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Wales Salary Cap
DOK (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 09:04
I didn't know Wales announced a salary cap of £3.5 for next season. That's going to cut back their spending on expensive imports.

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Re: Wales Salary Cap
ianco (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 09:21
And expensive Welsh players.

 
Re: Wales Salary Cap
DOK (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 09:37
yes, it's interesting Ireland don't have a salary cap as such. However, they have the rule of only allowing one foreign player in each position 1-15 over all the Irish provinces (So if Munster have a foreign No 15, all the other provinces must have Irish qualified players there).

This is going to make the Heineken Cup next season played on a bit more of a level playing field.

Interesting that Ireland contribute €5 million pa to the TV pot of money, but receive €16 million each year back as it is equally divided up. Effectively France and England financially support rugby in Ireland, Wales and Scotland!

 
Re: Wales Salary Cap
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 09:45
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Interesting that Ireland contribute €5 million pa to the TV pot of money, but receive €16 million each year back as it is equally divided up. Effectively France and England financially support rugby in Ireland, Wales and Scotland!

DOK, that's poor. All the TV contracts are for the competition as a whole and reflect the potential audience. It's not possible to quantify the effect of having Ireland in the 6 Nations or Irish provinces in the HC but their presence definitely contributes to the value of all the TV contracts.



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Re: Wales Salary Cap
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 10:03
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Brown Bottle
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Interesting that Ireland contribute €5 million pa to the TV pot of money, but receive €16 million each year back as it is equally divided up. Effectively France and England financially support rugby in Ireland, Wales and Scotland!

DOK, that's poor. All the TV contracts are for the competition as a whole and reflect the potential audience. It's not possible to quantify the effect of having Ireland in the 6 Nations or Irish provinces in the HC but their presence definitely contributes to the value of all the TV contracts.

So DOK's post was poor because he's made the error of paying attention to facts?

 
Re: Wales Salary Cap
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 10:07
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So DOK's post was poor because he's made the error of paying attention to facts?

No it was poor for the reason I gave. You might not agree with my point but I thought I made it fairly clearly. Obviously not.



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Re: Wales Salary Cap
DOK (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 10:57
No, not clearly. I had to read it a couple of times to really understand it. But it's OK, I've got it now.

I disagree that it's not possible to quantify contribution. I gave you one method. It's crude I'll admit but it is a quantification.

In any case, for the reasons I've given, Ireland are producing "subsidised" teams into both competitions, so their contribution is going to look better because we're paying for it. If they didn't get our money, they wouldn't produce those teams, therefore their contribution would be less, therefore worth less money.

 
Re: Wales Salary Cap
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 11:07
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I had to read it a couple of times to really understand it. But it's OK, I've got it now.

Fair enough, sorry about that!

I'm not sure where you're going with your last paragraph, though. Are you really suggesting that Ireland have a better national team because the English TV contract is worth more money than the Irish one?

Actually, it would be handy if you could supply a link to those figures. Are they for HC or 6N?



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Re: Wales Salary Cap
DOK (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 11:16
Blimey! Asking me to go back over my internet tracks covers the boxing incident, Richard Dawkins ancestor was a slave owner and solving post traumatic stress from Iraq! But I found them...

[www.irishrugby.ie]

 
Re: Wales Salary Cap
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
20 February, 2012 11:33
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DOK
Blimey! Asking me to go back over my internet tracks covers the boxing incident, Richard Dawkins ancestor was a slave owner and solving post traumatic stress from Iraq! But I found them...
[www.irishrugby.ie]

Thanks, DOK! smiling smiley



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Re: Wales Salary Cap
Aladquin (IP Logged)
21 February, 2012 12:31
Well, we're (as in UK Tax payers)are already Subsidising the Irish Government why not their rugby!

Seems fair..............................


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