
aidanb
24 August, 2018 10:09
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forensicpsych
..... The point about minimum wage North Tyneside lad...2k to Cips is most likely not far off what that lad could expect in ratio....and he wouldn’t be an England role model.
So at the Saracens game, I shall arrive well served, demand that my mates outside are also let in, grab my drinks from the bar and head outside of the ground with them, in the process I shall remonstrate with the ticket checkers, resist expulsion and in doing so assault one of the security staff (regardless of gender)and cause them injury - not to mention the cost to the public purse of processing my arrest and court appearance. I shall anticipate support on this forum as clearly it will be the clubs fault for encouraging me to attend the game, offering me the opportunity to buy alcohol and not allocating me a chaperone. It will be considered a ‘storm in a tea cup’, in no way question my suitability to own a season ticket and in fact warrant my free entry to the corporate entertainment for the remainder of the season (although my dress sense will probablY still be better than mega bucks Cips)....just checking.

Nuff said from me on this I think. Love this forum btw.

It would have been the same law he broke and not a more expensive one.

At no point has anyone said he shouldn't be punished but it certainly doesn't need the piano wire treatment.

He behaved wrongly, was caught, tried and punished. That was my point, the rest of the willy waving to make sure he is forever castigated and never allowed to return to working life is a sheer disgrace in this situation.

aapierre
aidanb
24 August, 2018 10:25
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matt1il
And to bring another disciplinary story in (but this one linked to Falcons/Rugby) Ashton is banned for 7 weeks which means he's banned for our visit to Sale.
6 weeks for tip tackle. 1 week for previous behaviour.


is the extra week because someone in the RFU has it in for him. It reads to me like that ?

Gosforth
Gosforth
24 August, 2018 10:52
He’s 30 years old and it’s being suggested the club should have chaperoned him and his mates shouldn’t have led him astray. Give me a break. He’s a thug

aapierre
aidanb
24 August, 2018 11:40
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Gosforth
He’s 30 years old and it’s being suggested the club should have chaperoned him and his mates shouldn’t have led him astray. Give me a break. He’s a thug


So when I played rugby we had a lad who was a handful when the drink took over

We tried never to be around him for long nights out or made sure there were a couple of people on minder duty.

As already stated, if you know someone has a pre disposition to behave like a muppet when drunk then try not to help that behaviour along.

What is wrong with that concept ?

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