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Squad for next season
Ozzy3213 (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 09:49
So here is where we are at in terms of next seasons squad, presuming that my sources are correct regarding all rumoured incomings.

Confirmed leavers
Jason Harris-Wright, Luke Narraway, Darren Allinson

Out of contract, no news
Gerard Ellis, Tom Court, Jerry Sexton, George Robson, Joe Trayfoot, Tevita Koloamatangi,
Matt Kouris, Austin Hay, Jack Cooke, Connor Murphy, Ross Neal, Jacob Atkins

Senior Squad
HK David Paice, Saia Fainga’aa, David Porecki, Todd Gleave
LH Gordon Reid, Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi, Tom Smallbone, Harry Elrington
TH Ben Franks, Petrus du Plessis, Lovejoy Chawatama, Ollie Hoskins, Richard Palframan
LK Seb de Chaves, Jim Hamilton, Josh McNally, Jebb Sinclair, Will Lloyd
FL Mike Coman, Blair Cowan, Max Northcote-Green, Conor Gilsenan, Jake Schatz
N8 Ofisa Treviranus, Lasha Lomidze, Senitiki Nayalo

SH Brendan McKibbin, Scott Steele, Ben Meehan
FH James Marshall, Theo Brophy-Clews
CE Johnny Williams, Fergus Mulchrone, Ciaran Hearn, Tom Fowlie
WG Alex Lewington, Aseli Tikoroituma, Topsy Ojo, Ben Ransom
FB Tommy Bell, Greig Tonks

Academy
BR Isaac Curtis-Harris
SH Rory Brand
CE Matt Williams
WG Joe Cokanasiga
FB Tom Parton


Of the players that we still don’t know about, I suspect that Ellis, Court, Sexton and Trayfoot most certainly won’t be here next season. My understanding with Court is that he initially was going to retire but has recently asked for another year, but has been told no as we already have four senior looseheads signed for next season. I like Tom a lot, but I think that is probably the right decision. Reid will be number 1, and DHA has looked very good this season, with Smallbone and a very much improving Elrington backing them up. Koloamatangi I believe may be getting released as he’s spent the majority of his trial period on the sidelines with concussion. Robson is the big one, and sadly my gut feeling is that he is off. I’ve heard nothing, and the tight lippedness of my sources on it worries me as I suspect they’d be singing from the roof tops if he’d re-signed. He was not cheap this year and I suspect that money could well be a factor. Of the academy forwards I hope we extend Jack Cooke’s contract. I was worried about his lack of bulk at the start of the season, but actually he is tough as teak and whilst his carrying in the tight is not brilliant, his defensive workrate is exceptional. I think he is worth developing. Connor Murphy I believe is off to Rotherham and I can’t see Ross Neal being given an extension. Jacob Atkins I hope is kept on, but again I’ve heard nothing.

Of the current U18s, I would expect Josh Basham (LK, N8) and Ben Loader (WG, Fcool smiley to certainly be offered senior academy contracts, with possibly Harry Butler (LK, FL), Ollie Hassell-Collins (WG), Callum Torpey (HK) and Ben Atkins (BR) also joining them.

The glaring place we need a decent signing in the senior squad is at 13 in my opinion. I’m happy with

15. Bell
14. Lewington

12. Williams/Mulchrone
11. Tikoroituma
10. Marshall
9. McKibbin/Meehan

1. Reid
2. Faingaa
3. Franks
4. Hamilton
5. de Chaves
6. Coman
7. Cowan
8. Lomidze

as a starting XV as long as we can sign a good standard, proven Premiership outside centre. It’s not a team that can challenge for top 4 I don’t think, but after Sarries, Wasps and Exeter, the rest of the squads all have their own weaknesses and if we can get off to a decent start then I think we can be competitive in that group from 5th-12th, hopefully avoiding the crippling pressure of being fully in a relegation battle.

Early season fixture list is going to be a big factor I think, as Sale (h), Worcester (a), Gloucester (h) is going to give us a hugely better chance of hitting the ground running than Exeter (a), Saracens (h), Wasps (a) will.


All of this is of course dependent on us successfully negotiating the pray offs!

 
Re: Squad for next season
RodB (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 10:04
Has the Adam Ashley Cooper rumour fizzled out?

 
Re: Squad for next season
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 10:12
Jack Cooke signed a three year academy plus deal, didn't he? Not sure what that involves though and whether it could be upgraded, given the progress he's made.

 
Re: Squad for next season
Gazzle (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 10:52
I thought I saw a rumour on twitter a couple of days ago about Luke McClean joining us from Treviso - via a Saracens poster quoting Neil Fissler, who is normally quite accurate. I don't think I've seen it mentioned on here though.

 
Re: Squad for next season
MattM (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 11:05
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Gazzle
I thought I saw a rumour on twitter a couple of days ago about Luke McClean joining us from Treviso - via a Saracens poster quoting Neil Fissler, who is normally quite accurate. I don't think I've seen it mentioned on here though.

The Italy international? Unless he's very cheap it wouldn't be a signing I'd be pursuing, he's 29 and while he has played a number of positions I've never found him very convincing wherever he pops up on the pitch.



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Re: Squad for next season
SirBurger (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 11:18
Agreed on McLean - not what we need.

 
Re: Squad for next season
Henry Ford (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 16:17
I thought that we needed centres? would BV not be working with him and see him up close? I will go with his judgment if this is true.

 
Re: Squad for next season
Shawshank (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 16:30
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Ozzy3213
Robson is the big one, and sadly my gut feeling is that he is off. I’ve heard nothing, and the tight lippedness of my sources on it worries me as I suspect they’d be singing from the roof tops if he’d re-signed.

Who is Ozzy's 'Deep Throat'...?(Sm100)

 
Re: Squad for next season
CharlieG (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 17:35
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Henry Ford
I thought that we needed centres? would BV not be working with him and see him up close? I will go with his judgment if this is true.

Must admit I had forgotten that connection (obviously not thinking clearly).

And yes, if The Doc judges him to be a good fit, then I would go with him.

 
Re: Squad for next season
kiwi02 (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 17:35
Luke McLean has started the last 8 International tests for Italy at 12, may offer cover for Johnny Williams

 
Re: Squad for next season
Bazzo (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 19:42
Think this tread is a bit premature myself.

We don't know if DuPlesis, Hamilton, Fainga'a, Schatz, Lomidze, Meehan, Reid are even coming here, never mind McLean. I would say with the obvious inside knowledge of the like of Ozzy and Sir B that they would not be far off the mark, but some of these might only be coming if we get promoted and as far as I am aware, we are still a Championship club.

 
Re: Squad for next season
bigbitty (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 19:44
I reckon Luke would be a great signing.

 
Re: Squad for next season
Ozzy3213 (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 20:23
Quote:
Bazzo
Think this tread is a bit premature myself.
We don't know if DuPlesis, Hamilton, Fainga'a, Schatz, Lomidze, Meehan, Reid are even coming here, never mind McLean. I would say with the obvious inside knowledge of the like of Ozzy and Sir B that they would not be far off the mark, but some of these might only be coming if we get promoted and as far as I am aware, we are still a Championship club.

I do make that point in the opening post Bazzo, this is all dependant on how we fare in the play offs.

 
Re: Squad for next season
paddym (IP Logged)
12 April, 2017 21:32
Quote:
Ozzy3213
So here is where we are at in terms of next seasons squad, presuming that my sources are correct regarding all rumoured incomings.
Confirmed leavers
Jason Harris-Wright, Luke Narraway, Darren Allinson

Out of contract, no news
Gerard Ellis, Tom Court, Jerry Sexton, George Robson, Joe Trayfoot, Tevita Koloamatangi,
Matt Kouris, Austin Hay, Jack Cooke, Connor Murphy, Ross Neal, Jacob Atkins

Senior Squad
HK David Paice, Saia Fainga’aa, David Porecki, Todd Gleave
LH Gordon Reid, Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi, Tom Smallbone, Harry Elrington
TH Ben Franks, Petrus du Plessis, Lovejoy Chawatama, Ollie Hoskins, Richard Palframan
LK Seb de Chaves, Jim Hamilton, Josh McNally, Jebb Sinclair, Will Lloyd
FL Mike Coman, Blair Cowan, Max Northcote-Green, Conor Gilsenan, Jake Schatz
N8 Ofisa Treviranus, Lasha Lomidze, Senitiki Nayalo

SH Brendan McKibbin, Scott Steele, Ben Meehan
FH James Marshall, Theo Brophy-Clews
CE Johnny Williams, Fergus Mulchrone, Ciaran Hearn, Tom Fowlie
WG Alex Lewington, Aseli Tikoroituma, Topsy Ojo, Ben Ransom
FB Tommy Bell, Greig Tonks

Academy
BR Isaac Curtis-Harris
SH Rory Brand
CE Matt Williams
WG Joe Cokanasiga
FB Tom Parton


Of the players that we still don’t know about, I suspect that Ellis, Court, Sexton and Trayfoot most certainly won’t be here next season. My understanding with Court is that he initially was going to retire but has recently asked for another year, but has been told no as we already have four senior looseheads signed for next season. I like Tom a lot, but I think that is probably the right decision. Reid will be number 1, and DHA has looked very good this season, with Smallbone and a very much improving Elrington backing them up. Koloamatangi I believe may be getting released as he’s spent the majority of his trial period on the sidelines with concussion. Robson is the big one, and sadly my gut feeling is that he is off. I’ve heard nothing, and the tight lippedness of my sources on it worries me as I suspect they’d be singing from the roof tops if he’d re-signed. He was not cheap this year and I suspect that money could well be a factor. Of the academy forwards I hope we extend Jack Cooke’s contract. I was worried about his lack of bulk at the start of the season, but actually he is tough as teak and whilst his carrying in the tight is not brilliant, his defensive workrate is exceptional. I think he is worth developing. Connor Murphy I believe is off to Rotherham and I can’t see Ross Neal being given an extension. Jacob Atkins I hope is kept on, but again I’ve heard nothing.

Of the current U18s, I would expect Josh Basham (LK, N8) and Ben Loader (WG, Fcool smiley to certainly be offered senior academy contracts, with possibly Harry Butler (LK, FL), Ollie Hassell-Collins (WG), Callum Torpey (HK) and Ben Atkins (BR) also joining them.

The glaring place we need a decent signing in the senior squad is at 13 in my opinion. I’m happy with

15. Bell
14. Lewington

12. Williams/Mulchrone
11. Tikoroituma
10. Marshall
9. McKibbin/Meehan

1. Reid
2. Faingaa
3. Franks
4. Hamilton
5. de Chaves
6. Coman
7. Cowan
8. Lomidze

as a starting XV as long as we can sign a good standard, proven Premiership outside centre. It’s not a team that can challenge for top 4 I don’t think, but after Sarries, Wasps and Exeter, the rest of the squads all have their own weaknesses and if we can get off to a decent start then I think we can be competitive in that group from 5th-12th, hopefully avoiding the crippling pressure of being fully in a relegation battle.

Early season fixture list is going to be a big factor I think, as Sale (h), Worcester (a), Gloucester (h) is going to give us a hugely better chance of hitting the ground running than Exeter (a), Saracens (h), Wasps (a) will.


All of this is of course dependent on us successfully negotiating the pray offs!

Court actually wanted to retire before the start of current season but was told no so I find it unlikely that he has asked for an extension. Jack Cooke and Ollie Hassell-Collins not up to Prem rugby. Cooke can't even make the Wild Geese.

 
Re: Squad for next season
SirBurger (IP Logged)
13 April, 2017 00:28
Quote:
Bazzo
Think this tread is a bit premature myself.
We don't know if DuPlesis, Hamilton, Fainga'a, Schatz, Lomidze, Meehan, Reid are even coming here, never mind McLean. I would say with the obvious inside knowledge of the like of Ozzy and Sir B that they would not be far off the mark, but some of these might only be coming if we get promoted and as far as I am aware, we are still a Championship club.

No inside knowledge my end. And not sure where I claim to have any!

 
Re: Squad for next season
Paul_D (IP Logged)
13 April, 2017 18:42
Quote:
paddym

Court actually wanted to retire before the start of current season but was told no so I find it unlikely that he has asked for an extension. Jack Cooke and Ollie Hassell-Collins not up to Prem rugby. Cooke can't even make the Wild Geese.

But he's good enough to get called up for Ireland U19s international duty.

 
Re: Squad for next season
LI Bohemian (IP Logged)
13 April, 2017 20:21
Quote:
Paul_D
Quote:
paddym

Court actually wanted to retire before the start of current season but was told no so I find it unlikely that he has asked for an extension. Jack Cooke and Ollie Hassell-Collins not up to Prem rugby. Cooke can't even make the Wild Geese.

But he's good enough to get called up for Ireland U19s international duty.

I was told by some Wild Geese stalwart supporters, that LI do not let any of their current squad or academy lads play for them this season, this could be why they do not feature in the WG side.



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Re: Squad for next season
Hugo.LI (IP Logged)
13 April, 2017 20:59
Cooke was very impressive in Ireland under 19's win last week and surely you can't write him off in terms of premiership rugby just yet?! Plenty of time to beef up and could be a very decent player

 
Re: Squad for next season
Aiden1011 (IP Logged)
13 April, 2017 23:44
I think Ollie Hassell-Collins has been injured the whole season

 
Re: Squad for next season
Ozzy3213 (IP Logged)
14 April, 2017 06:44
Quote:
Aiden1011
I think Ollie Hassell-Collins has been injured the whole season

He was excellent last season in our successful u18 team whilst actually being an u17. I would hope that is taken into account when deciding on his future and he's at least put on an academy plus deal and monitored as others have been.


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