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Where's Joe Marler?
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I can only assume our success this season is entirely attributable to NEV, JJ and Mo!
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I can only assume our success this season is entirely attributable to NEV, JJ and Mo!
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I can only assume our success this season is entirely attributable to NEV, JJ and Mo!
But we're only top due to the lack of international call ups.
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Foden is a better test 15 than Brown. I like Brown and he performs great at club-level but doesn't have the physicality or pace for internationals.
His cameo the other day proved that for me....he counter-attacked in the way that we've seen him routinely beat a couple of defenders in the AP....but got scragged by the first man, shoved backwards and turned over.
Glad he's back with us, and would have him in the England 15 shirt if Foden was injured, but no way he should be first choice.
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Foden is a better test 15 than Brown. I like Brown and he performs great at club-level but doesn't have the physicality or pace for internationals.
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outside of the Quins-centric rhetoric - the real shock here, is that they've picked Flood,he was useless in the game against Sarries, and pretty rubbish in his 30 min cameo at Exeter - yet walks straight in.
It's not as if we don;t have two lads doing the job already.
I can see why MB does not get the bench slot, never thought JTH was international class.
Manu and Lawes deserve to be there they have played well since there returns.
Parling is decent, but feel the Palmer should have remained.
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Foden is a better test 15 than Brown. I like Brown and he performs great at club-level but doesn't have the physicality or pace for internationals.
Always good to see vintage opinions cherished and maintained by their owners despite more up-to-date and accurate opinions being available.
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You could argue that Flood's brave decision to allow Murphy to take the drop goal won them the game.
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To be fair to Flood, I'm pretty sure that his Captain ordered him aside in this instance.
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Mightn't be a bad one to miss. I can see Stretts being trampled under foot for a start.
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There may be strange selection decisions coming from HQ, and MB is probably not the only Quin who should be in the 22, but it is a great consolation for the Club to have this calibre of players back for the Gloucester game. What would be your preference? - I think I would take 4 points for Quins and lose to Wales if it came to that.
Quote:Only if you were adopting an extreme contrarian view for the sake of it. For a start, Murphy wouldn't have been there to do it in an England international game.
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Ianco, and would Mike Brown have made the 2, 1 on 1 tackles against Rennie and Denton, that if not made would have been a certain try? (and yes all one had to do was look outside, but Foden did as much as he could)
Brown may well have made them, we will never know?.. Foden did make them... you cant say anything against Foden in the Scottish game, he did all he could given what he had.
Against Italy yes 2 mistakes cost us tries... do you drop someone who has been one of the most consistant players in the england team cause of one bad game or 2 mistakes?, id suggest not?
I rate Brown highly and along with Foden are the best Full Backs in the AP and I think fans from all clubs would agree and stopped the Armitage/Goode band wagons,
To say Foden has been slotted into FB to get him in the team is a bit much, he has played Full back consistantly for the last 3 years
with Foden and Brown, I think england are well covered and hopefully it will be a battle for the shirt like Dawson/Braken use to have
Quote:Quinten PoulsenQuote:Only if you were adopting an extreme contrarian view for the sake of it. For a start, Murphy wouldn't have been there to do it in an England international game.
Just preventing an alternative view to the stab in the dark that he bottled it. Your second sentence has no relevance.
Quote:Either that or you really ARE thick.
Quote:Brown BottleQuote:Either that or you really ARE thick.
No need to get personal just because someone disagrees with you.
Quote:Nobody wants to read spats on the board.
Quote:Brown BottleQuote:Nobody wants to read spats on the board.
Stop being rude to people, then.
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Stooperman, I don't want to get in a silly argument but all I did was disagree with you. I didn't get personal.
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There is truth is what you say, and I certainly wouldn't want him trying to take a drop kick from inside his own half. But centre field, just outside the twenty two? Either he wasn't thinking clearly, or he does not have enough confidence in himself.
If the later is true, then he should have waved Murphy up, rather than keeping the forwards going through phase after phase, risking knock ons or turn overs at each breakdown.
Quote:I think that where we, and many others, have been caught out is that we thought that this Six Nations would be a test of possibles for the new team, whereas it turns out that Lancaster pretty much has chosen his team, and had done so before the Six Nations (see photos of Wood representing England as an example of this).
What stings for us us that, beyond training, there is little sense that Lancaster is making good use of our players. It's nice that he took Marler on holiday to Italy and Scotland, but not productive. JTH and Brown's time on the bench has not been productive or taught us much about their potential. Calling up Dickson (K) and Brooker has not been productive.
'Dropping' Foden would give Brown a test for a game to find out who works better, something it looks increasingly like he won't get beyond the training environment. I can't see a Dawson/Bracken rivalry developing if there's only room for Foden at the moment.