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Re: The man who would be wing
greenwood (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 08:48
Farrell Senior.
World Class......











.........Rugby League

 
Re: The man who would be wing
Vespulavulgaris (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 09:50
I grew up watching league and I was Andy Farrell's biggest fan when he decided to make the switch to Union. He has slowly but surely eroded all the respect I ever had for him ever since.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
greenwood (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 10:56
As I've said many times om this Forum before, when the game went open and all those players came to Union for those few months (Inga Connolly Paul Robinson Etc) Farrell was the one that was wanted but he never came across....And when he did it was a Bl00dy waste of time !!

Best convert at that time Gary Connolly (Harlequins) I thought.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/05/2015 11:59 by greenwood.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
Geewhiz50 (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 15:48
I feel these statements help explain some of the problems regarding selection for England - no comment on current form or ability:

a. Lancaster:
"It is a pretty unique situation," Lancaster said. "The only probable scenario I can equate it to is the way the Waratahs are playing Michael Hooper at the moment; he's playing almost as a hybrid centre. "You look at the way they're using him in their games recently, he's so powerful, so dynamic, he could play centre or back row. And Sam's probably in that position; I can't think of another player who's played club rugby at Premiership level in two different positions [forwards and backs]."

b. Farrell
"We have a very rigorous way of looking at all games and preparing everyone with the same brush, and Sam's performance in attack and defence at the breakdown compares with the best over the last few weeks," Farrell said. "How he plays as a player won't change as a 12 or as a six. We've seen the same running lines, the same big hits and the same ferocity in his collisions in both positions. But what we have seen is that when he started off at 12, he developed as a rugby union player."

The comments, of course, refer to Burgess and the logic behind his selection.

Further comments from Lancaster includes:

There is room in the squad for the odd bolter and 20-year-old Maro Itoje is emerging as one who could gatecrash the final 31-man squad. "He could be that wild card," Lancaster said. "I coached him when I coached England Under-17s so I coached him in 2010-11 so I know him reasonably well and his development has not surprised me.
"What has surprised me is his ability to deliver at the highest level in the big games. At Saracens, who put a lot of emphasis on rotational policy, he has gone in and he has played in the big games. And he has delivered."

 
Re: The man who would be wing
St Bruno (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 17:26
StevieWasp,
Didn't express myself properly. SL's time to start experimenting with new/young players was the day after he was appointed coach (2012?), not five minutes before the RWC!
Instead, what do we get? Ashton, Strettle, Goode, Wigglesworth, Dickson, Twelvetrees, Botha ad nauseum. (This is not a Saracens-bashing comment by the way, despite the Farrell Snr connections)
To my mind, Wade, Daly, Simmo, Slade, Slater at least should have had at least 6 England caps by now.
As mentioned above, SL won't be in the job for ever and the sooner he goes, the better in my view.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
ElliesBoss (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 18:24
He's not been picked because the England coaching team haven't got time to suppress his natural flair and do we need another hooker anyway?

 
Re: The man who would be wing
jonnydeane (IP Logged)
21 May, 2015 20:30
Do NZ ever pick a side to nullify threats the opposition might have??
Definitely not, they pick their strongest team stick to their goals and win. Annoys me so much when england pick so much in preparation for the opposition, looking at what players like wade can't do instead of what they can.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
matelot22 (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 10:55
I must admit, this is SL's last throw of the dice in my eyes. Nepotism, blind ignorance, who knows? But when most of the pundits have got Wade and SImmo in their team of the season and they don't even get a shot at the 50 man squad, you really have to start wondering.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
FishingWasp (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 11:55
Quote:
jonnydeane
Do NZ ever pick a side to nullify threats the opposition might have??
Definitely not, they pick their strongest team stick to their goals and win. Annoys me so much when england pick so much in preparation for the opposition, looking at what players like wade can't do instead of what they can.

Agreed: As I stated before, SL seems more intent on not losing (with conservative options), rather than going out to win, with exiting, imaginative players.

Didn't SL sign a long term contract extension recently? Little that the blazers in the RFU do surprises me any more!

 
Re: The man who would be wing
RossM (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 12:01
Didn't SL sign a long term contract extension recently? Little that the blazers in the RFU do surprises me any more!

I would expect (hope) there are break clauses.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
NotTheVicarage (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 12:23
Quote:
RossM
Didn't SL sign a long term contract extension recently? Little that the blazers in the RFU do surprises me any more!
I would expect (hope) there are break clauses.

6 year contract extension for Lancaster, Farrell, Rowntree and Catt in Oct last year. Haven't seen anything anywhere suggesting there are any break clauses.

 
Re: The man who would be wing
RossM (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 13:07
Well I did say 'hope' smiling smiley

 
Re: The man who would be wing
Trev's Big Tackle (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 15:55
I think Wade's best option for England recognition is to play rugby league for the summer then when he returns to Wasps in October he'll be a "League Convert" and be rushed into the England squad for the 6 nations!

 
Re: The man who would be wing
Lwasp (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 16:48
I wonder if Wade has been seriously harmed by rushing away from Argentina for the Lions call-up? Would he have played in the 2nd England test anyway or been rotated out?

 
Re: The man who would be wing
matelot22 (IP Logged)
22 May, 2015 19:31
Quote:
Trev's Big Tackle
I think Wade's best option for England recognition is to play rugby league for the summer then when he returns to Wasps in October he'll be a "League Convert" and be rushed into the England squad for the 6 nations!

We need a "like" button!

 
Re: The man who would be wing
coddy (IP Logged)
23 May, 2015 07:29
Quote:
matelot22
Quote:
Trev's Big Tackle
I think Wade's best option for England recognition is to play rugby league for the summer then when he returns to Wasps in October he'll be a "League Convert" and be rushed into the England squad for the 6 nations!

We need a "like" button!



I was thinking the very same thing. (Sm14)

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