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Gary Graham
Falc Dancer (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 09:10
Gary has been called up to the Scotland squad
Congratulations to Gary
A strange situation as he was called up by England last year

 
Re: Gary Graham
nursepete (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 09:43
Bet his Dad is made up - well done Gary, well deserved

 
Re: Gary Graham
Cantabrian (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 10:37
Congatulations to Gary. Sense has prevailed and it will seem much more fitting and enjoyable, given his famous ancestry, to watch him when he takes the international field in Scottish colours.

 
Re: Gary Graham
GeordieFalcon (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 12:05
Congrats Gary.

We've got quite a Scottish group now ..

1
2
3 Jon Welsh
4 Glen Young
5 Andrew Davidson
6 Guy Graham (coming through)
7 Jon Hardie
8 Gary Graham

9 Rauri Dawson
10
11
12 Williams (is EQ/SQ)
13 Harris
14
15

 
Re: Gary Graham
Bedlington Lad (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 16:28
Looking forward to him getting on the pitch

 
Re: Gary Graham
Osric (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 16:47
Really pleased for him and for the family. Well done Gary.

 
Re: Gary Graham
A tramp abroad (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 16:57
Yes well done and congratulations Gary.

Good that we signed John Hardie.

 
Re: Gary Graham
markismith50 (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 17:39
Glen is EQP, and Andrew almost is,

Cheers, Smithy

 
Re: Gary Graham
Exiled Falcon (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 18:17
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markismith50
Glen is EQP, and Andrew almost is,
Cheers, Smithy

Does this not make a mockery of the EQ payments? Both of these fine fellows are undoubtably Scottish and as they should, will be aiming to play for Scotland.

Re Gary G, at the risk of making myself incredibly unpopular, this basically encapsulates why international rugby is a borderline sham. So last year he was pictured in an England top waxing lyrical about playing for England. Roll on a few months and we have similar stuff about playing for Scotland. It gets a little shambolic when you can pick and choose who you represent.

And before I get leapt on, yes he is Scottish and shouldnít have been available for England in the first place. Similarly, itís ridiculous Sam Skinner should be available for Scotland only a few years after playing for England under 20s.

International rugby is almost a contradiction in terms now.

 
Re: Gary Graham
davietoon (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 18:20
Don t blame him, Eddie Jones would never pick 2 Falcons.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Exiled Falcon (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 18:28
Who would you not have excluded Davie, to get GG in?

 
Re: Gary Graham
DB23 (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 19:38
This may be contentious but I find this bizarre.
GG was happy to join up with England training squads but is now ĎScottish through and throughí.
Whichever it is, youíre either English or Scottish when you start out surely?
Hey ho, as long as he plays well for the Falcons I donít really care.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Wensleydale Falcon (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 19:54
Iím sure his Falcons teammates will get stuck into him about this....he will get some serious banter over the coming weeks...of that Iím certain!!!

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 21:21
Is it not possible that someone might feel loyalty and passion for more than one country?

 
Re: Gary Graham
Kwa444 (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 21:45
If you had a Scottish mother and English father (or vice versa) you could feel drawn to both and be eligible for both.

The cynic in me wonders if Scotland would actually have considered him if it weren't for the sojourn with England. That's not to say they shouldn't mind you....

As to players who are EQP - never heard many more Leicester an accent than James (Jim) Hamilton, and I believe it unlikely if England had called that he wouldn't have gone North.

It's not a new issue - Jamie Salmon, ex English public school boy and England player, also played for the All Blacks. I think it was in the 70's but it was before my time!

 
Re: Gary Graham
aidanb (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 22:17
Gary is obviously Scottish and English qualified.

In one statement today he said he was asked by England and went because Scotland showed no interest in him since his under 20 days. Why would you not take an opportunity offered if you think it is the only one available to you?

He didn't get past the training ground with England so should he then park his ambitions and only play club rugby?

He made decisions based on the set of facts facing him at the time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing thrown around at times.


and in any case surely everyone would want to play for England ?(Sm115)

 
Re: Gary Graham
Osric (IP Logged)
12 November, 2018 23:02
I have a Scottish mother and an English father. I support Scotland but would also want England to win against most teams (definitely the SH ones). If selected, I'd happily play tiddlywinks for either. If I was selected for a training camp, got broken and then ignored I'd happily switch if the offer came. GG has done nothing wrong.
That said, both sides have riches across the back row so getting a starting berth will not be easy.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Kwa444 (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 06:37
Not often the back row of both have been so competitive. It's a nice change.

Interestingly if you look at an open forum it seems to be Scots who are more upset with him than the English.

From an English perspective, I can understand EJ wanting to look at all options but I do find it sad that we have Shields and Rhodes (and Hughes when fit) in the squad and home grown products are missing out.

I am not wholly certain that they are necessarily better either, just that they have been coached/brought on more effectively in their youth.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Rafpilot2000 (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 07:25
Who would turn down the opportunity to play or train at a national level? Obviously you would take th first one to come knocking , and one may well have raised his profile to put him on the radar of the other.
Then you need to be realistic and look at those who you would be competing with and the chances of making a first team shirt yours.
Great to see another Falcon playing internationally and could t be happier for the lad!

 
Re: Gary Graham
nursepete (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 07:53
i think the excitement of playing international rugby is massive, no matter who it is you are representing especially for someone like GG who was born in Scotland and raised in England by Scottish parents. One thing is for certain, there will be abit of banter flying around but once that settles, the squad I am sure will just get on with it.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Horus (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 12:05
I bet Gary now regrets his comments after he joined the England training squad: 'I'd f**ing love to play against Scotland make 1000 tackles and shove it in their face.'

 
Re: Gary Graham
Osric (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 20:41
Iím sure Gary has got broad enough shoulders to deal with the banter. Itís great recognition for him but also for Deano and his ability to spot talent.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Falcons_Thunder (IP Logged)
13 November, 2018 20:59
This makes signing Hardie a seasoned international as cover even more important. Tho I think on talent Hardie could push hard for the no7 shirt

 
Re: Gary Graham
Bedlington Lad (IP Logged)
14 November, 2018 14:03
Hasn't been selected for the South Africa game so I hope he's raring to go against Quins

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
14 November, 2018 17:27
Harris drops to bench too.

 
Re: Gary Graham
alas (IP Logged)
14 November, 2018 18:15
He was on the bench last week as well. Played most of the second half.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
14 November, 2018 18:35
Oh right, I didn't see the game but thought when I read the team he was in the starting lineup.

 
Re: Gary Graham
dick g (IP Logged)
16 November, 2018 10:45
National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
16 November, 2018 12:33
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National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

 
Re: Gary Graham
dick g (IP Logged)
17 November, 2018 19:31
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National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

No. According to Judaic law, any ancestry in the female side makes you a Jew. You cannot be half, quarter or any other degree. This definition would have been enough for the @#$%& to send me to a camp. As a Jew, I have right of residence and nationality in Israel. I can, therefore, play rugby for them. But do they need a 72-year-old lock who last touched a ball more than half a century ago? Shalom.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
17 November, 2018 22:31
Clever.

 
Re: Gary Graham
aidanb (IP Logged)
18 November, 2018 15:19
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dick g
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dick g
National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

No. According to Judaic law, any ancestry in the female side makes you a Jew. You cannot be half, quarter or any other degree. This definition would have been enough for the @#$%& to send me to a camp. As a Jew, I have right of residence and nationality in Israel. I can, therefore, play rugby for them. But do they need a 72-year-old lock who last touched a ball more than half a century ago? Shalom.

if you last touched a ball 50 years ago and are 72 then you must have played in the forwards cos they never ever touched the ball in them days, they wee too busy kicking the b-jesus out of each other to bother with the ball

 
Re: Gary Graham
dick g (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 08:34
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aidanb
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dick g
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dick g
National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

No. According to Judaic law, any ancestry in the female side makes you a Jew. You cannot be half, quarter or any other degree. This definition would have been enough for the @#$%& to send me to a camp. As a Jew, I have right of residence and nationality in Israel. I can, therefore, play rugby for them. But do they need a 72-year-old lock who last touched a ball more than half a century ago? Shalom.

if you last touched a ball 50 years ago and are 72 then you must have played in the forwards cos they never ever touched the ball in them days, they wee too busy kicking the b-jesus out of each other to bother with the ball

Correct. My job was to trundle from set piece to set piece and get in the way of the backs as little as possible. Great days........

 
Re: Gary Graham
ballsout (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 12:28
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In February, Graham told the Daily Mail: ďEngland want to be No 1 in the world and Iím not sure Scotland will ever be anywhere near. Iíve grown up here so, yeah, I feel more English than Scottish.Ē However, after reversing his position, Graham today said: ďIím Scottish through-and-through but England asked me first as Iím eligible through residency.Ē

What a great chap. Scotland are welcome to him.

 
Re: Gary Graham
aidanb (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 12:53
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ballsout
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In February, Graham told the Daily Mail: ďEngland want to be No 1 in the world and Iím not sure Scotland will ever be anywhere near. Iíve grown up here so, yeah, I feel more English than Scottish.Ē However, after reversing his position, Graham today said: ďIím Scottish through-and-through but England asked me first as Iím eligible through residency.Ē

What a great chap. Scotland are welcome to him.

What's your address? I can see if I can get an extra delivery of lemons to you ASAP!

 
Re: Gary Graham
Monkey1 (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 13:54
Scotland will most certainly welcome him.

He was willing to give his best for England, just as he gives his best for Falcons, and just as he has given his best for every club that has welcomed him during his career so far. If he now gives his best for Scotland I will be more than happy to cheer him along.

Some people need to wake up about what rugby means as a career for these young men, terminating at a time in life when the rest of us would be expecting to settle down, just a few years to shine as brightly as they can.

Gary Graham has done nothing wrong here, has said nothing wrong here. Others would do well to emulate his professionalism.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Falcons_Thunder (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 14:43
Lesson of the day. Never talk to the media lol

 
Re: Gary Graham
dick g (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 17:11
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dick g
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dick g
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Leipziger
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dick g
National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

No. According to Judaic law, any ancestry in the female side makes you a Jew. You cannot be half, quarter or any other degree. This definition would have been enough for the @#$%& to send me to a camp. As a Jew, I have right of residence and nationality in Israel. I can, therefore, play rugby for them. But do they need a 72-year-old lock who last touched a ball more than half a century ago? Shalom.

if you last touched a ball 50 years ago and are 72 then you must have played in
the forwards cos they never ever touched the ball in them days, they wee too busy kicking the b-jesus out of each other to bother with the ball

Correct. My job was to trundle from set piece to set piece and get in the way of the backs as little as possible. Great days........

And why was the accepted short-form for the National Socialist German Workers' Party edited out of my earlier posting?

I can understand the logarithms clamping down on bad language, but this is a bit far. It is different than, for example, describing a ref as a @#$%&. Can some flexibility be programmed in?

 
Re: Gary Graham
Exiled Falcon (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 19:07
So you donít see anything wrong with these quotes Monkey?

 
Re: Gary Graham
Leipziger (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 20:10
Graham's quotes when called up by England might have been ill-advised, but I'm not losing any sleep over them, nor him wanting to play for Scotland. Good luck to him.

 
Re: Gary Graham
aidanb (IP Logged)
19 November, 2018 20:34
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dick g
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dick g
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aidanb
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dick g
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Leipziger
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dick g
National qualification is a farce. Because of my maternal great-great-great grandparents, I can qualify to play for Israel. And there is a team, currently ranked at 57. Nice blue strip, too.

I think it only goes as far back as grandparents.

No. According to Judaic law, any ancestry in the female side makes you a Jew. You cannot be half, quarter or any other degree. This definition would have been enough for the @#$%& to send me to a camp. As a Jew, I have right of residence and nationality in Israel. I can, therefore, play rugby for them. But do they need a 72-year-old lock who last touched a ball more than half a century ago? Shalom.

if you last touched a ball 50 years ago and are 72 then you must have played in
the forwards cos they never ever touched the ball in them days, they wee too busy kicking the b-jesus out of each other to bother with the ball

Correct. My job was to trundle from set piece to set piece and get in the way of the backs as little as possible. Great days........

And why was the accepted short-form for the National Socialist German Workers' Party edited out of my earlier posting?

I can understand the logarithms clamping down on bad language, but this is a bit far. It is different than, for example, describing a ref as a @#$%&. Can some flexibility be programmed in?

It seems a n a z i isnít allowed here.

Not down to me though

 
Re: Gary Graham
PedroFalcon (IP Logged)
21 November, 2018 12:09
Gary Graham and Chris Harris will hopefully both be available for us this weekend after not being named in the Scotland squad.

 
Re: Gary Graham
alas (IP Logged)
21 November, 2018 12:50
Could do with both, especially Harris given the midfield injuries.

 
Re: Gary Graham
NorfolkFalcon (IP Logged)
21 November, 2018 20:11
Yes we need both of them with the key injuries we have in both positions.

 
Re: Gary Graham
Falc Dancer (IP Logged)
22 November, 2018 08:35
I donít see Samoa or Tonga playing this weekend on the fixtures so maybe we will also have Logo and Tane back as well
Fiji have named Niki and Cavubati in their XV so they will be unavailable

 
Re: Gary Graham
pityacker (IP Logged)
22 November, 2018 09:30
Havn't seen Nemani Nagusa involved in any of the games so could he be available does anyone know ?

 
Re: Gary Graham
22 November, 2018 09:32
Injured

 
Re: Gary Graham
pityacker (IP Logged)
22 November, 2018 12:07
Nagusa starting tomorrow must be recovered from injury.


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