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Next match Next two matches
Friday 16 November v Harlequins at Twickenham Stoop, 7.45pm
Friday 23 November v Bath Rugby at Kingston Park, 7.45pm
Last result: Newcastle Falcons 22-7 Bath Rugby
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Newcastle Falcons team to play Saracens (Sunday, 3pm, Kingston Park Stadium)
15 Simon Hammersley
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Chris Harris
12 Josh Matavesi
11 Adam Radwan
10 Toby Flood
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Sami Mavinga
2 George McGuigan
3 Logovi'i Mulipola
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Callum Chick
Replacements
16 Santiago Socino
17 Adam Brocklebank
18 Jack Payne
19 Tevita Cavubati
20 Gary Graham
21 Sam Stuart
22 Joel Hodgson
23 Alex Tait
Referee: Ian Tempest
15 Simon Hammersley
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Chris Harris
12 Josh Matavesi
11 Adam Radwan
10 Toby Flood
9 Sonatane Takulua
1 Sami Mavinga
2 George McGuigan
3 Logovi'i Mulipola
4 Calum Green
5 Will Witty
6 Mark Wilson
7 Will Welch (captain)
8 Callum Chick
Replacements
16 Santiago Socino
17 Adam Brocklebank
18 Jack Payne
19 Tevita Cavubati
20 Gary Graham
21 Sam Stuart
22 Joel Hodgson
23 Alex Tait
Referee: Ian Tempest
I like it!
A lot of pressure on the replacement props with no Lockwood Wilson or Welsh fit
Good balance within the XV
No Sinoti is a surprise though
A lot of pressure on the replacement props with no Lockwood Wilson or Welsh fit
Good balance within the XV
No Sinoti is a surprise though
Saracens
FORWARDS: Mako Vunipola (144), Jamie George (196), Vincent Koch (39), Maro Itoje (94), Will Skelton (25), Mike Rhodes (69), Ben Earl (16), Jackson Wray (201).
BACKS: Ben Spencer (132), Owen Farrell (174), Sean Maitland (42), Brad Barritt (223), Alex Lozowski (60), David Strettle (138), Alex Goode (261).
REPLACEMENTS: Christopher Tolofua (17), Richard Barrington (136), Juan Figallo (90), Nick Isiekwe (35), Sione Vailanu (4), Richard Wigglesworth (210), Nick Tompkins (69), Alex Lewington (0).
FORWARDS: Mako Vunipola (144), Jamie George (196), Vincent Koch (39), Maro Itoje (94), Will Skelton (25), Mike Rhodes (69), Ben Earl (16), Jackson Wray (201).
BACKS: Ben Spencer (132), Owen Farrell (174), Sean Maitland (42), Brad Barritt (223), Alex Lozowski (60), David Strettle (138), Alex Goode (261).
REPLACEMENTS: Christopher Tolofua (17), Richard Barrington (136), Juan Figallo (90), Nick Isiekwe (35), Sione Vailanu (4), Richard Wigglesworth (210), Nick Tompkins (69), Alex Lewington (0).
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Saracens
FORWARDS: Mako Vunipola (144), Jamie George (196), Vincent Koch (39), Maro Itoje (94), Will Skelton (25), Mike Rhodes (69), Ben Earl (16), Jackson Wray (201).
BACKS: Ben Spencer (132), Owen Farrell (174), Sean Maitland (42), Brad Barritt (223), Alex Lozowski (60), David Strettle (138), Alex Goode (261).
REPLACEMENTS: Christopher Tolofua (17), Richard Barrington (136), Juan Figallo (90), Nick Isiekwe (35), Sione Vailanu (4), Richard Wigglesworth (210), Nick Tompkins (69), Alex Lewington (0).
That 23 is crazy and still has players missing
Will be a tough game, so good to have the rugby season starting again. 
Pretty much as expected for us.
I still prefer Alex Tait to Hammersley and the jury is still very much out on Mavinga.
Is Burrows the no.8 injured?
I still prefer Alex Tait to Hammersley and the jury is still very much out on Mavinga.
Is Burrows the no.8 injured?
Will be pleased to get anything out of this one, Saracens are a difficult team to play against and would be delighted if we win.
Don’t agree with some of the selections, I would have Tait and Graham in, but it’s only Richards’ opinion that matters and we must have some injuries which have affected selection.
Excited and looking forward to it!
Don’t agree with some of the selections, I would have Tait and Graham in, but it’s only Richards’ opinion that matters and we must have some injuries which have affected selection.
Excited and looking forward to it!
Well my head is saying I would be happy with a point but my heart is hoping for 4.
Find the McGuigan selection starange. Would have thought santi would have started with copper injured. And Logo is gonna have to put in a hard shift in the scrum on Sunday (that sarries tight 5 could match any in the world)
Find the McGuigan selection starange. Would have thought santi would have started with copper injured. And Logo is gonna have to put in a hard shift in the scrum on Sunday (that sarries tight 5 could match any in the world)
Quck ball and speed, speed, speed. Simples!
This is the best time to play a strong team like Sarries. We're the home team and we should go with the mentality to win the game regardless of who the opposition are.
We have to concentrate on what we have to do to win the game. Start worrying about them and we give them the psychological edge.
Would've linked to see Gary Graham and Tait starting but then again I'm not Dean.
Otherwise good side all things considered. Let's not forget we had a number of injuries last season and the lads who came in just did their jobs. We can do it.
We have to concentrate on what we have to do to win the game. Start worrying about them and we give them the psychological edge.
Would've linked to see Gary Graham and Tait starting but then again I'm not Dean.
Otherwise good side all things considered. Let's not forget we had a number of injuries last season and the lads who came in just did their jobs. We can do it.
Decent team, looking forward to seeing Radwan in the Premiership. Logo is going to have to have a big game with our front row weakened. That is some Saracens team, on one hand I'm looking forward to watching them, on the other the Falcons will have to be at their very best to get anything!
[quote Falcons_Thunder]Well my head is saying I would be happy with a point but my heart is hoping for 4.
Be bold. Let's settle for 5. Well, a man can dream.
Be bold. Let's settle for 5. Well, a man can dream.
Looking forward to this game on Sunday. Looks like you have a strong team and it should be a good game. All the best and hope you have a great season to back up the last one.
Any of,the injured lads close to returning?
That’s one almighty powerful Saracens forward pack that would give most international teams forwards a hard time and the backline not too shabby either therefore can only hope Fallcons catch them in an early season not quite up to speed game. It’s going to be a relentless season with the champions cup thrown into the equation and to get another top 4 place extremely difficult in fact a top 6 for me would be a real achievement but can’t wait.
Disappointing but we are playing the champions on a plus side the scrum looked very strong, when we get welsh and cooper back we could have a dominant scrum. I think we still need a creative centre. Tigers next week will be a hard game made harder by them being embarrassed by Exeter
Gutted to not get anything from the game after matching the Champions for much of the game.
Some real positive signs though and we were very unlucky with Saracens just able to turn it on at vital moments.
Scrum (with the starters) went well and the lineout too. Pack held up well against a superb Sarries outfit and Radwan didn't look out of place.
Not sure Chick is suited to that 8 role, but it's early days. We should be there or there abouts if we improve on today's performance.
Some real positive signs though and we were very unlucky with Saracens just able to turn it on at vital moments.
Scrum (with the starters) went well and the lineout too. Pack held up well against a superb Sarries outfit and Radwan didn't look out of place.
Not sure Chick is suited to that 8 role, but it's early days. We should be there or there abouts if we improve on today's performance.
Argh!!! How didn’t we get something out of that game!?
At 21-22 with 2 sin bins we should have seized control, created momentum and got some points. Why didn’t we bring all of the replacements on as soon as they went down to 13? The likes of Mulipola, Takelua, Flood were all out on their feet and we needed fresh legs.
I thought that the officials may have been including in Sarries over inflated salary cap based on his performance today.
Both sides were no where near at their best and we can definitely improve.
There were still some positives. McGuigan was my man of the match, fantastic game. All action, completed all lines including a few specials. He never stopped. Chick played well too, made some good runs, crucial turnover on our line.
At 21-22 with 2 sin bins we should have seized control, created momentum and got some points. Why didn’t we bring all of the replacements on as soon as they went down to 13? The likes of Mulipola, Takelua, Flood were all out on their feet and we needed fresh legs.
I thought that the officials may have been including in Sarries over inflated salary cap based on his performance today.
Both sides were no where near at their best and we can definitely improve.
There were still some positives. McGuigan was my man of the match, fantastic game. All action, completed all lines including a few specials. He never stopped. Chick played well too, made some good runs, crucial turnover on our line.
Oh and also agree on the scrum. I’ve been a big critic in the past but much improved today. Although we were deemed to wheel, we were actually pushing Saracens back for their own scrum and managed to get a penalty against them.
Agree Norfolk. Credit were credit is due, the first choice front row held up really well against a well oiled Sarries scrum. Big step down in the quality of the benches and it showed, hopefully we'll get Welsh and Lockwood back soon.
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Even though I am on holiday I was still following the game, was always going to be a tough ask no easy games in this league.
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Argh!!! How didn’t we get something out of that game!?
At 21-22 with 2 sin bins we should have seized control, created momentum and got some points. Why didn’t we bring all of the replacements on as soon as they went down to 13? The likes of Mulipola, Takelua, Flood were all out on their feet and we needed fresh legs.
I thought that the officials may have been including in Sarries over inflated salary cap based on his performance today.
Both sides were no where near at their best and we can definitely improve.
There were still some positives. McGuigan was my man of the match, fantastic game. All action, completed all lines including a few specials. He never stopped. Chick played well too, made some good runs, crucial turnover on our line.
Think with respect that comment about over inflated salary cap is uncalled for- in same way that we have very few South Africans- it smacks of sour grapes and spoils your argument. it could have gone either way when it was 21-22 but overall we showed great composure. Think it was an unfair that you didn't get a deserved bonus point and I don't think many teams will come away with 5 points at your home. it was a very tough game and we showed more resilience - Best of luck for the future and I am sure you will end up in the top six
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A frustrating performance but there was plenty to be happy about in there
The Tompkins yellow should have been a red (he socred the winning try?) Contact to the face is a red card, Itoje gets away with all sorts.
I can’t comment on the Goneva try as I haven’t seen the full picture again
Sarries are champions for a reason, the play on the line and know how to grind out the results when the going is tough, credit to them
The scrum was a big improvement today and there’s plenty to comeback into the squad yet
The Tompkins yellow should have been a red (he socred the winning try?) Contact to the face is a red card, Itoje gets away with all sorts.
I can’t comment on the Goneva try as I haven’t seen the full picture again
Sarries are champions for a reason, the play on the line and know how to grind out the results when the going is tough, credit to them
The scrum was a big improvement today and there’s plenty to comeback into the squad yet
Going off what the ref said in his chat with the TMO, the initial contact (and thus the impact and contact with the actual elbow) was at the base of the neck and it then ran upwards.
That backs with my own (admittedly red & black-shaded!) viewpoint.
I don't think Goneva was breaking the law in any way (I think the grumbling by my team that it's so against the game's values as to be a foul is a bit off). I would say that since the ref can only judge off what he sees, if your dummy prevents everyone from seeing then obviously he'll blow the whistle.
That notwithstanding, Goneva was once again a great player - I'm a big fan of Sarrie's wingers, but I'd love to have him ourselves.
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That backs with my own (admittedly red & black-shaded!) viewpoint.
I don't think Goneva was breaking the law in any way (I think the grumbling by my team that it's so against the game's values as to be a foul is a bit off). I would say that since the ref can only judge off what he sees, if your dummy prevents everyone from seeing then obviously he'll blow the whistle.
That notwithstanding, Goneva was once again a great player - I'm a big fan of Sarrie's wingers, but I'd love to have him ourselves.
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Sorry but I thought we gave that one to Saracens with an absolutely toothless, unimaginative attacking game .
We had lots of possession and were utterly unintelligent in attack.
We had lots of possession and were utterly unintelligent in attack.
Deserved a losing bonus point at least. Niki's slight of hand/foot was brilliant - perhaps too good, but surely no different than feigning a pass? Ref totally wrong saying it was against the spirit of the game. A lot to be optimistic about.
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Going off what the ref said in his chat with the TMO, the initial contact (and thus the impact and contact with the actual elbow) was at the base of the neck and it then ran upwards.
That backs with my own (admittedly red & black-shaded!) viewpoint.
I don't think Goneva was breaking the law in any way (I think the grumbling by my team that it's so against the game's values as to be a foul is a bit off). I would say that since the ref can only judge off what he sees, if your dummy prevents everyone from seeing then obviously he'll blow the whistle.
That notwithstanding, Goneva was once again a great player - I'm a big fan of Sarrie's wingers, but I'd love to have him ourselves.
I am not sure the laws allow for an elbow to the neck. It should have been a red card. I have spoken to a Saracens fan in the pub post match, he was a great fella, he to said it was a red card offence
Quite surprised that there hasn't been much said about the refs decision to haul Goneva back following Farrells botched drop goal
I was in touch with a mate watching it on BT Sport and he said Goneva clearly placed the ball on his foot rather than the ground
For me the ref made a blooper that cost 7 points
I was in touch with a mate watching it on BT Sport and he said Goneva clearly placed the ball on his foot rather than the ground
For me the ref made a blooper that cost 7 points
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Sorry but I thought we gave that one to Saracens with an absolutely toothless, unimaginative attacking game .
We had lots of possession and were utterly unintelligent in attack.
so taking the above how would you improve it? against one of the outstanding defensive units in European rugby?
from my viewpoint behind the posts in s stand. sarries offered very few holes and covered kicks well.
just asking to see what you do to fix it
Forward pass for penultimate Sarries try?
We didn’t create a whole lot in attack but were suffocated by Saracens’ defence and their physicality.
You need to be error-free to get anything from Saracens. We made mistakes and they punished us with points.
Lots of heart and endeavour by us but Saracens were better, but not by much.
We will be ok this season and look forward to some winning performances.
You need to be error-free to get anything from Saracens. We made mistakes and they punished us with points.
Lots of heart and endeavour by us but Saracens were better, but not by much.
We will be ok this season and look forward to some winning performances.
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Quite surprised that there hasn't been much said about the refs decision to haul Goneva back following Farrells botched drop goal
I was in touch with a mate watching it on BT Sport and he said Goneva clearly placed the ball on his foot rather than the ground
For me the ref made a blooper that cost 7 points
I have no gripe about the "dummy touchdown" but I don't think you can really blame the ref, Goneva was so good at it that he fooled the ref, who then called 22, once that is done can't let play go on.... perhaps too smart but I do like the audacity of it
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Indeed! I thought while hearing it (and again while typing it) that an elbow in the neck sounded just as unpleasant, just repeating what Tempest said!
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Would’ve had no gripes if Goneva scored but it’s hard to blame the ref as the deception was so good it fooled him and given I don’t think anyone has ever tried it before he’d hardly be on the lookout for it. Maybe your captain should have talked to the ref before the game to ask for ‘clarification’ over whether it’s allowed so at least he’d have been aware
Calls for why shouldn’t the TMO have been brought in (elsewhere, not here) are also a bit silly as the ref clearly blew his whistle, very early on, and you can’t blame him for that. Once that happens then that’s that.
I did think Tompkins was very lucky not to get a red, but maybe also Goneva lucky not to get a yellow for charging into the ruck after the whistle had blown. Yes it hit his bum but still really bad and could still cause some damage, especially as that’s where a lot of forwards brains are located
Calls for why shouldn’t the TMO have been brought in (elsewhere, not here) are also a bit silly as the ref clearly blew his whistle, very early on, and you can’t blame him for that. Once that happens then that’s that.
I did think Tompkins was very lucky not to get a red, but maybe also Goneva lucky not to get a yellow for charging into the ruck after the whistle had blown. Yes it hit his bum but still really bad and could still cause some damage, especially as that’s where a lot of forwards brains are located
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I did think Tompkins was very lucky not to get a red, but maybe also Goneva lucky not to get a yellow for charging into the ruck after the whistle had blown. Yes it hit his bum but still really bad and could still cause some damage, especially as that’s where a lot of forwards brains are located
admittedly I have only had a chance to see it once on the big screen in the ground but I thought he made the decision to go in a split second after the ref whistled and it could be suggested he was already committed to a clear out which would have been legal.
1. I am pleasrd tompkins didn't receive a red. Its not basketball and i think we need to be sensible. Yellow correct.
2. Ref was terrible and we didn't get anythinf from him. They were repeatedly dangerous at the contact area and he only penalised them once
3. Their kicking game won the game
4. Mcguigs a revelation.
5. Chick was excellent
6. George try soft and if we had kicked the ball off the park at 10 9 and gone in at that score what a difference. Thier first try also lucky from a defensive rip.
7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
8. Mark wilson a test match player. First class.
9. I really hope mulipola is ok
10. Front row first class and yes, rhe scrum was FANTASTIC
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2. Ref was terrible and we didn't get anythinf from him. They were repeatedly dangerous at the contact area and he only penalised them once
3. Their kicking game won the game
4. Mcguigs a revelation.
5. Chick was excellent
6. George try soft and if we had kicked the ball off the park at 10 9 and gone in at that score what a difference. Thier first try also lucky from a defensive rip.
7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
8. Mark wilson a test match player. First class.
9. I really hope mulipola is ok
10. Front row first class and yes, rhe scrum was FANTASTIC
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Don't worry, you've got an easy game next week.
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Don't worry, you've got an easy game next week.
Who's worried ? We won last time we were down there mate! Haha
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Did I miss Mulipola going off for an injury? Just thought he was taken off for tiredness? They didn’t mention it on BT.
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7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
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Which is also known as the batsman cheating and trying to steal runs
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1. I am pleasrd tompkins didn't receive a red. Its not basketball and i think we need to be sensible. Yellow correct.
2. Ref was terrible and we didn't get anythinf from him. They were repeatedly dangerous at the contact area and he only penalised them once
3. Their kicking game won the game
4. Mcguigs a revelation.
5. Chick was excellent
6. George try soft and if we had kicked the ball off the park at 10 9 and gone in at that score what a difference. Thier first try also lucky from a defensive rip.
7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
8. Mark wilson a test match player. First class.
9. I really hope mulipola is ok
10. Front row first class and yes, rhe scrum was FANTASTIC
Aren’t points one and two a contradiction? Is an elbow to the face not dangerous enough?
Definitely forward pass for penultimate try. Wind may have partially caused it but it was caught at least 3 yards in front of the passer. Thought there was also another forward pass before their second try; short offload in front of West Stand.
Overall I thought we were much better than I expected and McGuigan was excellent as were rest of front row. Referee made 2 or 3 decisions that he then reversed which summed up his performance.
Overall I thought we were much better than I expected and McGuigan was excellent as were rest of front row. Referee made 2 or 3 decisions that he then reversed which summed up his performance.
Thought we played really well today and deserved to get something out of the game.
Just to add something which most of you will have missed....in the second half Brad Barritt
took a swig of water and threw the part empty bottle from the pitch,it headed towards us and crashed into the advertising boards.
Brad apologised at the time but more than that, he came over at the final whistle, apologised again and shook hands.
Just left feeling what a top bloke he is and demonstrates what a great game we follow, full of real sportsmen.
Thanks Brad.
Just to add something which most of you will have missed....in the second half Brad Barritt
took a swig of water and threw the part empty bottle from the pitch,it headed towards us and crashed into the advertising boards.
Brad apologised at the time but more than that, he came over at the final whistle, apologised again and shook hands.
Just left feeling what a top bloke he is and demonstrates what a great game we follow, full of real sportsmen.
Thanks Brad.
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Sorry but I thought we gave that one to Saracens with an absolutely toothless, unimaginative attacking game .
We had lots of possession and were utterly unintelligent in attack.
so taking the above how would you improve it? against one of the outstanding defensive units in European rugby?
from my viewpoint behind the posts in s stand. sarries offered very few holes and covered kicks well.
just asking to see what you do to fix it
Well for one...I lost count how many times players took the ball standing still.
Often, Sarries defence was flat and right up and there was acres of space in behind. Where was the little chip over with players running through?
Once you start that you make Saracens defend slightly different to react to it.
Toby flood should have been looking at things liked that. The wind was in our favour in the first half. Why didnt flood put the ball in the north / east corner using the wind. Keep them pinned down there for a bit.
Also ..the pack. Once or twice they went to a basic pick and drive mode and they made huge ground that sucked in their forwards. Why didn't we try that more. Wilson scored a try with that very thing..straight through a ruck. They had so few defending all game it should have been tried more.
Rugby is about physicality and intelligence and I just don't think we showed much today.
That wasnt a great Saracens performance and I was frustrated as we could easily have beaten them. Many around me in the stands felt the same.
I just hope they look to fix it next week..as it was very similar to Edinburgh last week.
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It was interesting to see Ian Tempest live up to the true spirit of the game today.
He has been clearly influenced by the Memorial plaque to William Webb Ellis at Rugby school who, according to the inscription "...with a fine disregard to the rules..." created the game. Normally it is the players who continue this tradition, now that we have a referee so determined to do so too, will he start a trend?
He has been clearly influenced by the Memorial plaque to William Webb Ellis at Rugby school who, according to the inscription "...with a fine disregard to the rules..." created the game. Normally it is the players who continue this tradition, now that we have a referee so determined to do so too, will he start a trend?
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I felt the same way as Geordie Falcon - you know Sarries are very strong defensively but there was space in behind and we didn't try to exploit it. A chip or grubber for Radwan to chase would have given him more chance than running him into two-man tackles.
End of the first half there was a load of space behind we could have kicked down to the corner and asked them to play out from there for the last two minutes.
I thought we were one dimensional and lacking in ideas in attack - it was like the Gloucester game last year.
End of the first half there was a load of space behind we could have kicked down to the corner and asked them to play out from there for the last two minutes.
I thought we were one dimensional and lacking in ideas in attack - it was like the Gloucester game last year.
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Would’ve had no gripes if Goneva scored but it’s hard to blame the ref as the deception was so good it fooled him and given I don’t think anyone has ever tried it before he’d hardly be on the lookout for it. Maybe your captain should have talked to the ref before the game to ask for ‘clarification’ over whether it’s allowed so at least he’d have been aware
Calls for why shouldn’t the TMO have been brought in (elsewhere, not here) are also a bit silly as the ref clearly blew his whistle, very early on, and you can’t blame him for that. Once that happens then that’s that.
I did think Tompkins was very lucky not to get a red, but maybe also Goneva lucky not to get a yellow for charging into the ruck after the whistle had blown. Yes it hit his bum but still really bad and could still cause some damage, especially as that’s where a lot of forwards brains are located
I do blame the ref for making a very basic mistake and then covering it up with an accusation against one of our players.
We all know the TMO is there and can be used. He should not have blown his whistle but should have let the play develop. He could then come back and ask if that ball was grounded or dummied. The dummy is allowed in rugby as is the concept of advantage / play on
Tempest had a very poor game all round yesterday.
Thought we again showed a lot of the never-say-die spirit and talent that took us so far last season and gave Sarries a tougher time than they will get in many places.
I also thought we missed the wise old heads of Vickers and Hoggie towards the end and would be very happy if we signed a battle scarred No.8 to see us through the final minutes of coming close encounters
I also thought we missed the wise old heads of Vickers and Hoggie towards the end and would be very happy if we signed a battle scarred No.8 to see us through the final minutes of coming close encounters
Thought we again showed a lot of the never-say-die spirit and talent that took us so far last season and gave Sarries a tougher time than they will get in many places.
I also thought we missed the wise old heads of Vickers and Hoggie towards the end and would be very happy if we signed a battle scarred No.8 to see us through the final minutes of coming close encounters
I also thought we missed the wise old heads of Vickers and Hoggie towards the end and would be very happy if we signed a battle scarred No.8 to see us through the final minutes of coming close encounters
I left KP pretty chuffed that we stood up well to a very tough opposition.
Well I enjoyed the game but not the result of course.
IMO the pack fronted up well, with huge shifts from the front row and George Mc, who was my MOM, along with Wilson and Welch.Welch also topped the tackling stats of 17 against the nearest other,who was "eat me I am chocolate" Itoje on 14.
Puzzling why Sinotti was not in the squad,as we really need his strength and running power.
I know one incident does not cost you the game but the Flood missed penalty, which was his easiest of them all would have at a crucial time brought us to within one point. The crowd would have been up even more,after that superb try from Mark and I am sure would have lifted the players again.
The miss was deflating to both crowd and team and they then KO and go score a try. However I thought Flood kicked well and did not have bad game,apart from that miss tbh. But hey ho that's rugby. He is still a class act and put in a good shift.
Having watched the match again on BT,I loved it when Welch went for the corner when pundits were saying take the 3 points on offer.We then go from the lineout and score a try.
.Love it when you back your players .Nice one Captain.
Great atmosphere and bums on seats material was that.
Super shift from everyone involved and that's what the fans want to see.
IMO the pack fronted up well, with huge shifts from the front row and George Mc, who was my MOM, along with Wilson and Welch.Welch also topped the tackling stats of 17 against the nearest other,who was "eat me I am chocolate" Itoje on 14.
Puzzling why Sinotti was not in the squad,as we really need his strength and running power.
I know one incident does not cost you the game but the Flood missed penalty, which was his easiest of them all would have at a crucial time brought us to within one point. The crowd would have been up even more,after that superb try from Mark and I am sure would have lifted the players again.
The miss was deflating to both crowd and team and they then KO and go score a try. However I thought Flood kicked well and did not have bad game,apart from that miss tbh. But hey ho that's rugby. He is still a class act and put in a good shift.
Having watched the match again on BT,I loved it when Welch went for the corner when pundits were saying take the 3 points on offer.We then go from the lineout and score a try.
.Love it when you back your players .Nice one Captain.
Great atmosphere and bums on seats material was that.
Super shift from everyone involved and that's what the fans want to see.
Biggest issue in the try that pretty much settled the game was the blatant knock-on by Wigglesworth right in front of Tempest which he claimed went backwards. That was before the very questionable final pass.
Surprised no-one has mentioned Mavinga who had the better of Koch and Figallo. Think we left Mulipola on 15m too long and lost momentum at the scrum last part of the game.
Surprised no-one has mentioned Mavinga who had the better of Koch and Figallo. Think we left Mulipola on 15m too long and lost momentum at the scrum last part of the game.
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Biggest issue in the try that pretty much settled the game was the blatant knock-on by Wigglesworth right in front of Tempest which he claimed went backwards. That was before the very questionable final pass.
Surprised no-one has mentioned Mavinga who had the better of Koch and Figallo. Think we left Mulipola on 15m too long and lost momentum at the scrum last part of the game.
Just heard about this knock on watching BBC Look North. When it’s not your day it’s not your day
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7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
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Which is also known as the batsman cheating and trying to steal runs
Well, its not is it? D
Don't think so. There's a difference between people making nasty and deliberate late hits at contactzone and a young kid accidentally making contact with the head. Just my opinion, falc.
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1. I am pleasrd tompkins didn't receive a red. Its not basketball and i think we need to be sensible. Yellow correct.
2. Ref was terrible and we didn't get anythinf from him. They were repeatedly dangerous at the contact area and he only penalised them once
3. Their kicking game won the game
4. Mcguigs a revelation.
5. Chick was excellent
6. George try soft and if we had kicked the ball off the park at 10 9 and gone in at that score what a difference. Thier first try also lucky from a defensive rip.
7. Goneva dummy interesting but think it raises some questions about "spirit of the game" if he gets away with it. Its a little like a bowler whipping the bails off when the batsman is backing up in cricket!
8. Mark wilson a test match player. First class.
9. I really hope mulipola is ok
10. Front row first class and yes, rhe scrum was FANTASTIC
Aren’t points one and two a contradiction? Is an elbow to the face not dangerous enough?
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It was interesting to see Ian Tempest live up to the true spirit of the game today.
He has been clearly influenced by the Memorial plaque to William Webb Ellis at Rugby school who, according to the inscription "...with a fine disregard to the rules..." created the game. Normally it is the players who continue this tradition, now that we have a referee so determined to do so too, will he start a trend?
Hahaa an excellent point!
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