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Re: 10 new signings to be announced
norg2072 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:15
Signing #5 COYI

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Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:18
Rugbypass saying Naholo is a done deal. Mafi has fallen through though

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Edit - too slow...



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Re: 10 new signings to be announced
jimbo800 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:30
For the money being rumoured, we could get a very good player for less. Sean o brien is costing less than Mafi was rumoured to be getting.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Lazyboy346 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 20:54
Mafi would have been useful as he covers 4,5,6 and if needed 8. However I think we should be fine on that front if we kept Tuisue. I think the priorities would be securing Coleman's signature (plus another top quality lock to partner him) and two more first choice front rowers to go with Dell

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 21:08
I'd be more than happy with Hoskins at TH still. Not a priority position for front line recruitment imo.

Most important signing for me would actually be a decent Backs/Attack/skills or whatever they are calling it these days coach. Think we were in for Rory Teague, but that didn't work out. Would be shocked if we didn't get one in before the start of the season.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 22:23
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Lazyboy346
Mafi would have been useful as he covers 4,5,6 and if needed 8. However I think we should be fine on that front if we kept Tuisue. I think the priorities would be securing Coleman's signature (plus another top quality lock to partner him) and two more first choice front rowers to go with Dell

Mafi is a top drawer player, one of the best at the French champions. Not seen enough from Tuisue but would be surprised if he can get to the same level. Fingers crossed though. Think Mafiís versatility would have been a real asset for us so fingers crossed we have a couple of other back five forwards in the pipeline.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Lazyboy346 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 22:44
quote Margin_Walker]I'd be more than happy with Hoskins at TH still. Not a priority position for front line recruitment imo.

Most important signing for me would actually be a decent Backs/Attack/skills or whatever they are calling it these days coach. Think we were in for Rory Teague, but that didn't work out. Would be shocked if we didn't get one in before the start of the season.[/quote]

Hoskins has been one of our best players over the last few years and he'd definitely be pushing to start from our current players. I'd just be more comfortable in the Premiership if we had another capable tighthead specialist given Saulo hasn't impressed and Cilliers and Chawatama have (in my experience) performed better this season at loosehead (often alongside Hoskins ironically).

Getting an attack coach is definitely key especially given the quality players we are signing. I was focusing on player signings but we do need to get someone good in to organise how we attack.

[quote SirBurger][quote Lazyboy346]Mafi would have been useful as he covers 4,5,6 and if needed 8. However I think we should be fine on that front if we kept Tuisue. I think the priorities would be securing Coleman's signature (plus another top quality lock to partner him) and two more first choice front rowers to go with Dell[/quote]

Mafi is a top drawer player, one of the best at the French champions. Not seen enough from Tuisue but would be surprised if he can get to the same level. Fingers crossed though. Think Mafiís versatility would have been a real asset for us so fingers crossed we have a couple of other back five forwards in the pipeline.[/quote]

Agree Mafi is probably the better player at this point and Tuisue is quite raw, but he's probably good enough currently to do a decent job and may prove to be a high quality player with a little work. A back row of Tuisue, O'Brien and Ioane looks like it could do some damage.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Smudge21 (IP Logged)
12 February, 2019 23:02
With the mafi deal falling through I think that leaves 3 more spaces available if Mr Facer was telling the truth regarding the 10 new signings (and assuming the likes of coleman and jackson have signed )
Personally want another quality lock, another back row and then not too sure.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
HMRH (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 08:47
Coleman sounds as though thereís work to do on the deal. Mafi is a shame if thatís correct as a back row of Mafi SOB and TJ would be a joy to watch

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Jamiepep1 (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 08:50
quite disappointed if the mafi deal has fallen through as he is a class player. however extremely excited by the fact we are being linked and landing these sorts of players. Well done to all involved.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Bazzo (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 08:54
I wish that we were 15 points clear with three games left before a lot of this conversation was happening.

I still worry (in my nature) about injuries. A back row of Tissue, O'Brien and TJ looks good on paper. Two of them look prone to long lay offs (how many games has TJ started in the championship this year?) and the other is untested. The Premiership is relentless and rugby gets more brutal every year.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 09:42
I think Rogerson can do a job at Premiership level if he has other players to share the carrying burden with. He has been very good for us this season and certainly done more than Tuisue.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 09:50
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SirBurger
I think Rogerson can do a job at Premiership level if he has other players to share the carrying burden with. He has been very good for us this season and certainly done more than Tuisue.

Agree. You have to put a certain amount of faith in players that have stood out this year. There's no reason in my mind why Rogerson couldn't be given first crack at the 8 jersey next year. Would rather see SOB at 7. Have a similar view on Hoskins.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Smudge21 (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 11:49
Our first few games next season we will likely be without quite a few of our new signings so we're going to have to rely on a lot of the guys from this season.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
ExiledChameleon (IP Logged)
13 February, 2019 12:57
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Our first few games next season we will likely be without quite a few of our new signings so we're going to have to rely on a lot of the guys from this season.

And those players should be playing their heart out to retain their position when the internationals do come in.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
paulm1953 (IP Logged)
15 February, 2019 09:46
Our performance in the first six games will probably influence whether we are relegation fodder or middle of the table. That was the case in our two previous relegation seasons in the Premiership. This will be a tough ask.



Come on you Irish

Paul

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
15 February, 2019 09:59
It's definitely a factor and the more players available in pre season the better, as far as the first run of games goes (obligatory assuming we go up caveat)

Thankfully the GP season only starts on the 20 October, which is RWC quarter final weekend. Realistically even players in teams going out in the group stages aren't going to be available for a while though. Anyone that we sign from Super Rugby not involved in the RWC should be good to go though having had an opportunity for a break after SR and a chance to get bedded in properly prior to 20 Oct.

Looking at the likely situations of the signings and rumoured signings:

SOB - Won't see until December
Phipps - Would be surprised if he wasn't in the Wallabies squad, so another late arrival
Rona - Good chance he'll not go to the RWC and be available for the start of the GP
Coleman - Likely to go to the RWC and arrive late
Naholo - There's a chance he won't go to the RWC. Lot's of competition for AB back three places, so could go either way.
Jackson - Full pre season
Goodrick-Clarke - Will add him as this signing seems pretty likely. Full pre season

As an aside, I see the Waratahs are playing Rona on the wing tomorrow after he spent most of last season at 13.



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Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Smudge21 (IP Logged)
15 February, 2019 10:20
Goodrick-Clarke starts at loosehead tonight for Richmond on sky sports for anyone interested. He got rave reviews on another thread, powerful scrummager and good in the loose plus I think he covers both sides of the scrum

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Jamiepep1 (IP Logged)
15 February, 2019 10:22
We should also be getting a few players back from long term injury (assuming they will still be here next year).

Coman
Bell
Danny H-A
Parton

So with the signings to arrive for pre-season (Rona/Jackson/Naholo) should have a pretty competitive squad for that first block of games. Just depends on how far the Prem game has moved on and where other teams have strengthened.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
HMRH (IP Logged)
15 February, 2019 11:21
Letís hope we get teams with a big international contingent early - Saracens as an example

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
ExiledChameleon (IP Logged)
18 February, 2019 21:19
Should Newcastle get relegated I'd love Wilson on loan.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Florida (IP Logged)
18 February, 2019 21:44
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Should Newcastle get relegated I'd love Wilson on loan.

Sod loans, I'd take him on a three year deal

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
ExiledChameleon (IP Logged)
18 February, 2019 23:13
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Should Newcastle get relegated I'd love Wilson on loan.

Sod loans, I'd take him on a three year deal

Probably doesn't have a relegation clause in his contract, but would have to remain at a Prem club to stay in England contention.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Florida (IP Logged)
19 February, 2019 00:19
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Should Newcastle get relegated I'd love Wilson on loan.

Sod loans, I'd take him on a three year deal

Probably doesn't have a relegation clause in his contract, but would have to remain at a Prem club to stay in England contention.

I'd be very surprised if he didn't have a clause.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
jimbo800 (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 10:42
Very interesting article on RugbyPass in regards to New Zealand players not knowing the environment they are signing up when they take the bumper pay deals. This is in the wake of Savea getting crucified by the Toulon owner. They named a load of players who are all leaving at the end of the season, including Nahalo. Further down the article when they talked about players knowing nothing about the clubs they are moving to, they ask ďdoes Nahalo know that the club he has signed for, London Irish arenít even in the premiership at the moment and are likely to struggle once they do get promotedĒ. This journalist seems to be of the opinion that he is definitely coming to us. Itís a good article to read if you get the chance.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
NMB (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 10:55
Thanks for the note - I'll give it a look.

You'd have to hope that he is aware of the position of the club, the challenges we will face if promoted and the potential even that we won't be. The Sean o'Brien article from the other thread spoke of Declans good man management and the culture/environment he is building which attracted him to the club. This would be at odds with signing players who don't understand the club.

But then perhaps we were so happy he was coming we thought the less questions asked the better...

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Blarney (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 10:59
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jimbo800
Very interesting article on RugbyPass in regards to New Zealand players not knowing the environment they are signing up when they take the bumper pay deals. This is in the wake of Savea getting crucified by the Toulon owner. They named a load of players who are all leaving at the end of the season, including Nahalo. Further down the article when they talked about players knowing nothing about the clubs they are moving to, they ask ďdoes Nahalo know that the club he has signed for, London Irish arenít even in the premiership at the moment and are likely to struggle once they do get promotedĒ. This journalist seems to be of the opinion that he is definitely coming to us. Itís a good article to read if you get the chance.

Thatís the excuse Coventry made when he failed to make an impact with us. It beggars belief that professional players with professional agents canít take the time to do even the most basic research about the teams/leagues theyíre joining.

Or you could take the view that the NZ press are doing their bit to try and put their best players off from leaving to Europe with scaremongering. I imagine Savea will now be used regularly as a ďcautionary taleĒ about the perils of leaving the safety of NZ.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Griff (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 11:12

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
GHA (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 11:34
The idea that Naholo doesn't know what league we are currently in (factual, objective), and that is equivalent to the fact Savea didn't know the Toulon owner is a bit nuts (subjective), is ridiculous.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
PV (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 13:15
Reading between the lines, the journo (presumably a New Zealander, is actually concerned about the talent drain. Having potential or past internationals leaving in their 20s and not settling in a different culture isn't news.

What is becoming more apparent is that the CDC and French Top 14 owners are luring talent from NZ more than ever. It's really no different to the continual pilfering by New Zealand from Fiji, Tonga, Samoa etc

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Oldhillbilly (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 13:53
Agree its totally nuts seeing that Glenn Delaney is one of his coaches.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 13:58
Still waiting on rumours for the final two of the 10. Hope we hear something soon!

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Oldhillbilly (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 14:05
I wonder if they are waiting for promotion to be confirmed before signing?

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
norg2072 (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 14:23
In summary:

1) Rona (signed)†
2) Phipps (signed)†
3) Dell (signed)†
4) OíBrien (signed)†
5) Jackson (strong rumour, club still to announce)†
6) Naholo (strong rumour, club still to announce)
7) Mafi (rumour)†
8) Coleman (rumour)†
9) ?
10) ?

Plus:
11) O'Meara (rumour)
12) Goodrick-Clark (rumour)
13) Licata (weak rumour)

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 14:30
Don't think Mafi is happening, but think Licata is.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Lincs-Exile (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 15:33
Also Clark Dermody is another coach where he is.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Smudge21 (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 15:37
Coleman now a done deal to my understanding

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
PV (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 16:12
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Smudge21
Coleman now a done deal to my understanding

Seriously? Very happy if thatís true

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
HMRH (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 16:12
I donít think NZ take as many players from other countries as we like to think but I do think theyíre starting to worry about players leaving for Europe. At the back of the world season idea is that the NZRU ad well as Australia and SA make more money to retain their players.

None of these guys move across the world without speaking to the many kiwis and players from their home teams already in the Premiership and Championship. Any kiwi or Pacific Islander coming here could ask any number of players and Iím sure they do.

At the back of it is a lot of money - SOB wouldnít come here regardless of DK and Les without a good whack to back up the vision.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
norg2072 (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 19:21
Some chat at Hazelwood implies mafi may not be over!

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 19:25
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Some chat at Hazelwood implies mafi may not be over!

That would be great news. Really rate him.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
20 February, 2019 20:03
That would be good if true. His versatility, impact and experience would be really useful

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Heaf (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 15:10
Given where Falcons are after this weekend's results I wonder if Johnny had a relegation clause in his contract and assuming we go up whether we could see him back with us?

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
smithy75 (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 15:23
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Given where Falcons are after this weekend's results I wonder if Johnny had a relegation clause in his contract and assuming we go up whether we could see him back with us?
To be honest really donít think we need him, Hepetema and Stephenson are forming a really good partnership in the centre and we also have Macken and Matt Williams

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Exile_Dave (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 16:19
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Given where Falcons are after this weekend's results I wonder if Johnny had a relegation clause in his contract and assuming we go up whether we could see him back with us?
To be honest really donít think we need him, Hepetema and Stephenson are forming a really good partnership in the centre and we also have Macken and Matt Williams

Totally agree, Johnny can rot in the Championship.



I'd rather be a Paddy then a Quin!!

C'mon the boys in Green!!

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Margin_Walker (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 16:27
Charming.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
TSW22 (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 16:56
Helíll end up at Bath

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Heaf (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 17:01
Probably

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Greenboots (IP Logged)
24 February, 2019 17:08
I'd take Williams back in a heart beat. Fear the route to Bath may have just taken a bit of a detour though before reaching the final destination

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Marbo (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 17:08
I agree with Greenboots above I would love to see Williams back in an Irish shirt. But I recon if Newcastle go down there will be a lot of competition to sign him as his name is a lot more trendy to be talked about then when he played for us.

Pure speculation no information or inside scope but I was think if Manu signs for Racing maybe leicester will try and get Williams to sign for them. As a long term replacement at centre. Would prefer him with us but can't see him playing the Championship he's too good and has real England ambitions or any of the other home nations he qualifies for. I wouldn't rule out him changing league and joining the Pro14.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
GHA (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 17:34
Anyone got any idea what Newcastle fans think of his performances this season?

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
SirBurger (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 17:43
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Anyone got any idea what Newcastle fans think of his performances this season?

Not sure, but the impression I have got is that he has been very good when fit. Same old story of him missing large chunks through injury.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Lazyboy346 (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 17:45
Seems to have been well regarded at Newcastle. He was in good form at the start then got broken again which, along with a few other key injuries, has seen them go from being close to winning key games to being close to cut adrift.

I'd consider having him back but I think we've got a decent squad lined up for next year and we may not have the money/space for him. He's also fighting Hepetema and Stephenson for a similar role and I'm not sure if he would be the first choice of those.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
smithy75 (IP Logged)
25 February, 2019 17:50
speaking to him last season he suffers from vertigo and that's why he misses large chunks of games

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
ExiledChameleon (IP Logged)
08 March, 2019 23:06
Any more rumours? I see that Naholo is still awfully interested in liking posts on how the Brentford stadium is coming along on Instagram.

 
Re: 10 new signings to be announced
Exile_Dave (IP Logged)
16 March, 2019 18:39
[www.rugbypass.com]

Bottom of this article basically says Naholo is a done deal.



I'd rather be a Paddy then a Quin!!

C'mon the boys in Green!!

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